Any experience with Samsung Odyssey Plus & DCS yet?

[oldmanflan]

I just wanted to follow up and adamantly thank everyone posting in this thread over the past few pages. I was one of those who tried the Samsung Odyssey+ for a few days and got fed up with it, boxed it up and had it ready to be returned. This was after countless hours of adjusting settings in a seemingly futile effort to get it to work at a consistent 45fps without any stuttering/ghosting when I'd turn my head quickly in the cockpit.

 

However, after seeing the suggestions some of you posted, as well as viewing some helpful threads you guys linked to, I now have the SO+ back up and running with a consistent 45fps and no stuttering/ghosting whatsoever.

 

The solution involved doing 5 critical things...

1) Enabling ASW re-projection in the Steam VR beta (Tutorial here: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=220815)

2) Setting MSAA to "OFF" in DCS settings

3) Setting "Anisotropic Filtering to "OFF" in DCS settings

4) In my NVIDIA Control Panel I decreased "Anisotropic Filtering" from 8x to 4x

5) Changing PD to 1.1 (1.2 and up seems to cause framerate drops for me with the 1070ti)

 

 

Now, even with Textures, Terrain Textures and Water all on HIGH, I have consistent 45fps with absolutely no stuttering/ghosting. It's not only made the OS+ usable with DCS, but makes me never want to go back to a flat screen for DCS again.

 

I should also mention that my setup consists of AMD Ryzen 7 2700 CPU, 32GB D4 3000 RAM, NVIDIA GTX 1070ti. The new found performance of the SO+, with the above settings, has even alleviated my desire to make the jump to a 1080ti.

 

I'm a very happy camper. Thanks again!

Edited November 22, 2018 by oldmanflan

[rjetster1]

Now that's the review I wanted to hear!! Thx for posting!

[rrohde]

Same here, still on the fence about tracking though (assuming the Rift's tracking being a great baseline for comparison).

[Cavemanhead]

Great Review here:

 

 

[Wmacky]

Hmmmm. Still unsure......................

 

 

My situation - New to siming, but jumped in in a big way.

 

 

I have a 5K+ coming in a few months (late backer) and I'm using the time to prepare for the ultimate sim experience. So far I have bought...

 

 

Virpil stick, T-50 base, extensions

Virpil Throttle

Slaw Device RX pedals

Gametrix Jetseat with center stick cutout

Sim Lab P1 cockpit

Pimax 5K+

 

 

Still need to update the computer as it's at Rift standards. Need to get

 

 

I7 9700

Motherboard

New GPU 1080ti ? 2080ti?

 

New ram

Flight sim / racing software

Racing hardware - DD drive wheel, pedal shifter etc

Shaker transducers / Amps

 

 

So still a lot to spend. as you see Do I really want to divert funds while waiting for the 5K+? I'm spending a lot but the money was hard to come by. Still $299 for better visuals sounds like a deal....

 

I've been staring at the paypal buy button for 2 days now....

Edited November 22, 2018 by Wmacky

[hansangb]

You can always sell it when it comes. So you're really talking about $150 to $200 now. LOL! :)

[rrohde]

I just took the plunge on the Odyssey+ (might be a nice little HMD to tie me over until the Rift 2 (fingers crossed) or the StarVR One (fingers crossed) comes out).

 

Couldn't resist for that price, as I usually buy anything up to $300 (tax pushed it to 325, but that's ok) without much fuss.

 

Thanks for all the input and reviews, those were super useful.

[TheBamse]

How's the availability on the ody+?

I'll be in the US next week (near DC) and was thinking of maybe picking one up. Are there any online shops with it in stock (Samsung listed that they ship on Dec 16th) that could ship it so I'd have it by next friday at the latest? :)

[Gladman]

Wmacky, I'm also a Pimax backer. I admit to a VR addiction and its part of the reason I bought the Odyssey but my plan, is to sell the Rift, keep the Odyssey for the misses and use the Pimax when it gets here.

[fargo007]

My O+ has already shipped from Samsung. It wasn't supposed to until 11/25 week as stated on the site but I have the text and tracking already, and as of yesterday fedex has it.

[OneSlip]

Fair enough.

 

What was your PD?

 

I set PD on 1.0! It’s definitely improved in visual over rift I won’t argue with that for me comfort and sound just don’t push me over the line to move to new headset yet overall if it’s my first time I would buy SO+ over rift

[wormeaten]

And at 300 dollar it's a bargain. Just not in Europe lol. Hope others will pick up the tech asap

 

 

Not just tech, and prices too. :thumbup:

[trigen]

I set PD on 1.0! It’s definitely improved in visual over rift I won’t argue with that for me comfort and sound just don’t push me over the line to move to new headset yet overall if it’s my first time I would buy SO+ over rift

 

Assuming you got 4x MSAA and 2x SSAA on then? At PD 1 mine would be unplayable with nasty jaggies everywhere

[wormeaten]

Hmmmm. Still unsure......................

 

 

My situation - New to siming, but jumped in in a big way.

 

I have a 5K+ coming in a few months (late backer) and I'm using the time to prepare for the ultimate sim experience. So far I have bought...

 

Ppimax is a great deal if you are backer but it is not worth money they ask for it.

 

You will be satisfied, I'm hoping.

 

Think about to buying one Vive base station for 6DoF tracking. I'm not sure to do you need something else but one Base station is around 100$ new and should work for seating VR without controllers.

 

Track what is going on with this. There must be some report from some of the backer.

Only I'm concern about delivery for you as I didn't see much backers report they got their Pimax5/8K and Christmas is coming closer every day.

[metzger]

How is the FOV of the O+ compared to Rift ?

[Gladman]

I set PD on 1.0! It’s definitely improved in visual over rift I won’t argue with that for me comfort and sound just don’t push me over the line to move to new headset yet overall if it’s my first time I would buy SO+ over rift

 

Yeah, its a preference thing on the PD. I have historically kept it low to maximize the size of enemy air (1.2 usually).

I'll say this, once I upgraded my system (see signature), I about maxed all the settings (Not MSAA of course because it does nothing in VR) and now I run at PD of 2.0. The difference is quite impressive. I mean, its still a Rift so there's limits but the amount of things that I can see is much improved. I assume due to the higher settings more than the PD.

[wormeaten]

Here is some new review about SO+. It is obvious some problems related to comfort could be easily fixed by minor modding and soon we could expect aftermarket product for it.

 

 

[dburne]

How is the FOV of the O+ compared to Rift ?

 

Same.

[fargo007]

I'm breaking mine in after setting it up. My steps after letting it install (you just plug it in and go through a brief setup):

 

1 - Update your graphics card driver. This was the most time consuming part, and could have been done ahead of time.

 

2 - Sign up for Steam.

 

3 - Download Steam VR.

 

4 - In Steam, go to Library, right click steam VR and choose Properties. Select "Betas" on the right. Opt into the steam VR beta.

 

5 - Perform the reprojection driver tweak on page 8 of this thread. (this is necessary, and is a huge improvement)

 

6 - Restart it all.

 

7 - Experiment with your settings as you require. With a 1080ti I did not have to drop MSAA or Anisotropic at all. I did move PD down to 1.3 which really smoothed it out.

 

I'm in phase 7. Most of all these steps can be done before your O+ even arrives, and I'd recommend that.

 

Top three observations:

 

The first thing I noticed, and immediately was the SDE gone, & the colors.

 

Second was the sweet spot. Yes, it's smaller than the Rift's but I wouldn't say by a lot.

 

Third, readability. For me, the gauges in the AC were a bit more readable. Not staggeringly so, but a good 15% here.

 

Fitment - Ask your mom if you were born C section or not. If so, chances are you have a giant punkin' head and this may not fit you so good. My cranium is regular size and I have no issue wearing this. Light bleed for me is different than the rift, but all things considered - equal.

 

Anyway, I started this thread so I thought it was appropriate that I post my own day 1 experiences and a brief guide for the installation steps I took to close the karma loop.

 

/Fargo

Edited November 26, 2018 by fargo007
ETA - forgot to mention the absence of SDE

[rrohde]

Good info, fargo007 - looking forward to trying this on my O+ (currently on backorder).

[Shein]

I did the reprojection thing and I'm still having stuttering / ghosting issues on a 1080ti...

man, it could be anything really at this point

[fargo007]

@Shein - you knock back the pixel density to 1.1-1.3?

 

Play with the settings.

[backspace340]

I did the reprojection thing and I'm still having stuttering / ghosting issues on a 1080ti...

man, it could be anything really at this point

 

Check your settings - turn shadows down to flat, and either have MSAA on 2x and PD on 1.3, or MSAA off and PD on 1.5. That's a playable level with no ghosting or stuttering on my 1080ti. If you have MSAA on 4x, that'll badly affect your frames.

 

If you've got DCS on Steam make sure you're not doubling up on PD - there's supersampling settings in SteamVR that might take effect if you're running DCS on Steam (I don't think they do anything on standalone).

[Buckeye]

Any experience with Samsung Odyssey Plus & DCS yet?

 

Good info, fargo007 - looking forward to trying this on my O+ (currently on backorder).

 

 

 

Should’ve ordered it from the Windows store. I ordered mine on Wednesday and it arrives tomorrow.

 

I originally ordered from the Samsung website, and received a “Ships week of 12/23” notification. Soon thereafter I cancelled that order in favor of this one.

 

 

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[Thick8]

Should’ve ordered it from the Windows store. I ordered mine on Wednesday and it arrives tomorrow.

 

I originally ordered from the Samsung website, and received a “Ships week of 12/23” notification. Soon thereafter I cancelled that order in favor of this one.

 

I waited too long to decide and the Windows store was out of stock. Ship date from Samsung is the week of 12/16. That’s OK as I have the OG to hold me over. Plus I just started playing iRacing. What a killer driving sim.