For Zeus

[Joni]

Zeus, I hope you are fine.

 

A couple of weeks ago you replied to a post I made about the precision bombing feature bug, saying that you thought it was fixed and that it was going to be fixed in the next update (the post was closed due to fighting and off topic).

 

Its been two or three updates now and nothing got solved, is there any chance we could get to use this amazing feature?

 

 

Thanks in advance.

[sunski34]

Zeus spoke about a delay of 3 weeks in June 2017 and we are still waiting for an update in mid october ;)

 

A basic bug like freeze altitude during 15" when climbing up to 30770 feets very easy to reproduce isn't mark reported, so ...

 

I'm tired to wait ... wait ... wait ...

 

but I still hope that this update will arrive soon now. Hope is life

[Harke]

ed : 2 more weeks

razbam: 3 more weeks

 

:D

[Winterz]

Yeah they really need to sort out all the bugs and missing features..

 

There is the flight model but also:

- Police light

- DEC and VIS radar modes

- airbrakes not visibles in multiplayer

- some symbols on the hud are missing (triangle)

- Can't change hud's brightness

- landing gear invisible when damaged in multiplayer

- systems failures and pre-planned failures not working

- PCA logic

 

Probably more :cry:

[33-DFTC]

Let’s hope they will tackle all of these after the Harrier is released.

 

Who knows ? As the Harrier is already in ED hands perhaps they’re already back at work on the Mirage.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

Probably more :cry:

 

This is a post from early 2016 (!), just about the RDI: you can see what is still missing:

 

Hello folks,

 

As the title says, here I am going to post about the changes that are being made to the RDI radar. My goal is to reach 80% fidelity since 100% is not realistic for obvious reasons.

 

Okay the upcoming changes are:

 

 

• Radar antenna azimuth sector search (used when the selected search azimuth is less than 60º). (enabled)
  
• Radar antenna elevation. (enabled)
  
• Radar antenna stabilization (both roll and pitch). Requires radar antenna elevation. (enabled)
  
• Radar PRF selection.
  
• Target lock limitations. Requires radar PRF selection.
  
• IFF interrogation. Requires radar PRF selection. (enabled)
  
• Super 530D launch limitations. Requires target lock limitations.
  
• Autolock. Requires target lock limitations.
  
• Auto STT. Requires target lock limitations.
  
• Doppler filtering.
  
• Target Lost Memory.
  
• NCTR. Requires PRF selection.
  
• Radar screen realignment and upgrade. Includes symbology and TDC.
  
• Warm-up period. (enabled) Now you have to warm the radar for 2 minutes if you use the Pre Heat option. 3 if you don't.
  
• Built-in test.
  

 

Unfortunately the A/G modes are not possible at this time since they require A/G radar support. They will be incorporated when the A/G radar support becomes available.

 

 

 

Also:

 

- Automatic countermeasures deployment;

- PCM jamming mode;

- dogfight bore-sight mode;

- ...

[DieHard]

Why would anybody purchase new items from this company with their track record of uncompleted items stated above?

[Joni]

because the plane they chose to develop is awesome.

 

If more than one company would develop the same plane, then you will see which one will sell more copies. For sure this will not.

 

We are stuck with the plane we have, there is only one Mirage to buy, so there you have. Plus, there are a lot of fans who will purchase the harrier, just becuase they love the harrier and there will be just one harrier to buy.

[TomCatMucDe]

Zeus is very responsive on the Harrier thread, unfortunately not so about the Mirage. CptSmiley said he will give him feedback about the unhappiness of many customers about the system bugs and incompletion of the Mirage. So far he doesnt seem to care much to be honest.

 

I did a mistake buying an early alpha from Razbam. I learned my lesson.

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

because the plane they chose to develop is awesome.

So is the Mirage: one of the most beautiful jets ever made (in my opinion), with an excellent cockpit-layout, excellent flying characteristics (IRL), it's a prime example of the area-rule, ...

 

Who's to say that when a bug arises that messes up some critical component in the Harrier at some point in the future, it will get proper attention? Or will RAZBAM be "too busy" with the MiG-19P / CH-53E / A-6 / A-7 / F-15E / ... ?

 

For me, company reputation is quite important, and it (will) play(-s) a large role in my current and future decisions on whether or not to buy any specific module. I learned my lesson as well.

[Esac_mirmidon]

The freeze altitude bug is a common thing in DCS not in the Mirage only.

 

Is something ED must fix.

[feefifofum]

I have given them one free pass and prepurchased the Harrier.

 

I do find comments along the lines of "we are too busy working on the Harrier to fix the Mirage" extremely unsettling. If they make good on their word to revisit the Mirage, fix their bugs, and implement the missing features as they have said, no harm done, though I still feel it is poor business practice.

 

If the party line becomes "we're too busy with the Super Tucano to fix the Harrier/Mirage" after the Harrier releases, that will be the last RAZBAM module I ever buy and they can take a place of honor next to VEAO in my mental space.

[kreisch]

I can agree to this but sometimes I get the impression many people forget that money is always required and I bet the means razbam have are much lower than ED.

 

Bought the harrier to support razbam, if they can't change the situation after the money comes in - fine, last module.

But guys, you have to give them a chance and yes, staying on a single product is insane in software development if you do not have a constant cash flow.

You would be surprised how many projects are financed via each other..... At last it seems this way.

 

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[feefifofum]

Sure. But at the end of the day, projects still need to be finished, with their promised feature sets available. We purchase early access to support the developer throughout the process, on good faith that the developer will deliver the promised product.

 

The M-2000C is still for sale, and it stands to reason, is still generating revenue as new players come to DCS, especially when you consider it is the only fully clickable modern fighter at the moment. This isn't a legacy product.

 

Here's hoping for an awesome Harrier early access followed by a finished M-2000C. I'd love nothing more than to keep throwing money at these guys for quality simulations.

[Buckeye]

Why would anybody purchase new items from this company with their track record of uncompleted items stated above?

 

 

 

I didn't buy the Mirage (because I didn't trust RAZBAM, frankly) but I did already preorder the Harrier which I'm kind of regretting now...

 

Hopefully they will get to work on fixing their broken modules rather than just pushing forward to the next project and leaving their older work that people have already paid for unfinished.

 

 

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[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

I get the impression many people forget that money is always required and I bet the means razbam have are much lower than ED.

Oh I do understand, but quite frankly RAZBAM's financial situation is not my problem: I bought something that I still didn't get. That is the hard reality.

If RAZBAM doesn't have enough money to finish a product before pressing to sell a new one, maybe they shouldn't have gone into the flight sim business in the first place?

 

Like said before, it is what early access is for: you buy an unfinished product but you know that your money will help the developers finishing the product.

 

We are 2 years past release of the early-access version, and 6 months past the Mirage being officially out of beta. Patience is all good, but it's been over 6 months that the FM is bugged, and some avionics features have never been implemented.

As a customer, I simply want what I paid for.

 

And the fact that it still is the only full-fidelity 4th generation fighter available in DCS, makes it even worse: the argument "there are plenty more aircraft to fly" doesn't hold: I am not interested in FC3, and current generation VR makes flying older aircraft which heavily depend on your Mk I eyeball not sustainable.

[Teldja]

The Mirage 2000C is the reason why I started to fly in DCS World, a decade after LockOn ! And I am having a lot fun and made new friends that I know IRL now.

I bought the Mirage 2000C as soon as I could in Early Access against my better judgement, because I am a Mirage enthusiast, so that's on me and me alone.

 

I fully understand why someone, who loves the Harrier, would make the decision to buy it as soon as possible. "Been there done that."

And that is fine, as long as you understand the consequences.

 

I have no idea why Razbam did what they did that way.

I would have preferred a different outcome but it is what it is and I prefer to make the best of it, if possible.

 

But we all still have a choice. To keep buying or not for whatever reasons we see fit. Consequences are a two way street.

 

I wish Zeus all the best and hope that he will be able to complete what he has started and much more...

[bart]

I have given them one free pass and prepurchased the Harrier.

 

I do find comments along the lines of "we are too busy working on the Harrier to fix the Mirage" extremely unsettling. If they make good on their word to revisit the Mirage, fix their bugs, and implement the missing features as they have said, no harm done, though I still feel it is poor business practice.

 

If the party line becomes "we're too busy with the Super Tucano to fix the Harrier/Mirage" after the Harrier releases, that will be the last RAZBAM module I ever buy and they can take a place of honor next to VEAO in my mental space.

 

 

 

Agree 100%.

 

 

I've pre purchased the Harrier too mainly as I have a soft spot for the aircraft spending IRL 3+ years working on them. Also wishing to support RAZBAM with the development of the module, but I also have the same concerns as stated above.

 

 

Time will tell how it all pans out.

[Slims]

Thing is harrier is getting released soon and that means the next few months will be focused on the harrier, to fix the ctd`s issues that plane will inevitably have and other game breaking bugs. So i`m guessing that chances are really slim to receive any major mirage fix in the immediate future, and when it comes to implementing missing stuff probably this will never happen.

 

The dev needs money issue is really the biggest nonsense I keep reading on this forum.. EVERYONE needs money, and everyone WANTS money. Can anyone of you, at work, tell your clients: “hey thanks for your money but I need to work on releasing a new product now, i don`t have time to finish your stuff, I`ll come back to you when I have time”? Chances are really high you`ll get sued by the end of the day. Yet here everything is subject to change it does not matter what a developer advertises for pre-order and what it ends up delivering because hey we need to support the devs.

If Razbam could not find ONE hour this year to, post one single time in these threads, and say “here`s the list we`re working on” (regarding systems not yet implemented and stuff we are fixing) and offer a decent timeline, how can anyone believe they will waste time on coding missing stuff !?

 

In the two years that went by Razbam was working on fixing mirage and coding the upcoming harrier, and here is the state the mirage is currently at after 2 years. How can you guys believe that in the next years when they will have mirage and harrier while working on whatever else they have coming that anyone will work on adding stuff for mirage ? Don`t the dev`s need money? So they need to focus on a 3rd module…

 

I have been a DCS client since Flanker in 1996 (I still have all the discs) and I have pre-ordered almost all modules (except for trainers, gazelle, and dora that I skipped) and until now I was never disappointed in the money I spend in supporting what DCS was and what DCS will become. But with this Razbam module, and the way I as a client got treated, I am profoundly disappointed. In my opinion mirage is the weakest product on the store page and the product with the worse development support, and communication does not make up for the current state of this product.

Edited November 8, 2017 by Slims

[Esac_mirmidon]

[blast]

DCS game has a tiny community compared to block buster games (gta5, arma3, COD...). M2000 customers on dcs represents a very small market in the game industry which means not so much incomes for the sellers. And at the end of the day Razbam has to feed a family, pay bills, (pay employees?)...

That's why they need to sell others products just in order to exist.

 

Honestly, the M2000 in its actual state is 90% done. The remaining developments that are listed above are minor issues that can wait until the harrier release.

By the way, how long it takes for the others modules to be 100% finished? the a10, the huey...?

 

I'm sure their next M2000-D would benefit of their experience ^^

[Slims]

Your 90% is very different than mine, I wonder how you got to that percentage..

[blast]

Your 90% is very different than mine, I wonder how you got to that percentage..

you take the sum of all the features that have been done divided by the total features the end product will have. Honestly I don't know if it will be exactly 90% but i wont be surprise it would be even higher.

[Jester986]

I'd like to see the Mirage finished but overall I'm happy with it. It's my go to fighter and it does a good job. I'm fine with the money I spent on it and I preordered the Harrier without concern. There is a point to be made, if a feature was promised there should be progress toward it. But can we stop with the vitriol and trying to bait Devs into a response?

[Oceandar]

Is the Mirage that bad in this current condition ?

 

I'm an A2A guy and just using the Mirage the way it meant to be used (no A2G role for me). Call me ignorant but I must be one of few happy customers in this thread