Force IPD options affects game menu in a strange way

[some1]

After checking this option, game menus start to render in a different location for left and right eye, happens even if the forced IPD value is the same as the value set in hardware.

[M1Combat]

I get this issue as well...

 

I'm using a Vive and apparently it works correctly with an Oculus.

[Gladman]

I can confirm it works very well in the Rift.

[Ziptie]

I can confirm it works very well in the Rift.

 

what did you set yours at, if i can ask?

[Gladman]

what did you set yours at, if i can ask?

 

Currently at 90. Higher than that and things get small so you feel like a giant in a Shriners car. I had it at 80 but got better clarity at 90. I haven't tried yet but I'm sure the best setting is somewhere in the middle.

Note that I do have a far sighted prescription so your mileage may vary.

[FragBum]

I think there are 2 things here..

 

1) For me IPD makes the depth perception look better in Rift. Awesome. :thumbup:

 

2) The in game menu and other dialog screens wonder around with head movement with IPD enabled.

 

WRT 2, This is especially so for the text chat displayed when on a server and makes it slightly more challenging to read the chat text when flying low around trees and buildings etc. :D

[some1]

Yes, my post is about issue #2, IPD setting itself works as expected in the 3D world.

[mytai01]

For those that don't understand what IPD is:

 

Pupillary distance (PD) or interpupillary distance (IPD) is the distance measured in millimeters between the centers of the pupils of the eyes. You should be able to put the distance for your eyes and get good results. Your Eye Care Professional should be able to give you accurate information...See an Eye Doctor and tell him to measure your IPD for DCS World! My PD is 67...

Edited February 4, 2018 by mytai01

[Nooch]

It's pretty annoying for me too. I have a Rift and even though I don't get the left / right eye issue, the menu is displayed extremely close to my face with "force ipd" enabled and at the proper setting (I have a correct measurement of my IPD). It just adds unnecessary eye strain when browsing menus so I decided to keep it off.

[PhilSkyfire]

It's pretty annoying for me too. I have a Rift and even though I don't get the left / right eye issue, the menu is displayed extremely close to my face with "force ipd" enabled and at the proper setting (I have a correct measurement of my IPD). It just adds unnecessary eye strain when browsing menus so I decided to keep it off.

 

Same for me. I can live with the stock setting (IPD off) but would like to check it with the proper IPD. But as Axelerator mentiones, the menu behavior is quite straining, so it's no option for me currently.

[Rocky49]

I would assume you set the IPD to what you have set physically on your Rift.

[Tinkickef]

Yes it sets to Rift setting. I personally have that setting off. Cannot see any reason for it as Rift is better without it.

My IPD setting in Rift is 64mm, so the poster with 90mm must look like Stuey from family guy, or more likely, misunderstood what the IPD setting is for.

Edited February 6, 2018 by Tinkickef

[TonyZ]

Once again because of the confusing and erroneous naming by

ED users are not understanding what IPD is and that there are two types. As stated earlier IPD is Inter Pupillary Distance and is the physical measurement between the pupils of the users eyes when looking directly forward. This number is what gets set in the RIFT or VIVE when setting the IPD for the headset lens spacing. This is completely unrelated to the setting in the DCS settings menu called IPD which is actually nothing of the sort and should be called World Scale or Virtual eye camera spacing. That setting is to determine the distance between the virtual eye positions in the VR world and affects how the scale of objects appear in the "WORLD" of DCS. Smaller numbers make all the objects and cockpits seem larger and larger numbers make everything seem smaller. DO NOT SET THIS NUMBER TO YOUR PHYSICAL IPD AS MEASURED ON YOUR FACE!! They are two COMPLETLY different thing and ED really needs to rename that setting to avoid this kind of confusion in future.

Edited February 6, 2018 by TonyZ

[Rocky49]

Well it appears that I was mistaken about the function of this :( Sorry for the error.

[maducks]

Thank you SO much for explaining this! All these DCS, CPU/GPU and VR acronyms are making my learning curve really steep :( There should be a dictionary.

Edited February 12, 2018 by maducks

[Thick8]

Once again because of the confusing and erroneous naming by

ED users are not understanding what IPD is and that there are two types. As stated earlier IPD is Inter Pupillary Distance and is the physical measurement between the pupils of the users eyes when looking directly forward. This number is what gets set in the RIFT or VIVE when setting the IPD for the headset lens spacing. This is completely unrelated to the setting in the DCS settings menu called IPD which is actually nothing of the sort and should be called World Scale or Virtual eye camera spacing. That setting is to determine the distance between the virtual eye positions in the VR world and affects how the scale of objects appear in the "WORLD" of DCS. Smaller numbers make all the objects and cockpits seem larger and larger numbers make everything seem smaller. DO NOT SET THIS NUMBER TO YOUR PHYSICAL IPD AS MEASURED ON YOUR FACE!! They are two COMPLETLY different thing and ED really needs to rename that setting to avoid this kind of confusion in future.

 

Yes it changes world scale based on viewpoint separation. My viewpoint separation (IPD) is 71. I set my Odyssey to 71. Then I used a clear ruler to measure the ADI. I kept lifting the headset to match the ruler distance from my VR viewpoint, closing one eye and then the other to make sure I got an accurate measurement. what I found was that by matching the in game IPD to the headset’s physical adjustment that the gauges were all the correct sizes.

Try it. even if it the matching numbers is just a fluke for my IPD you can still make the cockpit real life size. Then you can set your i game eye point as needed depending on you HMDs resolution.

[nicka117]

I would love to play around with world scale a little bit but i simply cant because the gui and in game text goes bonkers and gives me a headache. This cant be how it was intended to function.

[obious]

Was there ever a fix for this? I’ve got the same problem and the game is unplayable

[nicka117]

Seems to work fine for me now, but i ended up liking the default scale better anyway, so....

[TAW_Impalor]

Was too put off by weird menu parallax for a while, but the latest updates seem to fix it. By trying a few values stopped at 56 - the cockpits and pilots' limbs look up to scale now.

[TOViper]

Once again because of the confusing and erroneous naming by

ED users are not understanding what IPD is and that there are two types. As stated earlier IPD is Inter Pupillary Distance and is the physical measurement between the pupils of the users eyes when looking directly forward. This number is what gets set in the RIFT or VIVE when setting the IPD for the headset lens spacing. This is completely unrelated to the setting in the DCS settings menu called IPD which is actually nothing of the sort and should be called World Scale or Virtual eye camera spacing. That setting is to determine the distance between the virtual eye positions in the VR world and affects how the scale of objects appear in the "WORLD" of DCS. Smaller numbers make all the objects and cockpits seem larger and larger numbers make everything seem smaller. DO NOT SET THIS NUMBER TO YOUR PHYSICAL IPD AS MEASURED ON YOUR FACE!! They are two COMPLETLY different thing and ED really needs to rename that setting to avoid this kind of confusion in future.

 

Thought this for a longer time, but wasn't able to summarize it in this way.

Thanks for the clarification, I think this will help a few guys.

Funny experimenting with lower numbers. With 30 I think I am sitting in the roof of a house, really funny!!

 

I think your request is worth sending it to ED. IMHO they should change the wording!