1.5.8 and 2.2.0 to 2.5 transition Discussion

[sze5003]

I was a software developer back when God was a kid and system RAM was 4 kilobytes. That's why you saw my reference to a batch file. And, yes, I key punched my compiles and the JCL to go with it on my clients' mainframes. But you know Murphy. One day, the job specs said one thing and I misread a detail. I ran my perfectly functioning code on test data and it got signed off. Then, using my misread detail, I ran the code on live data. The misread detail said to update then delete live data. This was a huge multinational corporation and my code deleted a gazillion records in fractions of seconds. Management thought the live run went well. Until....

 

Well, I fixed the mistake and managed to recover all the live data short one working day's stuff. But it taught me a valuable lesson about Murphy and his law.

 

I value DCS so much that I don't trust my ability to play software engineer again. Even on a fresh install, Windows Registry can be a bit overwhelming to someone who rarely looks at it. I tend to stay away from it. Thus, I was asking someone more qualified than me to chance messing with my ability to fly on my machine that is working flawlessly.:)

 

You can try this: But beware I take no responsibility if you mess up your pc. Not sure if I am allowed to post batch files here but you will have to do this:

 

Open notepad and insert this:

 

@echo off

 

ROBOCOPY C:\your\filename\goes\here C:\your\backup\location\goes\here /LOG:backuplog.txt

 

File --> Save as moveDCSFolder.bat

 

Run the file by double clicking. You can test this out using some folders you don't care about moving first.

 

Your file name is going to be the location to the DCS World folder. Your backup location is your new drive. Just create a folder in that new drive first. So for example I would open up my new drive

and create a Program Files(x86) or just Program Files (can't remember if 1.5 installs under 64 bit or not). Then inside the program files create a matching DCS World Folder named exactly like the one you are planning to move.

 

Now to edit the registry. Windows +R type regedit. Click the + sign next to the HKEY_CURRENT_USER, navigate to Software/EagleDynamics/DCS World. Right Click the DCS World folder then choose Export. It will save it as a registry file to a location of your choice.

 

Open that registry file in notepad and change the Drive letter of the hard drive to the new Letter of the new hard drive. Save the file and double click it. It should import it into your registry with the new drive letter value.

 

I dunno what all you have installed in the registry of your PC so I could not script the registry edit portion but this is pretty much the same thing. All you are doing is clicking and saving a file then editing it and putting it back.

 

PLEASE MAKE A RESTORE POINT OR SOME SORT OF BACKUP BEFORE DOING THIS.

Edited January 27, 2018 by sze5003

[TWC_SLAG]

My goodness! I read the news day it was posted, and four days later there are 40 pages asking the same thing basically. Hahaha!

 

Who wants to explain it again? The next person who posts without looking for the answer first gets to buy donuts for everyone - deal!!!

 

First, I hate the word “basically”. It means nothing.

 

Second, there are a lot of pages in this thread because many (me, for instance) aren’t as conversant with computers as some others.

 

Combine that with the Third, in which there are many different ways computers are set up, and we end up with a lot of questions.

 

If you already know what you have to do to get your computer ready for 2.5, stop reading the thread and posting.

 

The next time you add to the thread, YOU owe all of us donuts. :)

Edited January 28, 2018 by TWC_SLAG
edit

[=Mac=]

You can try this: ...

 

Thanks, sze5003. If you don't hear from me in a couple days, I've accidently fried my cpu, set fire to the apartment, been arrested for arson, tried convicted and sent to Guantanamo.

 

Seriously, thanks for the help.

 

You KNOW this 2.5 is going to be awesome!

[Balzarog]

?... I ran my perfectly functioning code on test data and it got signed off. Then, using my misread detail, I ran the code on live data. The misread detail said to update then delete live data. This was a huge multinational corporation and my code deleted a gazillion records in fractions of seconds .....

 

Oh, wow! Did you write code for the FBI and the IRS?:thumbup:

[sze5003]

Thanks, sze5003. If you don't hear from me in a couple days, I've accidently fried my cpu, set fire to the apartment, been arrested for arson, tried convicted and sent to Guantanamo.

 

Seriously, thanks for the help.

 

You KNOW this 2.5 is going to be awesome!

Ah I think you can handle it, don't worry. You're welcome if it helps you out. I sure hope 2.5 is going to be awesome in VR. Most importantly I hope the campaign bugs are sorted out.

 

I need to do the same procedure as I just got a 1tb Evo SSD and cloned by original hardrive. Now that old SSD is going to be full 960gb of emptiness and I want 2.5 on there. Right now I'm split between 2 ssd's with 1.5 and 2.0.

 

I'll move 1.5 Monday and that way when 1.5 updates to 2.5 beta it will take some of those 2.0 files with it to the new drive.

 

Also, I'd wait until the 31st after you've updated to 2.5 beta to delete the dcs folder from your old drive as a precaution.

[Jhuss96]

Does this mean going into the future DCS will retain a 2.5 open beta & 2.5 release? Or is this all going to end up getting merged eventually to just one 2.5? My hope is the latter.

 

It's a hassle having two installs, it's also a hassle waiting for early access modules to be put on the release version weeks after the module's release date.

[sze5003]

Am I good to wait if I only have 2.2.0 installed at this time?

No you need 1.5.8 beta installed to get 2.5 beta on the 31st. 2.2 will be upgraded to it a week later or so.

[JUICE-AWG]

On my SSD 1.5.8 and 2.2 is 106GB, I have 40GB left on my SSD.

I also have +500GGB on my mechanical HD.

 

1: I imagine 40GB free space on my SSD is to small to install 2.5 ?

2: What are my options to install 2.5 on my SSD ? Delete DCS & do a clean install ?

 

Careful, I was doing an update on a smaller SSD with lots of room on it, and the torrent files locked up the drive after I received a message that the disk was full. The total space for the completed update turned out to be much less than the total capacity of the drive, but the update process needed extra space for file extraction...I now use a dedicated 240GB SSD for DCS.:pilotfly:

[JUICE-AWG]

Open Alpha 2.2.0: this branch is no more supported. If user have only 2.2.0 Open Alpha, we will suggest to download 2.5 installer - it will install 2.5 release and remove 2.2.0 Open Alpha.

 

My SSD only has 20GB free.......

Essential: How much free disk space do I need?

 

Like I pointed out before, an update could easily lock up your drive due to insufficient swap file space.

[JUICE-AWG]

I suggest to uninstall 2.2.0 (in order to free enough space on SSD) and then make fresh installation 2.5 on SSD (it will take some files from 1.5). Terrain(s) should be installed later as usual - from Module Manager.

 

If I am only using 2.2 and don't have 1.5 installed, what is my best approach from here?

[JUICE-AWG]

On a related matter, we plan to move 2.5 to Steam two weeks after the e-Shop Open Beta launch.

 

Thanks

 

I like that phrase "Two Weeks" but this time I think it means more like 2 weeks rather than a mythical 2-weeks we have been hearing about for a couple of years now...I call it "The Two Weeks in ED Time" effect.

 

Thanks Wags!:pilotfly:

Edited January 29, 2018 by =JUICE=

[bolek]

Does this mean going into the future DCS will retain a 2.5 open beta & 2.5 release? Or is this all going to end up getting merged eventually to just one 2.5? My hope is the latter.

 

It's a hassle having two installs, it's also a hassle waiting for early access modules to be put on the release version weeks after the module's release date.

 

There will still be 2.5 release and 2.5 open beta.

 

But I don't understand your problem. If you always just want to run the latest then keep 2.5 open beta only and don't even bother with 2.5 release.

[JUICE-AWG]

I have a 1 TB SSD (Samsung 850 Pro) specially reserved for DCS. :smartass:

 

So besides DCS 1.5.8 Final Release and 2.2.x Open Alpha I just started installing DCS 1.5.8 Open Beta. :joystick:

 

I hope that move will still let me update to the DCS 2.5 Open Beta version by the end of January. :thumbup:

 

1TB is a lot of space for just DCS and it's Modules!:pilotfly:

[Art-J]

So the files from the 2.5 beta will not be copied for the 2.5 stable version of the game. Thats confusing. I think i have to move 2.2 to another location then because i dont have enough SSD space left.

 

Anyway, thank you!

 

How the hell did you come up with that conclusion after a reply about something completely different? Now THAT's confusing :).

 

Sure the OB files will be copied to stable, as they always have been, whatever the version. That's exactly why you won't need 2.2 after the "first stage" anymore and it will be deleted.

[TaFnIz]

How the hell did you come up with that conclusion after a reply about something completely different? Now THAT's confusing :).

 

Sure the OB files will be copied to stable, as they always have been, whatever the version. That's exactly why you won't need 2.2 after the "first stage" anymore and it will be deleted.

 

My question was if i have to keep 2.2 alpha when i have the 2.5 beta already installed. The answer was that i should keep 2.2 files so DCS can copy files from that install. Thats why i was confused because 2.5 beta already has the files that 2.2 alpha has.

 

My original question:

Hey guys.

 

I converted my 1.5 stable to 1.5 beta. I would like to know if i have to rename /DCS World to /DCS World OpenBeta and do the same within the registry and saved gamefolder?

 

I also like to know if after 2.5 beta is out and installed, do i need to keep 2.2 OpenAlpha or will the installer copy the needed files from the 2.5 beta version of the game for the stable version?

 

This was the answer i got:

No, the name of the directories doesn't matter. You could have named them "Candy Coated Apple Simulator" when you installed it. It's irrelevant.

 

As for 2.2 wait until after the patch so it can copy the needed files over without downloading them again. After that it should delete it automatically. There won't BE a 2.2 after you're done.

 

So maybe its a language barrier but i thought i was clear about what i wanted to know. Sorry for that.

 

So i dont need to keep 2.2 alpha after i installed the 2.5 beta. Thats not confusing anymore and i have the answer i was looking for. Thank you! :)

[Horns]

The image in the OP has changed as of Jan 26th, and it now indicates that 2.2 will get updated to 2.5 stable instead of reaching EOL. I got caught out by this and I think there is still some confusion, so I'll just leave this here.

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=176690&d=1516860954

Edited January 28, 2018 by Horns
Fixed ambiguous word choice

[Rudel_chw]

Does this mean going into the future DCS will retain a 2.5 open beta & 2.5 release? ... It's a hassle having two installs ...

 

I view it as an option, rather than a hassle ... most games have private beta versions that only beta testers get to use ... ED is providing the beta to everyone who WANTS it

 

Of course the new features and patches are tried out on the beta first, thats what its for ... I really cant understant the people that complains about this.

[klem]

I think the thread should have been locked before it went around in circles...

 

Absolutely.

 

Add disc space requirements to the OP, strip the rest off to a discussion thread and lock this one. All these pages ware making it sound more complicated than it is.

[Django]

I want to end up with 1.5.8 Final and 2.5 Release. If I wait for Stage 2 am I right in assuming that:

1) Purchased modules will appear in both versions?

2) With both versions installed, when I add another module in the future, it does not matter what version I activate it in I will be able to use it in both (assuming the module is compatible with both)?

[Horns]

I want to end up with 1.5.8 Final and 2.5 Release. If I wait for Stage 2 am I right in assuming that:

1) Purchased modules will appear in both versions?

2) With both versions installed, when I add another module in the future, it does not matter what version I activate it in I will be able to use it in both (assuming the module is compatible with both)?

 

That is my understanding. I know personally that’s how it works currently, I haven’t seen mention of a change and I can’t see why they would change the current system, but I’m not ED so I don’t *know*.

[sc_neo]

Whats your best guess: concerning cummunity made missions for 2.2 NTTR and those working in 1.5.8 Caucasus; is it save to assume that the ones for 2.2 NTTR will work properly in 2.5 NTTR since the map has not changed from 2.2 to 2.5? Thus it should be save to delete 2.2 NTTR after 2.5 is completely installed?

 

I reckon coummunity made missions for Caucasus 1.5.8 won't necessarily work in Caucasus 2.5 unless they are simple A2A ones. Thus it might be a good idea to keep 1.5.8 around until i have either finished them or they have been ported by the respective designer?

[sze5003]

Whats your best guess: concerning cummunity made missions for 2.2 NTTR and those working in 1.5.8 Caucasus; is it save to assume that the ones for 2.2 NTTR will work properly in 2.5 NTTR since the map has not changed from 2.2 to 2.5? Thus it should be save to delete 2.2 NTTR after 2.5 is completely installed?

 

I reckon coummunity made missions for Caucasus 1.5.8 won't necessarily work in Caucasus 2.5 unless they are simple A2A ones. Thus it might be a good idea to keep 1.5.8 around until i have either finished them or they have been ported by the respective designer?

The 2.2 missions should be alright but the 1.5.8 ones will most likely need tweaked. The devs of several campaigns have had to port their misisons over and there are still chances there will be some bugs at first..that I can be sure of after using dcs for so long lol.

[BIGNEWY]

thread reopend,

 

moved to new location as discussion thread and made a copy of the first post for community and locked.

Edited January 29, 2018 by BIGNEWY

[dburne]

Ok I think I am now ready.

I had all three versions on my gaming SSD, my E: Drive, but no room for 2.5. So I uninstalled 1.5 Stable Release.

I copied my Open Alpha install to my H: Drive, a HDD. I changed the registry to reflect DCSW 2 Open Alpha in H: drive path. I then delete Open Alpha from my E: SSD.

 

So now all I have is 1.5 Open Beta on my E: SSD, with room to spare now for upgrading it to 2.5. Open Beta. Does not really bother me to run on the Beta branch. Hopefully it will now copy any needed files from Open Alpha from the HDD drive it now rests on. If somehow it doesn't, well I guess a complete new install never hurts either lol.

[QuiGon]

Ok I think I am now ready.

I had all three versions on my gaming SSD, my E: Drive, but no room for 2.5. So I uninstalled 1.5 Stable Release.

I copied my Open Alpha install to my H: Drive, a HDD. I changed the registry to reflect DCSW 2 Open Alpha in H: drive path. I then delete Open Alpha from my E: SSD.

 

So now all I have is 1.5 Open Beta on my E: SSD, with room to spare now for upgrading it to 2.5. Open Beta. Does not really bother me to run on the Beta branch. Hopefully it will now copy any needed files from Open Alpha from the HDD drive it now rests on. If somehow it doesn't, well I guess a complete new install never hurts either lol.

Seems like you did everything right and it actually makes sense what you did there :thumbup: