The sierra hotel carrier break. Aggressive TOP GUN trap

[Growling Sidewinder]

 

My attempt at a sierra hotel carrier break. did a couple passes before I got this one, I think its actually easier than the case 1...or maybe because I practiced the case 1 it made this one easy, who knows.

 

for those that don't know The "Sierra Hotel" Break was a carrier break perfected by Mike "Nasty" Manazir, a former F-14 fighter pilot and Landing Signal Officer, designed to get aircraft down on the deck as soon as possible.

 

 

She's a beaut, very fast landing pattern, highly recommended. I added LSO view and pilot view into the video.

 

Time to learn to trap like a top gun

 

 

 

 

 

real video

 

Edited June 6, 2018 by BIGNEWY
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[MemphisBelle]

Thats a real nice landing, makes really sense to practice that as well. I wondered why you havent had your lefft DDI set to HUD. The Velocity Vector and AOA Indicator in the HUD should have better been lined up in one hight with the meatball, thus you might have performed a perfect thrird wire trap :).But I need to be able to do that as well before I make noise here :D

Now I need to train that as well :joystick:

[Growling Sidewinder]

Thats a real nice landing, makes really sense to practice that as well. I wondered why you havent had your lefft DDI set to HUD. The Velocity Vector and AOA Indicator in the HUD should have better been lined up in one hight with the meatball, thus you might have performed a perfect thrird wire trap :).But I need to be able to do that as well before I make noise here :D

Now I need to train that as well :joystick:

 

To be honest I didn't set the DDIs because I was just messing around practicing and just wanted to get the turns right before I got all technical throwing the FCS and HUD on there didn't even use the TACAN or anything. It just happened to come out decent so I figured what the hell upload it.

[ChasingNeedles]

That's Hot. I need to be riding the crotch more or else I'm always under the glide,

 

my instincts always telling me to fly the wires or else it feels like I'm gonna overshoot.

 

Edited June 6, 2018 by BIGNEWY
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[RhineHornet]

Interesting video, though I think there's lots of room for improvement. You touched down / trapped with 236 knots? Uh..oh...

[BIGNEWY]

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[Slant]

Nice one! Now try it with flaps. :D

[HiJack]

Growling Sidewinder landed way to fast, not good, not good at all.

[RED]

Interesting video, though I think there's lots of room for improvement. You touched down / trapped with 236 knots? Uh..oh...

+1

 

236 -> pile of burning metal? :music_whistling:

[ChasingNeedles]

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Roger airboss, figured I'd try and slide that one through with an exclamation.:music_whistling::thumbup:

[Kazius]

Just out of curiosity. What would happen in real life if a jet landed on a carrier at 236 kias and probably not 8.1 AoA? Would the plane event hook the cables? If it did hook, would there be damage or just a really bad jolt for the pilot?

[26-J39]

Just out of curiosity. What would happen in real life if a jet landed on a carrier at 236 kias and probably not 8.1 AoA? Would the plane event hook the cables? If it did hook, would there be damage or just a really bad jolt for the pilot?

 

 

If u and the crew survive, at least u get a free helicopter ride home :lol:

[macedk]

One snapped neck for the pilot and hook will break

 

But looked cool :)

[strikerdg]

I think its actually easier than the case 1...or maybe because I practiced the case 1 it made this one easy, who knows.

 

SH break is ONLY done during case I. Case I is set based on WX and refers to the pattern used for both launching and recovering aircraft. Technically the SH break uses the exact same pattern just breaks earlier and some slightly modified alritudes to actually make it work.

 

Try breaking behind the ship to be able to slow down. Also rememeber you would be hitting other landing aircraft if you enter the break as low as you did..

Edited June 6, 2018 by strikerdg
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[Growling Sidewinder]

Interesting video, though I think there's lots of room for improvement. You touched down / trapped with 236 knots? Uh..oh...

 

haha I know i know, its hard to bleed the speed. I tried to do it at the fastest speed its ever been done with is I think 600 knots. unbelievable how hard it is to bleed that speed.

[Growling Sidewinder]

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sorry about that boss. thats deff my bad.

 

any chance you can put it as "the sierra hotel carrier break" ?

Edited June 6, 2018 by Growling Sidewinder

[Growling Sidewinder]

SH break is ONLY done during case I. Case I is set based on WX and refers to the pattern used for both launching and recovering aircraft. Technically the SH break uses the exact same pattern just breaks earlier and some slightly modified alritudes to actually make it work.

 

Try breaking behind the ship to be able to slow down. Also rememeber you would be hitting other landing aircraft if you enter the break as low as you did..

 

thats a solid tip, I entered the break that low to try to see if having to gain altitude could help slow me down a bit. but youre absolutely right its deff not cool to do in real life. I'll try breaking a bit after the carrier and see how that goes.

[Growling Sidewinder]

Growling Sidewinder landed way to fast, not good, not good at all.

 

ahah honestly this was my reaction after I landed that

 

[Yoda967]

:megalol:While we're nitpicking, I'd like to request that you quit torturing those poor figlets (FFGs) and station them out where they belong. Put a cruiser at the carrier's 170 relative for 1500 yards and leave the FFGs out of the screen.

 

Trust me...a couple days of tagging along with the carrier and the crews on those FFGs are going to be looking for a change to strangle some airedales.:megalol:

[kobeshow]

If someone says "hey this is easier" and then lands with twohundretsomething knots, they should be prepared for the "nitpicking".

[Growling Sidewinder]

:megalol:While we're nitpicking, I'd like to request that you quit torturing those poor figlets (FFGs) and station them out where they belong. Put a cruiser at the carrier's 170 relative for 1500 yards and leave the FFGs out of the screen.

 

Trust me...a couple days of tagging along with the carrier and the crews on those FFGs are going to be looking for a change to strangle some airedales.:megalol:

 

haha ok ok i'll change it out. u make a good point.

 

If someone says "hey this is easier" and then lands with twohundretsomething knots, they should be prepared for the "nitpicking".

 

ahah fair enough man, I dont mind the nitpicking. helps me spot issues and fix them. by all means anything you see thats a miss, post it, I'd love to become perfect at this stuff.

[christiankirk81]

Great effort. Obviously we have a lot of purists in this community so you won't be shortchanged with feedback. I'm glad you're taking them constructively, that's the right attitude :)

 

At least you're putting a lot of effort in actually flying the plane and clocking some hours of mastering handling rather than say "this and that doesn't work" when they've obviously need to just put in the time to get better. Which you are doing. so Kudos mate!

[Impact]

 

Can you guess what is missing with this landing?

Edited June 6, 2018 by Impact

[Growling Sidewinder]

Great effort. Obviously we have a lot of purists in this community so you won't be shortchanged with feedback. I'm glad you're taking them constructively, that's the right attitude :)

 

At least you're putting a lot of effort in actually flying the plane and clocking some hours of mastering handling rather than say "this and that doesn't work" when they've obviously need to just put in the time to get better. Which you are doing. so Kudos mate!

 

thanks man I appreciate the kind words.

 

 

Can you guess what is missing with this landing?

 

ok, first off, way too much fuel to be landing, he'd need to circle for a while just to dump that fuel, no initial pass, no 180, no 90, no 45, entered goove way to high, AoA way too steep, complete disregard for the ball, and what looked like a hook slap at the end there.

 

but he's probably just learning. that was me a week ago. he'll learn.

[Eldur]

That throttle reaction and how he's running the throttle in the RL footage though. The F404 feels like stone age tech compared to the +10 one