BlazingTrigger Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 I thought the GPS module was going to be a one time purchase and it'd get added to different modules. Not a lot of aircraft need the GPS but selling the same product but making it only available for one aircraft that you buy and making you buy the module again just to get it on to a different aircraft seems a bit off. What are other people's thoughts? Sent from my Pixel using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistking Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 well it depends on the prize, i guess. the base/2d version goes for 11$ and the bundle goes for 15$. if that mean, that one can add true integration for upcoming planes to the base versions for about 4$ or 5$, i think that's fair actually, especially if you can gab it at a discount at some point. i would want it for specific planes only (the true integration, that is; not at all interested in the 2d overlay), so this pricing model could actually benefit me (instead of having a much higher base price and get it for modules i don't own, or don't need/want it for)... My personal wishlist after half a decade with DCS: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/184968-my-personal-wishlist-after-half-a-decade-with-dcs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessuno0505 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Yes, they have said 5,99 $ for each 3d integrated compatible module (now only l-39 and mi-8 ) if you already have the 2d base pack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
504smudge Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 it was originally sold as a one time purchase, i'm ABSOLUTELY LIVID that they are asking us to spend yet more money to add it to the L39, I could quite literally strangle someone Eagles may soar but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. https://www.youtube.com/user/504smudge https://www.facebook.com/504smudge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koriel Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 it was originally sold as a one time purchase, i'm ABSOLUTELY LIVID that they are asking us to spend yet more money to add it to the L39, I could quite literally strangle someoneYup that's what I remember as well. It was certainly implied and never contradicted. On that promise I bought the module. In anticipation of it's use in the L-39. I have never used it yet since purchase, and that was over a year ago. I'm on mobile, and strapped for time. Unable to dig into past comments. And knowing a certain community manager those(or these) post will most likely be removed. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
504smudge Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Yup that's what I remember as well. It was certainly implied and never contradicted. On that promise I bought the module. In anticipation of it's use in the L-39. I have never used it yet since purchase, and that was over a year ago. I'm on mobile, and strapped for time. Unable to dig into past comments. And knowing a certain community manager those(or these) post will most likely be removed. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk Someone at ED better step up soon and explain the reason for this, and justify why we were lied to. this is a real smack in the mouth to loyal DCS customers. and thats what we are Customers, DCS is a product we pay for. To be told we will get one thing, then for that to be changed without warning or option after we've bought it is totally uncalled for. IF they decide to delete these posts then i'd have no other option than to express my opinions and facts on this matter in more public places, I may not have a very big Youtube following (just over 4K) but i'd do everything I could to make sure people were aware of this deceit. Eagles may soar but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. https://www.youtube.com/user/504smudge https://www.facebook.com/504smudge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester986 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 As far as I recall pricing for other modules was to be determined. Which is why I didn't buy it yet. I hope it gets put in the Huey and F-5 as well. It probably should be like 20$ ish dollars maybe 30 but cover all modules. As it is though I'll still buy it for the L-39. I'm not pissed but it could've been handled better PR wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 20, 2018 ED Team Share Posted July 20, 2018 It was never stated to be sold as a 1 time purchase. It was a purchase price only for the Mi-8. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted July 20, 2018 ED Team Share Posted July 20, 2018 Someone at ED better step up soon and explain the reason for this, and justify why we were lied to. this is a real smack in the mouth to loyal DCS customers. and thats what we are Customers, DCS is a product we pay for. To be told we will get one thing, then for that to be changed without warning or option after we've bought it is totally uncalled for. IF they decide to delete these posts then i'd have no other option than to express my opinions and facts on this matter in more public places, I may not have a very big Youtube following (just over 4K) but i'd do everything I could to make sure people were aware of this deceit. Please cite your source where we ever promised, or even implied, that the NS 430 would be available for all aircraft based on the purchase of the NS 430 for the Mi-8? In fact, it was even clarified here when this was originally announced: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3239062&postcount=101 Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sniper175 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Well I think the 430 is awesome, I just can’t wait for a 3D version for Huey, as 2d is still WIP for VR. I7-8700 @5GHZ, 32GB 3000MHZ RAM, 1080TI, Rift S, ODYSSEY +. SSD DRIVES, WIN10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester986 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 In another thread wags said 2d is not planned for vr as of now. I read into as maybe but don't buy it thinking you'll get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cordite Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 In the "invisible" thread, ussr rik said it was planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester986 Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 They may want to work that out then or end up facing some backlash. Check out wags answer in VR compatible thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 20, 2018 ED Team Share Posted July 20, 2018 We dont want to commit to VR compatibility until we know we can do it, of course we would like to have it, VR is very important, its just not possible at this moment. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cordite Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Excuse me? Read here. :mad: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=204389&page=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
504smudge Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Please cite your source where we ever promised, or even implied, that the NS 430 would be available for all aircraft based on the purchase of the NS 430 for the Mi-8? In fact, it was even clarified here when this was originally announced: https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=3239062&postcount=101 Whats the point when the evidence you provide is almost immediately deleted and they you get banned from posting.... Eagles may soar but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines. https://www.youtube.com/user/504smudge https://www.facebook.com/504smudge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splash Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 For me it is OK. I bought it when released and now, without any additional charge I have a 2D popup for almost all the modules. I wonder what is the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizzy Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Just a note... ED mention that the NS 430 is fully wired into the electrical and radio systems of the Mi-8MTV2 and the L39... so that is a good positive.. looking forward to exploring this avenue... On the 2D side there is no mention of full electrical integration... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 20, 2018 ED Team Share Posted July 20, 2018 Whats the point when the evidence you provide is almost immediately deleted and they you get banned from posting.... Send it to me in a PM then, if it was stated somewhere, I would like to see it. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted July 20, 2018 ED Team Share Posted July 20, 2018 Whats the point when the evidence you provide is almost immediately deleted and they you get banned from posting.... No posts re NS 430 have been removed on our forum. By all means, please post a link to where we stated that the NS 430 for the M-8MTV would also be available for all other aircraft. Or, feel free to PM it/them to me. If there was an earlier communication, I want to see it and correct it. Thanks, Matt Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 20, 2018 ED Team Share Posted July 20, 2018 Just a note... ED mention that the NS 430 is fully wired into the electrical and radio systems of the Mi-8MTV2 and the L39... so that is a good positive.. looking forward to exploring this avenue... On the 2D side there is no mention of full electrical integration... Yes, its why they are being sold as they are, the 3D dash mounted versions are more complex, I dont think the 2D version is as complex as far as integration. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team NineLine Posted July 20, 2018 ED Team Share Posted July 20, 2018 Excuse me? Read here. :mad: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=204389&page=2 They are working on it. The plan is to get it working, its not working yet, so its not a promised feature at the moment until they are sure they can make it work right. Forum Rules • My YouTube • My Discord - NineLine#0440• **How to Report a Bug** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twistking Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) it was originally sold as a one time purchase, i'm ABSOLUTELY LIVID that they are asking us to spend yet more money to add it to the L39, I could quite literally strangle someone as far as i remember, it was never promoted as being for more aircrafts then the mi-8. i'm quite sure about this, because i was (and still am) interested in the module, but do not own the mi-8. then it was hinted, that it would eventually also come for the l-39, but i can't remember any official mentioning that the l-39 would be included in the price. (i can somehow understand, that people assumed it would be included, because the price seemed relatively high for it being only for one aircraft... still i honestly can't remember anyone from ED hinting at it being included back then) that being said, i think the new pricing model is quite good actually, i only think that the 2d/base version should be a little bit cheaper, as i can't really see me using it, even though i am not yet on vr... *edit* going a little OT here, but could anyone from ED confirm, that full integration will eventually come for more airframes (yak, tf-51, f-5...) Edited July 20, 2018 by twistking My personal wishlist after half a decade with DCS: https://forum.dcs.world/topic/184968-my-personal-wishlist-after-half-a-decade-with-dcs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitormouraa Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 No posts re NS 430 have been removed on our forum. By all means, please post a link to where we stated that the NS 430 for the M-8MTV would also be available for all other aircraft. Or, feel free to PM it/them to me. If there was an earlier communication, I want to see it and correct it. Thanks, Matt Perhaps this? https://belsimtek.com/news/1788/ SplashOneGaming Discord https://splashonegaming.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ED Team Wags Posted July 20, 2018 ED Team Share Posted July 20, 2018 Perhaps this? https://belsimtek.com/news/1788/ You would have to be really reading into that statement come to such a conclusion. This text is very specific to the Mi-8 and at no point discusses other modules. Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/wagmatt Twitch: wagmatt System: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3729544#post3729544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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