reported Trains aren't activating the triggers

[jef32]

Hi ED !

 

 

 

It seems that the new trains aren't activate triggers in the ME even if you ask them to make it by entering in a trigger zone. I've tried with a road vehicle in the same zone and that runs properly but not with the trains.

 

 

In the same way, trains aren't considered as ennemy by opposite coalition.

Edited October 9, 2018 by jef32

[CHPL]

Try to put a vehicle on the train as a cargo load and activating the Trigger when the vehicle entering the Zone

[jef32]

Effectively I havn't tried but I'm not sure we can do that. I'll try immediatly.

[jef32]

The ME don't allow yet to transport a cargo on a train. It was a good idea but that doesn't work. I've tried with the beta version updated from today but it would be surprising that the issue was fixed so soon. I've just reported yesterday.

[CHPL]

Form behind through the breast into the heart.

 

There is another option.

Set a Waypoint to the position where you will activate the trigger.

Now you can take the Time information from that waypoint to activate the trigger with a "Since FLAG" or "More Time" Trigger:smilewink:

[MasterZelgadis]

Form behind through the breast into the heart.

 

There is another option.

Set a Waypoint to the position where you will activate the trigger.

Now you can take the Time information from that waypoint to activate the trigger with a "Since FLAG" or "More Time" Trigger:smilewink:

 

Well, all of this doesn't fix the bug, does it? ;)

[CHPL]

You are right!

 

But nothing and nobody is perfect, so take the challenge and solve the problem.

 

 

They call my nobody :smilewink:

[Highwayman-Ed]

Adding to this, trains also ignore advanced waypoint actions to 'Hold'

[jef32]

I think ED will finish to fix the bug. If, in the future, an infantry or a cargo can be embarked on the train, all will become possible. The trigger will be activated by the embarked item.

[Loophole]

Sigh.  Still an issue in 2023...

[NineLine]

I'll take a look, but as always adding a track to your report speeds things up. Thanks. 

[NineLine]

All reported, some previously already. 

[Flasher]

Why trains does not trigger the command UNIT IN ZONE or UNIT OUTSIDE ZONE as other units ?

[Panthir]

same issue mate

[Flappie]

User-added trains are detected as they should.

Train detection.trk

[DrWalnuss]

Hello virtual pilots,

I have noticed that when I place a train on the map and drive it into a trigger to trigger the event that spawns troops and vehicles with a trigger, the train does not activate the trigger.

I tried with a car and an airplane and it works fine. Only the train is not recognized.

I would like to use the train for logistics and move materials to the front with the train.

No scripts were used! I hope anyone can help me.

 

Thank you

[Flappie]

 

I'd like to understand why it doesn't work for you. Please attach your mission.

[HungryCoyote]

Tried your trk file and my own mission. Neither works. train_trigger_test.miz

[Flappie]

Thanks. I really have no idea how I got it to work the previous time. This time, I'm unable to make it work, be it with your miz or my track.

Anyway, I did a bit of search: this issue was reported earlier.

 

[Dangerzone]

On 5/29/2023 at 11:47 PM, DrWalnuss said:

Hello virtual pilots,

I have noticed that when I place a train on the map and drive it into a trigger to trigger the event that spawns troops and vehicles with a trigger, the train does not activate the trigger.

I tried with a car and an airplane and it works fine. Only the train is not recognized.

I would like to use the train for logistics and move materials to the front with the train.

No scripts were used! I hope anyone can help me.

 

Thank you

I'm going to be frank here, but my suggestion is to stay away from trains - especially in MP. I've been trying to work with them for years - and have constantly hit issues with them. Over time, some of these issues have been fixed (ie, the train is now visible for others in MP whereas previously in MP - clients weren't able to see a train that was there) which I'm grateful for, but there seems to be other issues that continually pop up where it's more like a game of 'whack a mole' than a flight simulator. 

The trains are neat and I appreciate them in DCS but I think they're one of those items that has proven to be a lot more complicated than ED first anticipated - and since they're a bit of a niche item - 'bits and pieces' get looked into from time to time - but the entire feature itself needs a real good look at which I doubt is going to happen. There's too many other 'higher priorities' that have been in ED's sights for too long. 

That link from Flappy that shows this being one of the issues reported in 2018 still outstanding (and now the thread locked) might give you a bit of an indication of how long it takes for each individual train bug to get attention.

I'm not saying this to have a dig at ED. I can appreciate that DCS has grown to a size where it's really more triage with issues than it is having everything running solid. As a train enthusiast I can still appreciate that train use to this level of scripting are a niche thing and ED have higher priorities to deal with. So my response is more to just be frank with you that I don't recommend you invest the time and energy like I have in the past into something that when you finally do get something working - you find something else breaks it shortly after down the track  (excuse the pun).    

If you really want to implement them anyway - I'd recommend having them as a 'side objective' in your missions that doesn't matter if it doesn't work or is broken so you can have a 'bit of fun' with them, but if they don't work - it's not going to be a showstopper. 

[BIGNEWY]

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