Sandman1330 Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 I think that makes sense. Getting the disti's all lined up can be a major issue! Hopefully that’s all it is! I plan on buying one of these from a store with a robust return policy (Microsoft store or Amazon), if the performance in DCS isn’t good enough or if there are visual quality issues, I’ll return it and get a Rift S. Ryzen 7 5800X3D / Asus Crosshair VI Hero X370 / Corsair H110i / Sapphire Nitro+ 6800XT / 32Gb G.Skill TridentZ 3200 / Samsung 980 Pro M.2 / Virpil Warbrd base + VFX and TM grips / Virpil CM3 Throttle / Saitek Pro Combat pedals / Reverb G2
sze5003 Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 Hopefully that’s all it is! I plan on buying one of these from a store with a robust return policy (Microsoft store or Amazon), if the performance in DCS isn’t good enough or if there are visual quality issues, I’ll return it and get a Rift S.I too hope they have them at the Microsoft store so I can try it out. Although I don't think that would do me any good if I only intend to use it for DCS. But this way it's only a 5 min drive to return it if it doesn't. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz
John Hargreaves Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 Hands on with HP's Reverb VR Headset! (Not Road To VR) Seems to be the only person on planet Earth that has managed to get one. At least they actually exist. i7-7700K/Gigabyte RTX2080/Win10 64bit/32Gb RAM/Asus Xonar DX+Sennheiser HD380pro headphones/LG 34" UM65 @2560x1080/TM Warthog+VKB MkIV Rudder pedals/Rift CV1
imacken Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 I don't know if hp will be very serious about this headset. They are marketing it more towards businesses with that type of resolution. Don’t see why that should make a difference. You could say the same about Vive and the Vive Pro. Doesn’t stop that being a great - albeit expensive - VR headset in DCS, Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Supmua Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 This was available on Amazon briefly, someone on reddit already has the shipping date. This may be the go to VR headset if you play DCS or sit down sims, since the resolution is very high. PC: 5800X3D/4090, 11700K/3090, 9900K/2080Ti. Joystick bases: TMW, VPC WarBRD, MT50CM2, VKB GFII, FSSB R3L Joystick grips: TM (Warthog, F/A-18C), Realsimulator (F-16SGRH, F-18CGRH), VKB (Kosmosima LH, MCG, MCG Pro), VPC MongoosT50-CM2 Throttles: TMW, Winwing Super Taurus, Logitech Throttle Quadrant, Realsimulator Throttle (soon) VR: HTC Vive/Pro, Oculus Rift/Quest 2, Valve Index, Varjo Aero, https://forum.dcs.world/topic/300065-varjo-aero-general-guide-for-new-owners/
sze5003 Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 The one YouTube preview video that was linked here showed the headset to be very light which is nice but it also seemed smaller than the other headsets. I definitely want to wait until someone tries out DCS with it. I am hoping it would be more comfortable. I am using an odyssey now but plan on selling my rift soon anyway. The odyssey is pretty uncomfortable for long flights. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz
imacken Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 This was available on Amazon briefly, someone on reddit already has the shipping date. This may be the go to VR headset if you play DCS or sit down sims, since the resolution is very high. As has been said several times already, resolution isn’t everything. Other things to consider are SDE, comfort, robustness, tracking ability, etc. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
33-DFTC Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 As has been said several times already, resolution isn’t everything. Other things to consider are SDE, comfort, robustness, tracking ability, etc. If we have to trust the reviews currently online, we already have most of the answers to your questions. The SDE is almost inexistant, the comfort is excellent, the robustness seems on point and the tracking ability while good in seated position could perform better in room scale environment. There are only two types of aircraft, fighters and targets. - Major Doyle "Wahoo" Nicholson, USMC
imacken Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 If we have to trust the reviews currently online, we already have most of the answers to your questions. The SDE is almost inexistant, the comfort is excellent, the robustness seems on point and the tracking ability while good in seated position could perform better in room scale environment. Not sure we’ve seen reviews that have been in depth at all, far less looking at software like DCS. So, I would say we haven’t answered any of the fundamental questions yet. I’m looking forward to finally get some reviews from DCS users on here. With a lot of software (inc some games), SDE isn’t an issue much at the moment even. DCS seems to be particularly good at highlighting it however! Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
John Hargreaves Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 The guys in our tiny niche of the gaming world are interested in very specific things. I have no doubt that the Reverb will be great for any made for VR title. Those games and experiences are all built from the ground up to squeeze every last drop out of VR hardware, from polygon count even down to the choice of colour palette. Thing is we are all into sims that weren't originally built with VR in mind, so the likes of DCS, X-Plane etc struggle for performance compared to bespoke VR titles. That's why we are all clamouring to see tests with the kind of sim software that our community is drawn to, seated physics based simulation experiences, mostly flying and driving.Luckily there are a few wealthy and dedicated members of this community, so the testing we give it will be as robust as anywhere on the net. It's just that we will have to wait for retail release. i7-7700K/Gigabyte RTX2080/Win10 64bit/32Gb RAM/Asus Xonar DX+Sennheiser HD380pro headphones/LG 34" UM65 @2560x1080/TM Warthog+VKB MkIV Rudder pedals/Rift CV1
Harlikwin Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 Supposedly, this ‘Mura effect’ really affects immersion which would be a major blow for DCS. Secondly, take anything HP U.K. or HP US sales says with a pinch of salt, the HP press rep Jim Christiansen says the May 6th launch is worldwide; however, it being 16:00 GMT and the fact no-one has the HMD on sale or even for pre-order fills me with gloom. I read this in a couple of different ways, Mura is an issue, moreso on OLED screens than LCD's incidentally and basically can be corrected by software calibration. Moreover its also specific to each headset. So, we don't really know one way or another whether the issue was specific to the test unit that was sent or not, and if so how prevalent it will be on other headsets, but in any case it should be "fixable" in software (you might have to send it back though). As should the chromatic abberation and pupil swim they mention. And really this may be the cause for the delays. The other "bad" news is the red bleed, but they mention it isn't bad and likely will be scene specific, i.e. scenes with lots of red, so hopefully not a big issue for DCS. On the plus side God rays are less of a problem, which is good news as they do seem to be a bigger issue with the Index. At any rate, I'll wait to see some side-by-sides with current gen headsets and hopefully DCS specific reviews soon. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
Naruto Posted May 7, 2019 Posted May 7, 2019 Unboxing review. Nothing really new here. System specs: Intel i9-9900k OC 5.1Ghz, 32 GB PC3200 G.SKILL TridentZ RGB RAM, Asus Strix 2080 TI OC SLI, Asus Z390 Workstation Pro, 970 EVO 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe and many other SSDs, Alienware 3418DW Widescreen 120 Hz G-Sync Monitor, Corsair H150i PRO RGB CPU Cooler Flightgear: HP Reverb Pro, Samsung Odyssey +, Virpil MongoosT-50CM2 Grip & T-50CM2 Base, TM Warthog, TM TPR Rudder, TM Cougar MFDs, Jetseat, Trackir 5, Sennheiser Game One Headset
Naruto Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 DCS - Through-The-Lens shot! System specs: Intel i9-9900k OC 5.1Ghz, 32 GB PC3200 G.SKILL TridentZ RGB RAM, Asus Strix 2080 TI OC SLI, Asus Z390 Workstation Pro, 970 EVO 1TB M.2 PCIe NVMe and many other SSDs, Alienware 3418DW Widescreen 120 Hz G-Sync Monitor, Corsair H150i PRO RGB CPU Cooler Flightgear: HP Reverb Pro, Samsung Odyssey +, Virpil MongoosT-50CM2 Grip & T-50CM2 Base, TM Warthog, TM TPR Rudder, TM Cougar MFDs, Jetseat, Trackir 5, Sennheiser Game One Headset
Ishbob88 Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 DCS - Through-The-Lens shot! Not sure that's doing it justice. Those textures look to be on low based on how muddled some of the textures are but still in focus. Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk
Soma888 Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 Are there any updates as to when it’s meant to ship? Website still has May 6.
sze5003 Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 Not sure that's doing it justice. Those textures look to be on low based on how muddled some of the textures are but still in focus. Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using TapatalkUnfortunately we will have to rely on people here that got one and have also used the odyssey/odyssey+ or Vive pro to make the comparison. Anything through the lense isn't going to be native of what you will be seeing in person. No video or picture is going to do it justice because it's not as simple as looking at a 1440p monitor vs a 4k monitor. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz
Callsign.Vega Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 GPU: RTX 4090 - 3,000 MHz core / 12,000 MHz VRAM. CPU: 7950X3d - 5.2 GHz X3d, 5.8 GHz secondary / MB: ASUS Crosshair X670E Gene / RAM: G.Skill 48GB 6400 MHz SSD: Intel Optane P5800X - 800GB VR: Pimax Crystal CONTROLS: VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Base / VPC Constellation ALPHA Prime Grip / VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle / TM Pendular Rudders
wormeaten Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 Not sure that's doing it justice. Those textures look to be on low based on how muddled some of the textures are but still in focus. Sent from my Pixel 3 XL using Tapatalk Unfortunately, I never see proper feedback or review from any member on the DCS community. Most of the people who buy some of the HMD keep it for them self after they buy it. That is the only proper video with impression for some of this HMD from people in this community. Other games communities are more fruitful with such feedback.
sze5003 Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 Unfortunately, I never see proper feedback or review from any member on the DCS community. Most of the people who buy some of the HMD keep it for them self after they buy it. That is the only proper video with impression for some of this HMD from people in this community. Other games communities are more fruitful with such feedback.This is somewhat true. I remember when I got the odyssey I did a long write up comparison between the Odyssey and rift on the Reddit hoggit subforum. Lots of people responded and asked some questions which was nice because it helped some of them make up their minds. Hopefully this will change and we will actually get something once these headsets start shipping out. The thing I'm excited about is how comfortable the reverb may be because my Odyssey is pretty uncomfortable. As long as the optics are better I'll be happy assuming we can run it without having a slideshow. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz
dburne Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 This is somewhat true. I remember when I got the odyssey I did a long write up comparison between the Odyssey and rift on the Reddit hoggit subforum. Lots of people responded and asked some questions which was nice because it helped some of them make up their minds. Hopefully this will change and we will actually get something once these headsets start shipping out. The thing I'm excited about is how comfortable the reverb may be because my Odyssey is pretty uncomfortable. As long as the optics are better I'll be happy assuming we can run it without having a slideshow. In DCS, that will be the big question. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
Sniper175 Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 So basically if you can run odyssey + at 2.5 pixel density you should be good with the reverb. Either way graphics settings will be so low on the reverb, the maybe little improved clarity won’t be worth how ugly dcs will look to just get playable frame rates. Higher the res the more the jaggies stick out anyway as the screens are in your face. I7-8700 @5GHZ, 32GB 3000MHZ RAM, 1080TI, Rift S, ODYSSEY +. SSD DRIVES, WIN10
sze5003 Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 So basically if you can run odyssey + at 2.5 pixel density you should be good with the reverb. Either way graphics settings will be so low on the reverb, the maybe little improved clarity won’t be worth how ugly dcs will look to just get playable frame rates. Higher the res the more the jaggies stick out anyway as the screens are in your face.I run my regular odyssey at 1.5 PD and it's smooth for gameplay. Anything higher I think DCS has issues and starts getting slow. It doesn't look like the rift S would be better for anyone that already has an odyssey and won't be happy with the power requirements of the reverb. But of course we shouldn't assume and just wait and see what others say. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz
Harlikwin Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 So basically if you can run odyssey + at 2.5 pixel density you should be good with the reverb. Either way graphics settings will be so low on the reverb, the maybe little improved clarity won’t be worth how ugly dcs will look to just get playable frame rates. Higher the res the more the jaggies stick out anyway as the screens are in your face. Not sure how you are doing the math on that. A rift a PD 2.0 is pushing more pixels than a reverb 2160x2400 per eye vs 2160x2160. A odyssey + at 2.5PD would be: 3600x4150 PER EYE vs the HP at 2160x2160... So if you can run a odyssey + at 2.5PD you should be able to run the HP with ZERO issues. Given that the whole point of supersampling is to reduce ailiasing caused by lower res displays you should have a pretty nice image at PD 1.0 with the HP. Plus you don't have the adittional overhead from downsampling the the SS image back down to whatever the headset resolution is. All that being said I think a 2160 class display will tax DCS for sure, but I think it should be doable. Especially if we get that 50% VR improvement. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
Sniper175 Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 Not sure how you are doing the math on that. A rift a PD 2.0 is pushing more pixels than a reverb 2160x2400 per eye vs 2160x2160. A odyssey + at 2.5PD would be: 3600x4150 PER EYE vs the HP at 2160x2160... So if you can run a odyssey + at 2.5PD you should be able to run the HP with ZERO issues. Given that the whole point of supersampling is to reduce ailiasing caused by lower res displays you should have a pretty nice image at PD 1.0 with the HP. Plus you don't have the adittional overhead from downsampling the the SS image back down to whatever the headset resolution is. All that being said I think a 2160 class display will tax DCS for sure, but I think it should be doable. Especially if we get that 50% VR improvement. Its not exact math on my part nor was it meant to be. Its the basis of basically what you just said. i dont see high graphics settings flying low over trees with no issues with the reverb I7-8700 @5GHZ, 32GB 3000MHZ RAM, 1080TI, Rift S, ODYSSEY +. SSD DRIVES, WIN10
Harlikwin Posted May 8, 2019 Posted May 8, 2019 Its not exact math on my part nor was it meant to be. Its the basis of basically what you just said. i dont see high graphics settings flying low over trees with no issues with the reverb I'm running a rift at PD 2.0 and its stable and smooth at 45 for me. New hotness: I7 9700k 4.8ghz, 32gb ddr4, 2080ti, :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, HP Reverb (formermly CV1) Old-N-busted: i7 4720HQ ~3.5GHZ, +32GB DDR3 + Nvidia GTX980m (4GB VRAM) :joystick: TM Warthog. TrackIR, Rift CV1 (yes really).
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