CarbonFox Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 People come here asking and wishing for the F-14D because of a modern HUD... aren't the F-15 and F/A-18 HUD's modern enough ? The modern HUD wasn't the only perk the F-14D had. The DFCS and the APG-71 plus enhanced cockpit are bigger deals in my view along with the ability to deploy the JDAM. F/A-18C; A-10C; F-14B; Mirage 2000C; A-4E; F-16C; Flaming Cliffs 3
Extranajero Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 Honestly, if someone released a Sopwith Camel five seconds after there'd be a bunch of people asking for it to be fitted with a couple of MFD's a HUD and smart munitions :D --------------------------------------------------------- PC specs:- Intel 386DX, 2mb memory, onboard graphics, 14" 640x480 monitor Modules owned:- Bachem Natter, Cessna 150, Project Pluto, Sopwith Snipe
Cytarabine Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 Honestly, if someone released a Sopwith Camel five seconds after there'd be a bunch of people asking for it to be fitted with a couple of MFD's a HUD and smart munitions :D Surely you are aware of the Camel-D variant which could mount 4 AIM-120 AMRAAMs and wingtip AIM-9X Sidewinders?
Voyager Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 Surely you are aware of the Camel-D variant which could mount 4 AIM-120 AMRAAMs and wingtip AIM-9X Sidewinders? Meh, need the Snipe with the optional dual over wing guns and wing slung Lewis MGs, revi gunsight and optional super charger and arrest or gear for early carrier operations.
Top Jockey Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 But the F-15 And F/A-18 HUD's aren't on an F-14. Ok that's a valid point. It's just that for me, much of the F-14's charisma is preciselly its "old" HUD symbology mixed with its outstanding combat capabilities (fighter/interceptor). Jets Helis Maps FC 3 JA 37 Ka-50 Caucasus F-14 A/B MiG-23 Mi-8 MTV2 Nevada F-16 C MiG-29 F/A-18 C Mirage III E MiG-21 bis Mirage 2000 C i7-4790 K , 16 GB DDR3 , GTX 1660 Ti 6GB , Samsung 860 QVO 1TB
Banzaiib Posted June 14, 2019 Posted June 14, 2019 Honestly, if someone released a Sopwith Camel five seconds after there'd be a bunch of people asking for it to be fitted with a couple of MFD's a HUD and smart munitions :D LOL... Now that's funny and true
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turkeydriver Posted July 3, 2019 Posted July 3, 2019 Looks factory fresh :thumbup::thumbup: It is- those are VF-124 jets in Miramar! VF-2 Bounty Hunters https://www.csg-1.com/ DCS F-14 Pilot/RIO Discord: https://discord.gg/6bbthxk
nthere Posted July 4, 2019 Posted July 4, 2019 To be honest,i hate 14b's awkward and useless HUD, i want a more easy to learn and fly Tomcat,but on the other hand, HB may lack many necesscery data to make sure some module I be willing to pay not more than 150 $ from my emotion,in fact, i think due to A+ and B,D will be set at 80$. I advise HB could attempt to crowdfunding for D,hhh.
Dudikoff Posted July 4, 2019 Posted July 4, 2019 I wouldn't mind an early D without the PTID later scavenged from the retired A's and B's if they have data on those MFD's. i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
WichitaMODEX Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 A -14D would be fantastic... I always think that if the F-14 could have survived 10 more years, we would be seeing a resurgence just like we are with the F-15 and F/A-18 Super Hornet, and to a different extent, the F-16.
viper2097 Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Altough the D would be a cool addition, I like to stay at the A and B. Those are just real Tomcats and the plane as it is. The Super Tomcats feel kinda sort of Frankenstein... No Sir, i don't neet that Sparrohawk HUD, I'm fine with a aircraft for real men. Steam user - Youtube I am for quality over quantity in DCS modules
Eaglewings Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Altough the D would be a cool addition, I like to stay at the A and B. Those are just real Tomcats and the plane as it is. The Super Tomcats feel kinda sort of Frankenstein... No Sir, i don't neet that Sparrohawk HUD, I'm fine with a aircraft for real men.Just curious. I would like to understand this real men thingy about the F-14 A and B. If the A and B were that super and macho, why upgrade to the D before phasing it out. I like the F-14B external design and the fame that surrounds it but the interior did not cut it for me. Maybe the depth of weathering by Heatblur contributed. I love modern/digital avionic suite so a D would be good. The F-14B occasionally go out for missions this days as she seats in my hangar. A lot to learn on the Hornet as new features comes on board so hoping to get the hang of the F-14B sometime later. Just me though. Windows 10 Pro 64bit|Ryzen 5600 @3.8Ghz|EVGA RTX 3070 XC3 Ultra|Corair vengence 32G DDR4 @3200mhz|MSI B550|Thrustmaster Flightstick| Virpil CM3 Throttle| Thrustmaster TFRP Rudder Pedal /Samsung Odyssey Plus Headset
obious Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Just curious. I would like to understand this real men thingy about the F-14 A and B. If the A and B were that super and macho, why upgrade to the D before phasing it out. I like the F-14B external design and the fame that surrounds it but the interior did not cut it for me. Maybe the depth of weathering by Heatblur contributed. I love modern/digital avionic suite so a D would be good. The F-14B occasionally go out for missions this days as she seats in my hangar. A lot to learn on the Hornet as new features comes on board so hoping to get the hang of the F-14B sometime later. Just me though. Completely agree. I think that HB did a fantastic job at recreating the interior of the F14 B, but that green ddi with the 'poop blocks' really subtracts from the immersion when flying in VR. I get that it looks that way back in the 1980s/90s but recreating them in DCS just makes me feel that I'm staring at a toy Intel 12900k @ 5.2Ghz, RTX 4090, Samsung 1TB NVME, Thrustmaster Warthog & F-18 stick, Pendular Rudder Pedals - Quest Pro AV8B N/A UFC Build Log AV8B N/A PCBs for sale
Raven (Elysian Angel) Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 I'm fine with a aircraft for real men. Or "real women", whatever those things even mean. In any case, I prefer the more old-school handling as well: FBW jets just feel too sterile and get boring pretty quickly. Spoiler Ryzen 7 9800X3D | 96GB G.Skill Ripjaws M5 Neo DDR5-6000 | Asus ProArt RTX 4080 Super | ASUS ROG Strix X870E-E GAMING | Samsung 990Pro 2TB + 990Pro 4TB NMVe | VR: Varjo Aero VPC MT-50CM2 grip on VPForce Rhino with Z-curve extension | VPC CM3 throttle | VPC CP2 + 3 | FSSB R3L | VPC Rotor TCS Plus base with SharKa-50 grip | Everything mounted on Monstertech MFC-1 | VPC R1-Falcon pedals with damper | Pro Flight Trainer Puma OpenXR | PD 1.0 | 100% render resolution | DCS graphics settings Win11 Pro 24H2 - VBS/HAGS/Game Mode ON
Blinde Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 FBW is just more agile and versatile. Deal with it. All the fighter pilots are real men :)
viper2097 Posted July 5, 2019 Posted July 5, 2019 Just curious. I would like to understand this real men thingy about the F-14 A and B. If the A and B were that super and macho, why upgrade to the D before phasing it out. Nothing to do with macho, I just like things more where you have to work and need skills. Let you wife land the F18, mine is not familiar with flying and did it with the first try. Do that again with the F14, I still see online a lot of people crashing with it during approach. I just like the challenge and when it is more mechanical. Feels more real and not so sterile. Probably the same why I prefer older cars instead of newer ones... Steam user - Youtube I am for quality over quantity in DCS modules
vadupleix Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Completely agree. I think that HB did a fantastic job at recreating the interior of the F14 B, but that green ddi with the 'poop blocks' really subtracts from the immersion when flying in VR. I get that it looks that way back in the 1980s/90s but recreating them in DCS just makes me feel that I'm staring at a toy Maybe you should take a look at A6’s version of poop block, I literally laughed out at it when I first saw it.
Phantom88 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 Did any of the roles/responsibilities change between The Rio and Pilot with the upgraded Avionics and Sensors in The F-14D anyone know? Patrick
Dudikoff Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 (edited) Nothing to do with macho, I just like things more where you have to work and need skills. Let you wife land the F18, mine is not familiar with flying and did it with the first try. Do that again with the F14, I still see online a lot of people crashing with it during approach. That's interesting since I find it much easier to land the Tomcat since you're in control all the time rather than that assisted PA mode in Hornet. The only times I had issues landing the Tomcat was when they messed up the drag or thrust levels in some patch so it was underpowered at landing so it took me quite some time to adjust. I don't see what the FBW discussion has to do with the F-14D, though. It only got the DFCS later on together with the other variants. I personally would love to see the F-14D as well which makes the Tomcat even better with HUD and MFD's and a digitalized radar. It's a pretty cool insight in what could have been. Edited July 6, 2019 by Dudikoff i386DX40@42 MHz w/i387 CP, 4 MB RAM (8*512 kB), Trident 8900C 1 MB w/16-bit RAMDAC ISA, Quantum 340 MB UDMA33, SB 16, DOS 6.22 w/QEMM + Win3.11CE, Quickshot 1btn 2axis, Numpad as hat. 2 FPH on a good day, 1 FPH avg. DISCLAIMER: My posts are still absolutely useless. Just finding excuses not to learn the F-14 (HB's Swansong?). Annoyed by my posts? Please consider donating. Once the target sum is reached, I'll be off to somewhere nice I promise not to post from. I'd buy that for a dollar!
viper2097 Posted July 6, 2019 Posted July 6, 2019 It has nothing to do with FBW according the D. For me, the HUD and the MFDs from the D just don't belong into a Tomcat... Steam user - Youtube I am for quality over quantity in DCS modules
TacoGrease Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 So HB has no intention of making the D at this point...or? 2080Ti FTW3 Ultra - G.Skill RJ 32GB (16x2) DDR4 3200 - Ryzen 2700X 4.2Ghz OC - Corsair H100i Pro - Samsung 970 EVO M.2 2TB - TMW HOTAS w Delta Sim - F/A-18C grip - 10cm Sahaj - TrackIR 5 Pro - Rift CV1 - MFG CWind - BuddyFox UFC - DSD RK II - Cougar MFDs w/ LCDs - Foxx Mounts - VPC MongoosT-50CM base - Maps: NTTR, Persian Gulf, Normandy - Modules: FC3, F-14A/B, F/A-18C, AV-8B, A-10C, F-16C, F-86, KA-50, P-51D, WWII assets, and [insert campaign name] Dreaming of the F-15E / F-14D / Rhino
Jester2138 Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 It's just that for me, much of the F-14's charisma is preciselly its "old" HUD symbology mixed with its outstanding combat capabilities (fighter/interceptor). Agreed. HUDs and MFDs are boring to me. Makes me feel like I'm playing a computer on my computer.
CarbonFox Posted July 7, 2019 Posted July 7, 2019 The ultimate version of the Tomcat plus the AIM-7P would be very welcome additions. It has nothing to do with FBW according the D. For me, the HUD and the MFDs from the D just don't belong into a Tomcat... AMRAAMs don't belong on the F-4 Phantom, yet over time it (the F-4F) was upgraded to employ them. F/A-18C; A-10C; F-14B; Mirage 2000C; A-4E; F-16C; Flaming Cliffs 3
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