imacken Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 Sorry if this has been asked before, but how are keyboard commands input when using VR? Obviously, most are on HOTAS, but not everything is. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
gorzasty Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 In my cv1 I can see through the hole near my nose ;) Wysłane z mojego SM-G935F przy użyciu Tapatalka PC: i7 13700k, 64GB RAM 3200MHz DDR4, SSD M.2 Drives, RTX 4090, VR: Quest 3. VPC MongoosT-50CM2 Grip, VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, crosswinds rudder pedals, VPC panel CP3, WinWing PTO2
epolta Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 Also Voiceattack (like for external views, VR Re-center) and the excellent Vaicom for even more ATC/Wingman commands. A button box will add to your HOTAS capabilities and different switches can be learned by touch
Mango Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 Learn to touch type. ;) Seriously, that has been a huge advantage for me when using the Rift or playing in a dark room.
BeastyBaiter Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 Touch typing as said. Only keys I ever hit are F1, F2, F10 and G though. Everything else is on the X-55 or clicked with mouse. System specs: i5-10600k (4.9 GHz), RX 6950XT, 32GB DDR4 3200, NVMe SSD, Reverb G2, WinWing Super Libra/Taurus, CH Pro Pedals.
spike2450 Posted May 24, 2018 Posted May 24, 2018 everything on Hotas or voiceattack even Escape and spacebar etc all on Voiceattack.
NineGzuz Posted May 27, 2018 Posted May 27, 2018 Brail keyboard? What would be nice is if you could put a bar code or glyph or sensor on the keyboard so that you can see it in vr space
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 I use mainly voice attack too, and a G13 I got one too, I wonder what commands you have binded. CDU? UFC? I may need some ideas :thumbup: i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | Orion 2 throttle base w/ Viper & Hornet grips| VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 2x TM MFDs & 1x WW DDI | 2x Bass shakers | SIMple SIMpit chair | WW TakeOff panel | Andre JetSeat | WW Hornet UFC | WW Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle - Phantom - Mirage F1 - Afghanistan - Irak
lucky-hendrix Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 I only need to hit ESC, f1, f2. I mapped everything else to horas, and a small button box I made. For all the rest, my mic switch on my throttle has become mouse left& right click + mouse wheel upb&down, so I can activate everything in the cockpit by looking at iy. Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 I only need to hit ESC, f1, f2. I mapped everything else to horas, and a small button box I made. For all the rest, my mic switch on my throttle has become mouse left& right click + mouse wheel upb&down, so I can activate everything in the cockpit by looking at iy. Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk Oh, I will use this tip too. Thank you. i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | Orion 2 throttle base w/ Viper & Hornet grips| VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 2x TM MFDs & 1x WW DDI | 2x Bass shakers | SIMple SIMpit chair | WW TakeOff panel | Andre JetSeat | WW Hornet UFC | WW Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle - Phantom - Mirage F1 - Afghanistan - Irak
javelina1 Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 Voiceattack... MSI MAG Z790 Carbon, i9-13900k, NH-D15 cooler, 64 GB CL40 6000mhz RAM, MSI RTX4090, Yamaha 5.1 A/V Receiver, 4x 2TB Samsung 980 Pro NVMe, 1x 2TB Samsung 870 EVO SSD, Win 11 Pro, TM Warthog, Virpil WarBRD, MFG Crosswinds, 43" Samsung 4K TV, 21.5 Acer VT touchscreen, TrackIR, Varjo Aero, Wheel Stand Pro Super Warthog, Phanteks Enthoo Pro2 Full Tower Case, Seasonic GX-1200 ATX3 PSU, PointCTRL, Buttkicker 2, K-51 Helicopter Collective Control
imacken Posted June 1, 2018 Author Posted June 1, 2018 I only need to hit ESC, f1, f2. I mapped everything else to horas, and a small button box I made. For all the rest, my mic switch on my throttle has become mouse left& right click + mouse wheel upb&down, so I can activate everything in the cockpit by looking at iy. Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk I have F1, F2, F5 and F10 mapped to pinky lever + DMS on my HOTAS Warthog, so no need for keyboard on those. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
FastForward Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) I got one too, I wonder what commands you have binded. CDU? UFC? I may need some ideas :thumbup: I'm more into warbirds and helos than modern planes, so I binded mostly UI commands on my G13 (F keys, pause, escape...etc) , but when I need to type numbers, such as switching between pilot, copilot...etc, or radio command choice, I have the numbers mapped just under my thumb on my G600 mouse :thumbup: Edited June 1, 2018 by FastForward
Quadg Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 I have my keyboard low on my right. so I can see it through the gap in the nose without moving my head to much. makes typing into multiplayer chat a lot easier. My Rig: AM5 7950X, 32GB DDR5 6000, M2 SSD, EVGA 1080 Superclocked, Warthog Throttle and Stick, MFG Crosswinds, Oculus Rift.
Fri13 Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 If you want immersion, forget the keyboard and voice attack and start using Touch Controllers. You start to operate the aircraft with your hands and you know what you can do in combat and what you can't do in combat as how often you need to move your hand away from either controller to do some things. That way you learn as well why the cockpits were designed as they were as your left hand can't reach on right and your right can't reach on left. It is like TrackIR vs VR where with TrackIR you can easily look your 6'clock but with VR you can't without tilting head over one shoulder and moving upper body (why it is good to have a flight seat instead normal office seat). The keyboard is required only for one thing in VR, that is a Space bar for tutorials as you need to press it to continue. So hope that there would be binding option for that as it is immersion breaker. Voice Attack should be used only for the radio commands for wingman etc. So it creates more immersive action when you press and hold mic to command wingman ie. join on you or spread out etc. i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K.
dburne Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 Yeah I really need to start using my Touch controllers more for DCS and see how I get along with them. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 If you want immersion, forget the keyboard and voice attack and start using Touch Controllers. You start to operate the aircraft with your hands and you know what you can do in combat and what you can't do in combat as how often you need to move your hand away from either controller to do some things. That way you learn as well why the cockpits were designed as they were as your left hand can't reach on right and your right can't reach on left. It is like TrackIR vs VR where with TrackIR you can easily look your 6'clock but with VR you can't without tilting head over one shoulder and moving upper body (why it is good to have a flight seat instead normal office seat). The keyboard is required only for one thing in VR, that is a Space bar for tutorials as you need to press it to continue. So hope that there would be binding option for that as it is immersion breaker. Voice Attack should be used only for the radio commands for wingman etc. So it creates more immersive action when you press and hold mic to command wingman ie. join on you or spread out etc. I wish I could figure out a way to keep my controllers at hand while flying. A friend of mine is testing placing magnets to the hotas case. i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | Orion 2 throttle base w/ Viper & Hornet grips| VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 2x TM MFDs & 1x WW DDI | 2x Bass shakers | SIMple SIMpit chair | WW TakeOff panel | Andre JetSeat | WW Hornet UFC | WW Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle - Phantom - Mirage F1 - Afghanistan - Irak
Fri13 Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 I wish I could figure out a way to keep my controllers at hand while flying. A friend of mine is testing placing magnets to the hotas case.Keep on lap... They stay there well enough when pointed down. Easier to grab than mouse as well. -- I usually post from my phone so please excuse any typos, inappropriate punctuation and capitalization, missing words and general lack of cohesion and sense in my posts..... i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K.
Greyman Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 i had this conversation with a guy that put them on a piece of cord around his neck, so they were always close by and they wouldn't drop on the floor when he wasn't using them.
dopebogey Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 Like others have said...voice attack, voice attack, VOICE ATTACK! It's your VR friend ;)
Fri13 Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 Actually good idea if it is stretching.i had this conversation with a guy that put them on a piece of cord around his neck, so they were always close by and they wouldn't drop on the floor when he wasn't using them. -- I usually post from my phone so please excuse any typos, inappropriate punctuation and capitalization, missing words and general lack of cohesion and sense in my posts..... i7-8700k, 32GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 2x 2080S SLI 8GB, Oculus Rift S. i7-8700k, 16GB 2666Mhz DDR4, 1080Ti 11GB, 27" 4K, 65" HDR 4K.
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted June 1, 2018 Posted June 1, 2018 Keep on lap... They stay there well enough when pointed down. Easier to grab than mouse as well. -- I usually post from my phone so please excuse any typos, inappropriate punctuation and capitalization, missing words and general lack of cohesion and sense in my posts..... Already tried and didn´t work for me i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | Orion 2 throttle base w/ Viper & Hornet grips| VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 2x TM MFDs & 1x WW DDI | 2x Bass shakers | SIMple SIMpit chair | WW TakeOff panel | Andre JetSeat | WW Hornet UFC | WW Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle - Phantom - Mirage F1 - Afghanistan - Irak
Echo179 Posted June 4, 2018 Posted June 4, 2018 Actually good idea if it is stretching. -- I usually post from my phone so please excuse any typos, inappropriate punctuation and capitalization, missing words and general lack of cohesion and sense in my posts..... They have those retractable key rings too. Might be worth a look. My annoyance with them is the floating hands when I'm not using them.
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