USAF & USN Aircraft

[mytai01]

USAF

 

F-100 Super Saber

F-102 Delta Dagger

F-104 Starfigher

F-105 Thunder Chief

F-106 Delta Dart

F-111 Aardvark

 

USN

 

F-8 Crusader

F-4B/N/J/S Phantom II

A-1 Skyraider

A-4 Skyhawk

A-6 Intruder

A-7 Corsair II

[jmarso]

Aside from the Tomcat and Hornet, my next choice for a USN tactical jet would be the A-7E Corsair- one of my favorite 'cold war' era jets.

 

Followed closely by the F-4 Phantom, and a map of Vietnam / Yankee Station. Git some.

[upyr1]

In the Air Force list you need to add the F-110 Specter it's very similar to the F-4H Phantom II

[Northstar98]

For me as far as USN goes

 

Fixed Wing:

• McDonald Douglas F-4J/S Phantom II
  
• LTV A-7E Corsair II
  
• Grumman A-6E Intruder (perhaps adding KA-6D and EA-6B Prowler as AI assets) Heatblur are doing an A-6E as an AI asset.
  
• Lockheed P-3C Orion (at least to update II standard, as AI asset)
  

 

Rotary Wing:

 

• Kaman SH-2D/F Seasprite
  
• Sikorsky SH-3D/H Sea King
  
• Sikorsky SH-60B/F Sea/Oceanhawk /MH-60R Seahawk (the last is probably too difficult to get information on, so if a MH-60R was to be developed it would probably be best tomake it an AI asset instead of a full fidelity module).
  

Edited June 30, 2019 by Northstar98

[Buzzles]

Half of the USN list is in background development afaik. There's a Phantom in the works too, but unless it's changed, was an USAF version.

[Silver_Dragon]

USAF

 

F-100 Super Saber

F-102 Delta Dagger

F-104 Starfigher

F-105 Thunder Chief

F-106 Delta Dart

F-111 Aardvark

 

USN

 

F-8 Crusader

F-4B/N/J/S Phantom II

A-1 Skyraider

A-4 Skyhawk

A-6 Intruder

A-7 Corsair II

 

F-8 Crusader on Progress by Magnitude3

F-4E Block 43 on progress by ED

A-6/KA-6 AI unit by Heatblur, can be plans to a module.

A-7E in progress by RAZBAM.

[joey45]

In the Air Force list you need to add the F-110 Specter it's very similar to the F-4H Phantom II

 

It's one of the original names of the aircraft..

[jojyrocks]

Having an internal cannon focus or ability to at least gunfight. Gunpods carrying ability are also good too.

 

USAF

 

- F-4 Phantom ii series with gun and the other naval version with gun pods. (I know the F-4E is in the works...still would love it if they added at least a Naval version to go with it as F 4 was originally build and designed for the Navy.

 

-F-104

-F-105

-F-100

 

USN

 

- A-7 series

- A-4 Skyhawk - (I know a mod exists, but its not the same as full module)

-F-8 ( Yeah..its in the works too).

-T-45 Goshhawk

[mytai01]

In the Air Force list you need to add the F-110 Specter it's very similar to the F-4H Phantom II

 

The F-110 isn't a different aircraft from the F-4. The then SecDef, Robert McNamara, instituted Aircraft Redesignations in 1962. Prior to the re-designation, the Navy and Air Force each had their own way of designating aircraft and they were different from each other. McNamara wanted to have all services follow the same designation policy and ordered all services to follow the same policy. This caused all Navy aircraft to adopt new designations. Also, since the Navy developed the Phantom, they also got to name it. As such, the Air Force was forced to keep the F-4 Phantom designation, but since theirs were slightly different from the Navy's F-4B version, they could call them F-4C. So, the USAF F-4C is the same aircraft that the Air Force wanted to call F-110A Specter, prior to the Secretary of Defense's military aircraft designation policy change in 1962.

[upyr1]

Half of the USN list is in background development afaik. There's a Phantom in the works too, but unless it's changed, was an USAF version.

It is the F-4E. The airframe would be the most dissimilar to any Navy version as the nose was redesigned to accommodate the gun and late model F-4Es had leading-edge slats that IIRC the only Navy Phantom to have them was the F-4S.

I'm not sure what time frame the F-4 we are getting will be modeled for, my first assumption would be a linebacker era or even a slightly post Vietnam so it would be contemporary with the MiG-21 Bis.

I'd assume it would be a bit easier to convert the upcoming F-4E into other F-4 variants than it would be to start a new. I could be wrong- but each of the models would present their own challenge.

 

 

 

The F-4G and F-4F would be the easiest in terms of flight model since they were either originally Es or based on the E. The biggest change would be avionics with the F we'd have to decide if you'd want the visual range only incarnation or some super Phantom upgrade like the ice.

If there is enough information publicly available I'd love the Weasel.

 

The B, C and D would be the closest in terms of the airframe to each other. Depending on the block modeled I believe the D would be the closest to the E in terms of avionics, so the conversion would depend on how much you would have to change to model the nose and leading edge slats.

I believe the biggest difference with the B and C would be refueling and back seat controls.

 

The F-4J lacked the Chin pod and had improved avionics over the B

Then with the K and M, they are basically the J with a new engine and avionics changes.

 

I believe Belsim tech is currently working on the F-4 so I hope they will be able to licenses and help work on Jester AI as I'd rather have one standard AI WSO since that might increase the odds things will get patched.

A Vietnam era asset pack may help make the conversion easier depending on how accurate the AI flight models are.

[upyr1]

It's one of the original names of the aircraft..

Its the original Air Force designation. I also tossed in the F4H as well since it is my smart alec way to ask for the C or D. The D was the version the USAF used the most during the Vietnam era. The E started to enter service towards the end of Rolling Thunder

Edited July 1, 2019 by upyr1

[upyr1]

The F-110 isn't a different aircraft from the F-4. The then SecDef, Robert McNamara, instituted Aircraft Redesignations in 1962. Prior to the re-designation, the Navy and Air Force each had their own way of designating aircraft and they were different from each other. McNamara wanted to have all services follow the same designation policy and ordered all services to follow the same policy. This caused all Navy aircraft to adopt new designations. Also, since the Navy developed the Phantom, they also got to name it. As such, the Air Force was forced to keep the F-4 Phantom designation, but since theirs were slightly different from the Navy's F-4B version, they could call them F-4C. So, the USAF F-4C is the same aircraft that the Air Force wanted to call F-110A Specter, prior to the Secretary of Defense's military aircraft designation policy change in 1962.

 

 

I know all that. I am trying to be funny. Though seriously I would like a Navy F-4 of some sort and an F-4D and if possible an F-4G.

[Raisuli]

I've noticed most of these lists cluster around one time frame, and over-populate that era with virtually every air frame that flew...for the US. Probably a coincidence. :music_whistling:

 

- Me-109E3 (dance partner for the I-16)

- Full-Fidelity Su-27/33 (to keep the 14s and 18s and upcoming 16s entertained) if that's even a possibility.

 

- F8 - for those lonely MiG-21s out there. The F5 is a good partner, though it could use a SLEP program.

 

 

F4 - Perfect early/mid cold war ride (until the teen jets took over), but we're pretty short on Soviet iron to keep her amused. Over 5,000 of these little beasts were made, so there are a few hours of flight time to catch up.

 

 

Personally I'd love to see the F-15C full fidelity, but there's an insane amount of work required to put a DCS quality aircraft on the ramp. If I'm wishing, I'm going to wish for air frames that can be leveraged to the most good in the least amount of modules. The budget, in terms of person-hours doing research, graphics, and code is finite.

[Silver_Dragon]

I believe Belsim tech is currently working on the F-4 so I hope they will be able to licenses and help work on Jester AI as I'd rather have one standard AI WSO since that might increase the odds things will get patched.

 

BSK was work from 2017 on a crew AI detection logic and more functionality, first coming on the Mi-24P, surely after will be included on the F-4E.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=3341529

 

Has the same situation with the carrier crew, live deck and more on carrier naval modules.

[Harlikwin]

USAF

 

F-100 Super Saber

F-102 Delta Dagger

F-104 Starfigher

F-105 Thunder Chief

F-106 Delta Dart

F-111 Aardvark

 

USN

 

F-8 Crusader

F-4B/N/J/S Phantom II

A-1 Skyraider

A-4 Skyhawk

A-6 Intruder

A-7 Corsair II

 

As other have said. Most of the USN side is under development one way or another.

 

F8J M3

F4E Yeah non navy I know. Supposedly 80's era version ED/BST

A4 there is already the community A4 mod out now.

A6 suppsedly heatblur, will probably be 80's ish era

A7E by Razbam at some point.

Mig23MLA by Razabam too at some point (before the A7 at a guess)

F14A (hopefully soon) 80's version IIRC

 

Pretty much none of the 100 series are under any planned development.

 

Given the overall "focus" on more "modern" stuff, most modules are gonna be more 80's/90's than 60's/70's.

 

Given that focus, I think the VN era is gonna be hard to do, unless its fictional 80's era Redux

[upyr1]

I've noticed most of these lists cluster around one time frame, and over-populate that era with virtually every air frame that flew...for the US. Probably a coincidence. :music_whistling:

 

 

The Vietnam era tends to be a popular choice on the list. I know my list of flyable AC are the following in any order.

 

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USAF

 

F-4D (I was hinting at this with the F-110 joke)

F-4E

F-4G

F-105

F-105G

F-100

F-84

F-80

A-26

P-47

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USN

F-4B

F-4J

A-7

A-6

A-1

F9F

FH Phantom or F2H Banshee

FJ and F4J

F4U

F4F

F6F

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RAF/FAA

Canberra- if it is some version that was also used by the USAF even better

Hunter Hawker

BEA Hawk (can someone take that one over?)

Tornado ADV and IDS

Meteor

Blackburn Buccaneer

Sea Harrier

F-4K/M Phantom FGR

Swordfish

Hawker Typhoon

Jaguar

----Germany-----

F-104

F-4F

Tornado ECR

Me-262

Foker FG1 - get some World War I

------USSR/Russia--------

Su-24

Su-7

Su-22

MiG-17

MiG-27

MiG-25 and 31 if possible

Su-15

Su-9

--------China-----

J-8 (weird mutant MiG-21)

Q-5

if Possible the JH-7

J-10 if possible

 

----------France-------------

Dassault Mystère

Super Entendard

Mirage III and 5

----Japan-----

Zero

Mitsubishi F-1

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