Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted September 13, 2022 Posted September 13, 2022 On 9/10/2022 at 2:17 PM, Indyplumber said: I just discovered this product while researching my options for VR vs IR with touchscreens. WoW! This looks amazing. I'm curious what the current lead time is for this as compared to the initial release. Is it still a year to receive? I strongly think so but you can read the latest news on PointCTRL official Discord, besides joining the community and learn more about the device. i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | Orion 2 throttle base w/ Viper & Hornet grips| VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 2x TM MFDs & 1x WW DDI | 2x Bass shakers | SIMple SIMpit chair | WW TakeOff panel | Andre JetSeat | WW Hornet UFC | WW Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle - Phantom - Mirage F1 - Afghanistan - Irak
Mars Exulte Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) What's the production holdup? If it's a year backlog, and I guess had been for sometime now, they can't ramp up production or something? Damn. Even 3d printing this stuff doesn't take THAT long. -Edit Just checked their discord, as of a few days ago they are shipping for July 2021. So about 13 month backlog. Edited September 14, 2022 by Mars Exulte Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2
Gruman Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 PointCtrls are build by Miles and his family at his home (AFAIK). This manual labor can only be scaled up to a limited amount. Outsourcing this production to a EMS and 3d Printing Company would clear the backlog within 4-8 Weeks. This would clear up Miles to do other handy endeavours for the sim community. But it's his baby. I got my V1 and happy. Intel I9 10900k @5.1GHz | MSI MEG Z490 Unify | Corsair Vengeance 64GB - 3600MHz | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 VPC T-50 Base /w Viper & Hornet Grip | VPC Rotor TCS Pro w/ Hawk-60 Grip | TM TPR LG C2 42" | Reverb G2 | TIR 5 | PointCtrl | OpenKneeboard
MilesD Posted September 14, 2022 Author Posted September 14, 2022 10 hours ago, Gruman said: PointCtrls are build by Miles and his family at his home (AFAIK). This manual labor can only be scaled up to a limited amount. Outsourcing this production to a EMS and 3d Printing Company would clear the backlog within 4-8 Weeks. This would clear up Miles to do other handy endeavors for the sim community. But it's his baby. I got my V1 and happy. I understand the frustration, I did not expect there to be this much interest in PointCTRL for so long. However, PointCTRL is still a very niche product, and it's not like there are several thousand back orders. A large part of the initial delay was supply chain issues, which I have mostly resolved by going directly to manufactures. The most time consuming (and enjoyable) part of PointCTRL is the customer service. The next most time consuming parts are assembling the finished PCBs, inspections, testing, and continual firmware updates, all of which would be difficult to outsource - especially with the low production numbers required. PointCTRL is made up of 7 different PCBs, with both reflowed and hand soldered components. The steps that would be most easily outsourced are the ones that take us the least amount of time. Those components, along with the cases, are always way ahead of shipping. My 3D printers are mostly idle because of the speed I can pump out the enclosures, and populating the boards with components is not an issue either. It's the Point of Sale and service, something I can't really outsource, that are the reason why things aren't going out faster. The PointCTRL community is stepping up and helping each other more, and better video and instructions would help mitigate some of the customer service. It's just that I really don't want to sell more than I can support. I currently have very little to do with the PCB assemblies, and in the upcoming months I am going to focus on developing a GUI and better instructions and videos. As those of you that have seen my videos can confirm, it's not my strong suit. Moving forward, having better directions and instructional videos would significantly increase the ship rate. I would not be happy selling a product that I could not effectively support. Thanks, Miles 11 Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/11/15 Pre-Order Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/ PointCTRL Support Discord https://discord.gg/jH5FktJ PintCTRL Website https://pointctrl.com/
Mars Exulte Posted September 14, 2022 Posted September 14, 2022 4 hours ago, MilesD said: I understand the frustration, I did not expect there to be this much interest in PointCTRL for so long. However, PointCTRL is still a very niche product, and it's not like there are several thousand back orders. A large part of the initial delay was supply chain issues, which I have mostly resolved by going directly to manufactures. The most time consuming (and enjoyable) part of PointCTRL is the customer service. The next most time consuming parts are assembling the finished PCBs, inspections, testing, and continual firmware updates, all of which would be difficult to outsource - especially with the low production numbers required. PointCTRL is made up of 7 different PCBs, with both reflowed and hand soldered components. The steps that would be most easily outsourced are the ones that take us the least amount of time. Those components, along with the cases, are always way ahead of shipping. My 3D printers are mostly idle because of the speed I can pump out the enclosures, and populating the boards with components is not an issue either. It's the Point of Sale and service, something I can't really outsource, that are the reason why things aren't going out faster. The PointCTRL community is stepping up and helping each other more, and better video and instructions would help mitigate some of the customer service. It's just that I really don't want to sell more than I can support. I currently have very little to do with the PCB assemblies, and in the upcoming months I am going to focus on developing a GUI and better instructions and videos. As those of you that have seen my videos can confirm, it's not my strong suit. Moving forward, having better directions and instructional videos would significantly increase the ship rate. I would not be happy selling a product that I could not effectively support. Thanks, Miles Thanks for the information. Congratulations on your success, and I understand your position. Thanks for your efforts! Де вороги, знайдуться козаки їх перемогти. 5800x3d * 3090 * 64gb * Reverb G2
MilesD Posted September 19, 2022 Author Posted September 19, 2022 I wanted to share Stri][kers video. While the wood is not required, it really does add to the immersion and ease of use. I had a plexiglass panel I was using before I moved my pit, and I do miss it. I have to get back on that. Thanks Stri][ker! 2 1 Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/11/15 Pre-Order Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/ PointCTRL Support Discord https://discord.gg/jH5FktJ PintCTRL Website https://pointctrl.com/
FPascal4 Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 MilesD, I think I'm confused about the ordering process for the PointCTRL. I recent resubmitted an order for an advance kit. From the description on your site, I was expecting to receive an invoice for the order and a position number in the queue. Did I misunderstand? When do we get invoiced and assigned a waiting list position? -Freeman Games: DCS - X-Plane - MSFS 2020 PC: i9-12900K, MSI MAG CoreLiquid P360, MSI Z690 Tomahawk WIFI DDR4, 64GB RAM, 2 x 2TB M.2 SSD, Gigabyte RTX 3090 Ti 24GB VR: Current - Oculus Rift S - Awaiting delivery of Varjo Aero, Valve Index controllers, Ultraleap Stereo 170 Projects: Flexible F-18c/A-10c/F-16/Spitfire/Mustang VR Simpit (8020 based) - Cessna 172 Cockpit - Frasca 142 Conversion to Beechcraft Duchess 76
Lt_Jaeger Posted September 28, 2022 Posted September 28, 2022 You should have received an email with submitting the order, stating the order date. The queue is determined by your order date. The dates currently delivered can be found in the discord. That said, there is a huge backlog in the delivery (~ 1 year) due to various reasons (one men show, waaaaaay more successful and thus demands on pointctrl ever imagined by Miles, problems to source the necessary parts etc etc). Miles currently being sick doesn't help either. Long story short, there will be a kinda long waiting time, even so Miles is on his heals to cut it down, but rest assured, it is worth it. 1
nessuno0505 Posted October 10, 2022 Posted October 10, 2022 (edited) @MilesD My pointCTRL has broken, the usb female port has detached from the HMD As you can see, the usb port has a broken pin. But even with a new usb port, I do not have the right tools to solder it. Is it possible to have a new block with the PCBs and the camera as a replacement? If you search on the internet it seems these arduino pro micro have very fragile USB ports, maybe I'll put a bit of hot glue on the new one as a reinforcement. Thanks. Edited October 10, 2022 by nessuno0505
Durkin Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 For those wanting to know more about these the Discord channel is the best place. The last order shipping update has him shipping orders place July 7 2021. I placed my Order July 8 2021 so have been waiting 15 months but should be getting an update soon I hope. Miles was out with Covid for a few weeks and that slowed him down. From what I see it is the device to have if you are doing VR. Worth the wait.
dburne Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Durkin said: For those wanting to know more about these the Discord channel is the best place. The last order shipping update has him shipping orders place July 7 2021. I placed my Order July 8 2021 so have been waiting 15 months but should be getting an update soon I hope. Miles was out with Covid for a few weeks and that slowed him down. From what I see it is the device to have if you are doing VR. Worth the wait. Indeed it is well worth the wait. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
Ala12Rv-Tundra Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 On 10/10/2022 at 8:29 PM, nessuno0505 said: @MilesD My pointCTRL has broken, the usb female port has detached from the HMD As you can see, the usb port has a broken pin. But even with a new usb port, I do not have the right tools to solder it. Is it possible to have a new block with the PCBs and the camera as a replacement? If you search on the internet it seems these arduino pro micro have very fragile USB ports, maybe I'll put a bit of hot glue on the new one as a reinforcement. Thanks. Another tactics are magnetic usb ports, or installing a short extensor so once you are done flying, remove the extensor instead of from the pcb fragile conector. Also installing the adhesive pad with a cable tie as a stress relief. Check discord where others share their methods. And yes miles provide plenty of spare parts, sadly it's a common issue 1 i5 8400 | 32 Gb RAM | RTX 2080Ti | Virpil Mongoose T-50 base w/ Warthog & Hornet sticks | Warthog throttle | Cougar throttle USB | Orion 2 throttle base w/ Viper & Hornet grips| VKB T-Rudder Mk IV | Oculus Rift S | Buddy-Fox A-10 UFC | 2x TM MFDs & 1x WW DDI | 2x Bass shakers | SIMple SIMpit chair | WW TakeOff panel | Andre JetSeat | WW Hornet UFC | WW Viper ICP FC3 - Warthog - F-5E - Harrier - NTTR - Hornet - Tomcat - Huey - Viper - C-101 - PG - Hip - SuperCarrier - Syria - Warthog II - Hind - South Atlantic - Sinai - Strike Eagle - Phantom - Mirage F1 - Afghanistan - Irak
nessuno0505 Posted October 18, 2022 Posted October 18, 2022 I've contacted MilesD on Discord for a spare part and I'm waiting an answer, nevertheless I always kept the USB cable inserted; probably the weight alone of the cable has soften the soldering of the USB port until breaking it.
Ganesh Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 Am 10.10.2022 um 20:29 schrieb nessuno0505: @MilesD My pointCTRL has broken, the usb female port has detached from the HMD As you can see, the usb port has a broken pin. But even with a new usb port, I do not have the right tools to solder it. Is it possible to have a new block with the PCBs and the camera as a replacement? If you search on the internet it seems these arduino pro micro have very fragile USB ports, maybe I'll put a bit of hot glue on the new one as a reinforcement. Thanks. You can try soldering. A bit fiddly but doable with good eyesight or a magnifying glass. regards Ganesh She: "Your orders from ED have reached a total amount of $ 1121,03 and your hardware expenses are countless..." Me: "I can´t invest my money much better until i wait for Germanys Next Top Model": The Bo-105 PAH1A1 + Vulkan & continuous work on multithread & VR optimization! Asus Z490E - 10900k@5,3GHz - 64GB 3600 DDR4 - 4090FE - Reverb G2 - MFG Crosswinds +DamperMod - Selfmade TableMounts - Centered VirPil T-50 Base with 20cm Extension - TM Warthog & Hornet Grip - TM Throttle +SlewMod - Pimped MSFFB2 for Huey - JetSeat SE on a sawn out office Chair - PointCTRL
Ganesh Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 Other concern: One of my FCU-buttons have hangers and another on the AUX has said goodbye completely. Hangers means that they remain pressed and only release again when a new press is given. With a probability of about 20% it is very annoying during flight operations. Question: will it help to use tuner spray? Ahh.. no risk no fun. Will try it... regards Ganesh She: "Your orders from ED have reached a total amount of $ 1121,03 and your hardware expenses are countless..." Me: "I can´t invest my money much better until i wait for Germanys Next Top Model": The Bo-105 PAH1A1 + Vulkan & continuous work on multithread & VR optimization! Asus Z490E - 10900k@5,3GHz - 64GB 3600 DDR4 - 4090FE - Reverb G2 - MFG Crosswinds +DamperMod - Selfmade TableMounts - Centered VirPil T-50 Base with 20cm Extension - TM Warthog & Hornet Grip - TM Throttle +SlewMod - Pimped MSFFB2 for Huey - JetSeat SE on a sawn out office Chair - PointCTRL
MilesD Posted November 2, 2022 Author Posted November 2, 2022 18 hours ago, Ganesh said: Other concern: One of my FCU-buttons have hangers and another on the AUX has said goodbye completely. Hangers means that they remain pressed and only release again when a new press is given. With a probability of about 20% it is very annoying during flight operations. Question: will it help to use tuner spray? Ahh.. no risk no fun. Will try it... Well that won't work, v1 or v2? Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/11/15 Pre-Order Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/ PointCTRL Support Discord https://discord.gg/jH5FktJ PintCTRL Website https://pointctrl.com/
Ganesh Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) Thats right Miles, didn't do anything. I still use the V1, V2 lies untested in the drawer. You wanted to send me an old spare FCU with the V2 delivery/package at the beginning of the year, but unfortunately you forgot. I wanted to give the V2 to someone else and keep the V1 since everything is already assembled and good enough for me. Are V2 FCUs compatible with the V1 HMD? Then I could order a new set of FCUs from you. P.S. After a long DCS-break due to lack of hardware, i'm back now. All unsolved cases are also still there. At least i have a few more frames now Edited November 2, 2022 by Ganesh P.S. regards Ganesh She: "Your orders from ED have reached a total amount of $ 1121,03 and your hardware expenses are countless..." Me: "I can´t invest my money much better until i wait for Germanys Next Top Model": The Bo-105 PAH1A1 + Vulkan & continuous work on multithread & VR optimization! Asus Z490E - 10900k@5,3GHz - 64GB 3600 DDR4 - 4090FE - Reverb G2 - MFG Crosswinds +DamperMod - Selfmade TableMounts - Centered VirPil T-50 Base with 20cm Extension - TM Warthog & Hornet Grip - TM Throttle +SlewMod - Pimped MSFFB2 for Huey - JetSeat SE on a sawn out office Chair - PointCTRL
nessuno0505 Posted November 2, 2022 Posted November 2, 2022 22 ore fa, Ganesh ha scritto: You can try soldering. I'm waiting for a replacement sent by @MilesD, about 20 dollars, absolutely a fair price and a wonderful support (as always)
MilesD Posted November 3, 2022 Author Posted November 3, 2022 4 hours ago, nessuno0505 said: I'm waiting for a replacement sent by @MilesD, about 20 dollars, absolutely a fair price and a wonderful support (as always) Did I send you tracking info? Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/11/15 Pre-Order Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/ PointCTRL Support Discord https://discord.gg/jH5FktJ PintCTRL Website https://pointctrl.com/
MilesD Posted November 3, 2022 Author Posted November 3, 2022 5 hours ago, Ganesh said: Thats right Miles, didn't do anything. I still use the V1, V2 lies untested in the drawer. You wanted to send me an old spare FCU with the V2 delivery/package at the beginning of the year, but unfortunately you forgot. I wanted to give the V2 to someone else and keep the V1 since everything is already assembled and good enough for me. Are V2 FCUs compatible with the V1 HMD? Then I could order a new set of FCUs from you. P.S. After a long DCS-break due to lack of hardware, i'm back now. All unsolved cases are also still there. At least i have a few more frames now Talk to me Ganesh, So it's the original v1 that's missing button presses? That thing must be going on 3 years now. The v2 with the latest firmware has more accuracy and is a smother experience. I would mount the whole v2 set up. Miles Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/11/15 Pre-Order Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/ PointCTRL Support Discord https://discord.gg/jH5FktJ PintCTRL Website https://pointctrl.com/
hannibal Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 when is your next multiplayer mission @MilesDim off next week, would like to join your dcs session! find me on steam! username: Hannibal_A101A http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197969447179
nessuno0505 Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) 10 ore fa, MilesD ha scritto: Did I send you tracking info? Yes thanks, the package results in "pre-shipment state - awaiting item". Edited November 3, 2022 by nessuno0505
Ganesh Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 vor 17 Stunden schrieb MilesD: Talk to me Ganesh, So it's the original v1 that's missing button presses? That thing must be going on 3 years now. The v2 with the latest firmware has more accuracy and is a smother experience. I would mount the whole v2 set up. Miles Well, i've probably used it for about 30 hours in the last 2 years. But ok, i bought it used and i don't know what my predecessor managed to do in the first few months. Hhmm.., should i just throw it away now? I'm not the guy to throw things away so quickly, especially after the soldering-action we grew together. But if i can't fix it anymore... i just need a reliable button or a new/old FCU. It can't be that impossible, can it? vor 22 Stunden schrieb Ganesh: ...I still use the V1, V2 lies untested in the drawer... ...Are V2 FCUs compatible with the V1 HMD? Then I could order a new set of FCUs from you. regards Ganesh She: "Your orders from ED have reached a total amount of $ 1121,03 and your hardware expenses are countless..." Me: "I can´t invest my money much better until i wait for Germanys Next Top Model": The Bo-105 PAH1A1 + Vulkan & continuous work on multithread & VR optimization! Asus Z490E - 10900k@5,3GHz - 64GB 3600 DDR4 - 4090FE - Reverb G2 - MFG Crosswinds +DamperMod - Selfmade TableMounts - Centered VirPil T-50 Base with 20cm Extension - TM Warthog & Hornet Grip - TM Throttle +SlewMod - Pimped MSFFB2 for Huey - JetSeat SE on a sawn out office Chair - PointCTRL
MilesD Posted November 4, 2022 Author Posted November 4, 2022 On 11/3/2022 at 5:08 PM, Ganesh said: Well, i've probably used it for about 30 hours in the last 2 years. But ok, i bought it used and i don't know what my predecessor managed to do in the first few months. Hhmm.., should i just throw it away now? I'm not the guy to throw things away so quickly, especially after the soldering-action we grew together. But if i can't fix it anymore... i just need a reliable button or a new/old FCU. It can't be that impossible, can it? No need to throw away. I am sure we can sort it. There are still a lot of v1s still going strong out there. I was really just more concerned about the batteries after 3 years. Hit me up on the PointCTRL Discord and we can voice. Miles Now shipping up to website Pre-Order Form date 2022/11/15 Pre-Order Form Submission https://pointctrl.com/preorder-form/ PointCTRL Support Discord https://discord.gg/jH5FktJ PintCTRL Website https://pointctrl.com/
QuozL Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 So glad I found this thread and product. Have placed my pre order today, really looking forward to trying this out when my turn arrives. Cheers QuozL i9-10900K CPU @ 3.70GHz, 64GB DDR4 3200, RTX 3090 Ti 24GB GDDR6X, Samsung 970 Evo Plus M2 PCIe SSD, HP Reverb G2 v2 VPC WarBRD, VPC Constellation ALPHA-R, VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle, Logitech Flight Rudder Pedals FC3, A-10C II Tank Killer, F-14 Tomcat Syria, Nevada, Persian Gulf
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