Wish List

[GGTharos]

It was never about giving the other guy a fair fight. NEVER.

Whether through superior machines, tactics, teamwork, number, and/or surprise/ambush it was always about making it an unfair as possible for the other guy, and thus guaranteeing your own victory.

 

FC2 provides you with a great deal of more fairness than the real world ever will.

 

Being pilot thro history was about to have honor in first place, to give opportunity to oponent for fair fight.

Edited May 4, 2010 by GGTharos

[Boberro]

I really wait to see that what new patch for 2.0 brings to us after you crippled Russian planes totally, specially SU 27 and SU 33 which are mostly useless in your measure of so-called "realism" After that if stays the same I will quit flying LO forever. You "promo" for platinum editon is AGAIN filled with F-15 and A-10 in first place as something "superior" Are they really?

 

Su-27S are hmmm maybe not wrecks but old. I agree in movie there should be more another planes, FTW only few seconds for Frog... :C

 

Is that a reason you dont allow active missiles to SU 27 and SU 33 as inpropriate???

 

Hmmm I didn't know real grandpa like Su-27S can engage target via active missiles. ;)

 

I must say I expected much more from ED as someone who has more then 500 flying hours in LO per year for last 4 years (which is much much more then any pilots i know) and as leader of 45 member (pilots) squadron. I didn't expect you will make wishes come true only for half of community, and totaly ignore people which flying Russian planes.

 

ED made wishes for those who want more realism in game.

 

 

I didn't post here to say any wish coz I dont believe you will want to hear any. I wanted to say, I am very dissopointed after I dedicated 4 years of my life to LO. One buddy from one known squadron said to me soon: I love to fly and F 15 and SU's, but when I fly F 15 and other ppl fly SU's, they cant enjoy this game anymore. If they can't anymore, I can't enjoy too. I can't fly alone. He chellanged anyone of F 15 pilots to fly against him with SU 27. Nobody accepted, guess why????? So ED ppl, think again before you break a part this small community. Think again where this leads to.

 

I doubt if real Su-27S pilot would be happy flying against F-15C, so why LO pilot should be?

 

I've said whats on my mind and whats in my heart. With 2.0 you bring to community ultimatum. Fly superior F 15 with incredable AIM 120C almighty or DIE and be sitting duck. All your promo's and pics screaming that. Since I don't want to fly F 15, I guess this game is over for me forever.

 

As everyone you have right to say whatever you think :) Finally we have good 120C as it should have been done long time ago. I agree in pictures area. In FC 2.0 there is too much F-15 pics in menus. Where are Su-33, Su-25T?, A-10, Su-27 (one pic LOL) and rest planes.

And for the end, maybe I have one wish after all I saw lately, which is unique and impossible. Bring back old good 1.12 to us, because I forget how is to have fun. I would raither play Sims with my lil daughter then be downgraded for mighty rangers noobs spammers in F 15. Wish ya all best

 

Hope this won't happen, due to known reasons :]

[Witchking]

My wishlist for the next FC patch or somehting... fix the missile smoke trails. How come it has been made sooo light? Most RL videos of missile trails have dense thick smoke trails, FC1's smoke was looking closer to RL than FC2.

[pilot_dc]

Haven't seen it said yet:

 

AWACS calling an actual picture with Bullseye. Bullseye info on the radar. Ability to command wingman to sort, and STAY IN FORMATION while he shoots etc.

[JG-1_Vogel]

Haven't seen it said yet:

 

AWACS calling an actual picture with Bullseye. Bullseye info on the radar. Ability to command wingman to sort, and STAY IN FORMATION while he shoots etc.

 

I second that! Annoying as hell not having a functional bullseye...

[pilot_dc]

Oh yeah, and AIM-9X for the F-15C

[kingneptune117]

no wing vapor when turning hard?

 

Why not?

[ScEBlack1]

There is on my bird.

[GaryIKILLYOU]

Maybe you're not :D doing it hard enough...:D

[kingneptune117]

wait wtf there is?

[Dr_Watson]

Seems to take 6g for it to appear, would be better if it was a little less, 6g is quite a lot, especially with a full load.

[kingneptune117]

can someone take a screenshot so i can see this?

[EtherealN]

Here you go, check attachements.

Edited May 12, 2010 by EtherealN

[EtherealN]

Seems to take 6g for it to appear, would be better if it was a little less, 6g is quite a lot, especially with a full load.

 

Better according to what criteria? I don't think FC2 actually takes atmospheric conditions into account for this while real-life does (indeed, in some conditions you can get them even at 1g).

[kingneptune117]

oh no no no not that. Im talking about this.

 

http://www.schultzairshows.com/f15-vapor.jpg

 

thats not the vapor that appears below the sound barrier, either. that appears when pulling lots of G at high speeds.

 

 

go to 2:00

 

As you can see when he pulls G at high speeds his wings are covered with vapor.

[EtherealN]

Actually, that's the same thing as what happens at the wingtips, technically speaking (but with different geometry).

 

And it's not technically vapour. That's clouds. (Pressure drops to the point where the air can no longer carry the water as vapor, and clouds form, further from the aircraft pressure equalizes back and the air re-absorbs the water.)

 

But no. That's not modelled. The wingtip thing is, as far as I know, a scripted thing to display the most common visual manifestation of all the various tricks the air plays around an aerofoil at high loading/AoA, but do remember that it's not really the G's themselves that are doing it. Going to a high-load scenario rather has the common effect of tweaking various shockwaves and their related low-pressure zones to cause cloud generation.

Edited May 12, 2010 by EtherealN

[Boberro]

Su-25 can do vapor only in high speed.... in real life youtube videos it does even just after take off.... also their wings are "fluttering" when flying - in LO neither vapor nor flutter.

[Pilotasso]

Actually, that's the same thing as what happens at the wingtips, technically speaking (but with different geometry).

 

And it's not technically vapour. That's clouds. (Pressure drops to the point where the air can no longer carry the water as vapor, and clouds form, further from the aircraft pressure equalizes back and the air re-absorbs the water.)

 

But no. That's not modelled. The wingtip thing is, as far as I know, a scripted thing to display the most common visual manifestation of all the various tricks the air plays around an aerofoil at high loading/AoA, but do remember that it's not really the G's themselves that are doing it. Going to a high-load scenario rather has the common effect of tweaking various shockwaves and their related low-pressure zones to cause cloud generation.

 

 

Its more like this. Air pressure has 2 components:

1-dry air pressure

2-vapour pressure

 

When air passes over an airfoil of an aircraft at a high pronouced angle of attack, the gas speed at the leading edge accelerates suddenly and by the Bernoulli equation the static pressure drops, making the vapor pressure superimpose that of dry ar becoming visible by naked eye. Other way to explain is that title of water vapour changes as static gas pressure drops.

 

What you described above happens during precipitation which is a different phenomenae. (occurs at the saturation limit) :)

Edited May 12, 2010 by Pilotasso

[EtherealN]

From what I recall it's the same thing that happens, but caused by different input - for example you can have the same thing happen inside an air-operated pump (though in that case it's much more fun to study the temperature effects since the pressure changes are radical enough that some really neat things happen).

 

Have a math example of the difference, as you see it?

[Teknetinium]

Is a technical problem the cause there is no condensed air mod?

 

Stop hijacking the thread whit your RL.

We should ask some 3D modelers to make it reality in game ;)

Edited May 12, 2010 by Teknetinium

[EtherealN]

Teknetinium - the big question is: apply it to more places based on what? AoA? IAS? Mach? I don't think any such mod would ever be able to do more than add a texture, and due to the visibility effects such stuff might have there is a case to be made that it would be a cheat online.

[Pouka]

AdA Mod V2 (which is still WIP) is planning to do it I think. You could see it on several promotionnal videos. :smilewink:

[3Sqn_Sven]

I asked about this a few years back, it just wasn't anywhere near the top of the "To Do" lists. The effect itself is as has been stated above, dependent on a lot of atmospherics. But it would be cool.

[Luse]

Couldn't you LUA base it? Such as. At a certain AoA with the right QFE ( Pressure ) Settings you would get wingtip vapor.

 

Just an idea

[NRG-Vampire]

Why not?

 

On fuselage ? No, since Flanker2 :cry:

 

BTW: its an old story and topic

here:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?p=215704#post215704

 

Check the Pix :thumbup: