ED approach to Country inventory

[Essah]

Saw these 2 items in the most recent changelog

ME. Added C-130 and F-4E to Iran.

ME. Added missed aircraft and ground units to Serbia.

 

what I don't get is why just C-130 and F-4E?

and why Serbia?

what about the myriad of other states they've included that still have only the inventory units that defaults to be available to all?

what about the inventories of Poland, Czech Republic, Bahrain, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Oman, Belarus, USSR etc. etc. etc.

 

doing just Serbia seems so utterly random.

[NineLine]

Serbian skins were sent in by a user and were able to be added at this time.

[VladMordock]

Serbian skins were sent in by a user and were able to be added at this time.

 

If there is a chance to improve skins availability by including high quality ones prepared by the community, I would suggest to make this information popular or maybe to think about something like "best skin competition" with some symbolic award (free module?).

 

I believe that pulling the community work into the sim would be win-win for both sides and a lot of people are "hungry" for a nice new schemes of their favorites modules. :)

 

It would be nice to see some "evil" paints at USAF Agressors side, especially with tomcat at the door and thousands of Mavericks waiting :smilewink: :

 

[NineLine]

If there is a chance to improve skins availability by including high quality ones prepared by the community, I would suggest to make this information popular or maybe to think about something like "best skin competition" with some symbolic award (free module?).

 

I believe that pulling the community work into the sim would be win-win for both sides and a lot of people are "hungry" for a nice new schemes of their favorites modules. :)

 

It would be nice to see some "evil" paints at USAF Agressors side, especially with tomcat at the door and thousands of Mavericks waiting :smilewink: :

 

 

There has been and some still requested user skins added to the sim. By all means, if an artist feels their skins are worthy of being in the sim, they should send a PM to the likes of Chizh on the forums and point them out.

[Essah]

Serbian skins were sent in by a user and were able to be added at this time.

 

Very good. But that doesn't answer the question why the reminder of the countries inventory isnt being done too. Even just with default skins. What's the point of having Poland in the game if they have no mig29 and f-16 available?

[fargo007]

He just said.... - if you want to put some in, contact the right people and they will take a look.

[Mars Exulte]

Very good. But that doesn't answer the question why the reminder of the countries inventory isnt being done too. Even just with default skins. What's the point of having Poland in the game if they have no mig29 and f-16 available?

 

They do. I've flown it.

[Hog_No32]

They do. I've flown it.

 

You‘ve been able to select a stock F-16 in the sim and flew it? I obviously missed the release of the DCS F-16 then...

 

Kidding aside, what Essah meant was that neither the F-16 nor the MiG29 are available from the list of aircraft assigned to the country „Poland“ in DCS. We know the Polish AF operates both in RL (...hence the complaint).

Edited October 25, 2018 by Hog_No32

[lmp]

Kidding aside, what Essah meant was that neither the F-16 nor the MiG29 are available from the list of aircraft assigned to the country „Poland“ in DCS.

 

They are available for Poland, each with two skins.

[Kang]

I believe not all planes actually have a 'generic' or 'standard' skin to apply to arbitrary countries.

[Dun_Aenghus]

It would be nice if the F-14, F-4, C130, SU-24, etc, was only added to Iran with correct skins provided. Right now IRIAF F-14s are in US Navy colors. I believe a user has already made an exceptional selection of skins for the entire IRIAF fleet. It would be great to see that added.

 

Likewise with skins for UAE F-16s, Saudi Arabia and so on. In the Caucasus, it is possible to represent all of the regional players - proper Turkish, Russian, Ukrainian, Georgian skins. In the Persian Gulf, much of the Iranian opposition is either absent from the faction or flying in U.S. skins.

[Essah]

I would prefer to use Russian/US skins for aircraft with missing defaults rather than not have them available at all

[Napa]

This part of DCS still needs a lot of work.. It is very much incomplete.

[ScopeDope]

What am I doing wrong? I select Iran, C-130, and go to change the skin, only USAF shows up. Same with F4. Open beta. Thought they added IRIAF skins?

[ScopeDope]

This part of DCS still needs a lot of work.. It is very much incomplete.

 

+1. would love a little variety added to AI. Where in the world are the C5 and C141 for that matter. Such icons absent.

[Essah]

The Changelog for the most recent update as of Jan 10 includes this item

• Added P-51D to Greece.
  

 

Why? Why add one aircraft to one nation like this randomly? What about F-16, MiG-29 and Mirage-2000 missing from several Nations as well as the myriad of aircraft and ground units already included in DCS operated by various nations already included in DCS but not available.

 

I don't understand the hotchpotch way this is being done. One update we get P-51 added to Greece. a previous one, we get a handful of aircraft added to Iran because that's suddenly become relevant with the PG map. Meanwhile the rest of the nations deliberately added to DCS by ED are completely ignored. Even Persian Gulf states that you would think would all be relevant now are mostly ignored such as Bahrain, Saudi-Arabia and Kuwait. :huh:

[Rudel_chw]

... Even Persian Gulf states that you would think would all be relevant now are mostly ignored such as Bahrain, Saudi-Arabia and Kuwait. :huh:

 

¿? Saudi Arabia is not ignored:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If a user of DCS is skilled enough, he can offer his skins to ED and they most likely will accept them eagerly, I've seen plenty of examples of that.

[Tiramisu]

Meanwhile the rest of the nations deliberately added to DCS by ED are completely ignored. Even Persian Gulf states that you would think would all be relevant now are mostly ignored such as Bahrain, Saudi-Arabia and Kuwait. :huh:

 

Do not worry my friend! You can change it yourself by editing the db_countries.lua file, which you can find in ...\Country Database\Scripts\Database :smartass:

[Rudel_chw]

Do not worry my friend! You can change it yourself by editing the db_countries.lua file, which you can find in ...\Country Database\Scripts\Database :smartass:

 

That is not a good approach, as you wont be able to play on multiplayer with an edited db_countries ... and any Mission that you edit will be for yourself only, as others wont be able to play it with the standard db_countries.

[Tiramisu]

... and any Mission that you edit will be for yourself only, as others wont be able to play it with the standard db_countries.

 

Thanks for the warning! So does this also affect missions that do not even use any aircraft that are not in the default DB?

[Rudel_chw]

Thanks for the warning! So does this also affect missions that do not even use any aircraft that are not in the default DB?

 

No, only Missions that use the assets of the countries that you have edited. I like to share my missions, so I try to avoid going too far with my moddings :)

 

For example, there was a time when Chile wasn't on the list of countries, and a fellow countryman made a Mod to add it to the db_countries .. .this one: https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/2902176/

 

I used it at first, until I noted that I couldn't share my missions with people that didn't had the Mod. I stopped using then .. but fortunately, the Mod's author sent his Mods details and the work he had done with the unit badges, medals, etc, straight to Andrey Chizh ... and now it is a part of the standard DCS :D

 

Best regards

[NineLine]

The Changelog for the most recent update as of Jan 10 includes this item

• Added P-51D to Greece.
  

 

Why? Why add one aircraft to one nation like this randomly? What about F-16, MiG-29 and Mirage-2000 missing from several Nations as well as the myriad of aircraft and ground units already included in DCS operated by various nations already included in DCS but not available.

 

I don't understand the hotchpotch way this is being done. One update we get P-51 added to Greece. a previous one, we get a handful of aircraft added to Iran because that's suddenly become relevant with the PG map. Meanwhile the rest of the nations deliberately added to DCS by ED are completely ignored. Even Persian Gulf states that you would think would all be relevant now are mostly ignored such as Bahrain, Saudi-Arabia and Kuwait. :huh:

 

Nothing is being ignored, the Greek P-51 could have simply been a user submitted skin, it could be from other content such as a new campaign, etc. PG map assets, skins and such are being worked on.