Anton vs Dora

[dresoccer4]

hi all. i've had the Dora for years and its one of my favorite modules. recently I saw another Fw 190 was released (Anton), that I believe is an earlier model of the same plane? is there a comparison somewhere of the differences between the two, and if it's worth buying an entire new module for what looks like a very similar bird?

 

thanks for any info, just a little confused about the reasoning behind this.

[Magic Zach]

I personally think it's worth it. It looks beautiful, and is I think the heaviest hitter, more than the 109 (because that 30mm is a pain to land). It's slower, but that doesn't mean it's not fun. And because of its armament, it's really potent in the ground attack role.

[Mr_sukebe]

In comparison the Anton:

- no MW50

- slower than the Dora, even ignoring MW50

- heavier, which affects manoeuvring

- better armed with 2 more cannons

- changed interior. It’s mostly the same, but the electrical panel is more complex and there are other minor differences

 

Personally, I like the A8, if for no other reason than it being a more suitable adversary for the Spit and Mustang that we have in game. As it’s half price, just do it

[grafspee]

A-8 vs D-9 is like spit MK V vs MK IX

[xvii-Dietrich]

Yes, the A8 has 4x 20mm cannons (vs 2x on the D9). But from a ground attack perspective, I consider the D9 more versatile than the A8. The D9 has more/better bomb options and it can take rockets too. The extra speed helps. See also this thread: https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=246250 . In the absence of any Rüstsätze kits to the A-8 (or the F-8 variant), I personally prefer the D-9.

 

One other point regarding the A8 is that it is historically correct place/timewise for use on the July 1944 Normandy map, in case that matters to you.

[LeCuvier]

The Anton is a fairly different bird. I find it more suitable in the ground attack role due its incredible fire power and more stable flight behaviour. It's easier to fly a straight line to the ground target than the Dora. On the other hand, it is hardly able to defend itself against enemy fighters and it's too slow to run or climb away. Still I love to fly it.

[Paganus]

This aircraft should shine after the new damage model is in, and it gets more ground attack weapons. It's better armored and has a radial engine, so it won't be as vulnerable.

 

The same way the P-47 will be better than the Mustang at surviving Ground attack missions.

 

You would not have seen a D9 or the 109-K4 defending against the Normandy invasion because they were not in the field then, and both models were intended more for A2A.

[nervousenergy]

Late to the discussion, but I thought that, historically, the A8 also served in the anti-bomber role. Am I mis-remembering that?

[grafspee]

Late to the discussion, but I thought that, historically, the A8 also served in the anti-bomber role. Am I mis-remembering that?

 

It could do that but, A8 at 25k ft has not much left in power departament.

[MrExplosion]

It's a sad affair.

 

 

The A8 feels half way finished and instead of adding the possiblites to carry 500kg bombs or rockets (which shouldnt be hard at all, since they r alrdy present in the game), ED rather nerfs the ammo loadout.

 

 

 

I wouldn't buy the A8 in it's current state.

[amazingme]

It's a sad affair.

 

 

The A8 feels half way finished and instead of adding the possiblites to carry 500kg bombs or rockets (which shouldnt be hard at all, since they r alrdy present in the game), ED rather nerfs the ammo loadout.

 

 

 

I wouldn't buy the A8 in it's current state.

 

The Spit needs some cannon fodder, so.. there you go.

[lee1hy]

D9 is old moudle but perfermance, weapon is better then A8

 

and more beauful

 

go D9

[DD_Fenrir]

The Spit needs some cannon fodder, so.. there you go.

 

ED ANTI-LUFTWAFFE CONSPIRACY CONFIRMED!!!!! :shocking:

[Magic Zach]

ED ANTI-LUFTWAFFE CONSPIRACY CONFIRMED!!!!! :shocking:

But seriously, we're getting a 262 at the end of this tunnel. And I really hope a G-6 or maybe even G-14 eventually. I'm not a fan of the Kurfürst, it's just such a no-skill fighter, and feels nasty when I fly it. But to have a Gustav, I'd actually love that like I love the Anton.

[grafspee]

It's a sad affair.

 

 

The A8 feels half way finished and instead of adding the possiblites to carry 500kg bombs or rockets (which shouldnt be hard at all, since they r alrdy present in the game), ED rather nerfs the ammo loadout.

 

 

 

I wouldn't buy the A8 in it's current state.

 

Nah, Fw 190 A8 is modeled very good, for weapons we have to wait, ED is quite occupy to finish P-47 probably and New DM it require a lot of work.

[grafspee]

But seriously, we're getting a 262 at the end of this tunnel. And I really hope a G-6 or maybe even G-14 eventually. I'm not a fan of the Kurfürst, it's just such a no-skill fighter, and feels nasty when I fly it. But to have a Gustav, I'd actually love that like I love the Anton.

 

G-6 with MW50 or G-14 yes :)

[amazingme]

hi all. i've had the Dora for years and its one of my favorite modules. recently I saw another Fw 190 was released (Anton), that I believe is an earlier model of the same plane? is there a comparison somewhere of the differences between the two, and if it's worth buying an entire new module for what looks like a very similar bird?

 

thanks for any info, just a little confused about the reasoning behind this.

 

Go for Dora, if you master this true energy fighter then you can handle any other plane in DCS. She will teach you how to behave.

I don't know why they went for the A-8 (and F-8) though, maybe if somebody could enlighten us, that'd be great.

[Magic Zach]

It was the most produced Anton variant, and was a prominent ground attacker after the Stuka was phased out. I dont think we need any more reason that that.

[DD_Fenrir]

I don't know why they went for the A-8 (and F-8) though, maybe if somebody could enlighten us, that'd be great.

 

:doh:

 

Seriously?!?!?

 

1. NORMANDY

2. HISTORICAL ACCURACY

 

:huh:

Edited February 26, 2020 by DD_Fenrir

[DD_Fenrir]

G-6 with MW50 or G-14 yes :)

 

Agreed, 1,000,000%.

[amazingme]

:doh:

 

Seriously?!?!?

 

1. NORMANDY

2. HISTORICAL ACCURACY

 

:huh:

 

Mhm.. So ED has all the data they need to accurately model it, isn't it?

[MrExplosion]

Nah, Fw 190 A8 is modeled very good, for weapons we have to wait, ED is quite occupy to finish P-47 probably and New DM it require a lot of work.

 

 

Yes, the model is very nice.

 

 

But playing it at the moment, it feels like a "castrate" with core features like MW-50 and proper weapon loadouts missing. Like wtf are you gonna with it? :joystick:

[grafspee]

Yes, the model is very nice.

 

 

But playing it at the moment, it feels like a "castrate" with core features like MW-50 and proper weapon loadouts missing. Like wtf are you gonna with it? :joystick:

 

Im not sure if A8 was running mw50

[DD_Fenrir]

Yes, the model is very nice.

 

 

But playing it at the moment, it feels like a "castrate" with core features like MW-50 and proper weapon loadouts missing. Like wtf are you gonna with it? :joystick:

 

It has been fairly comprehensively proved that the Fw 190 A-8 was never fitted operationally with MW-50.

 

Proper loadouts, yes, I agree, are overdue.

 

Play historically accurate match-ups against Spitfires on the Normandy map is what you do with it.

 

 

As a side note, what the hell is it with the top-trumps crowd in this place? Did y'all just pile in from War Thunder? "I pay to win bro, why should I spend $$$ on a worse plane?"

 

:huh:

[amazingme]

It has been fairly comprehensively proved that the Fw 190 A-8 was never fitted operationally with MW-50.

 

 

 

Proper loadouts, yes, I agree, are overdue.

 

 

 

Play historically accurate match-ups against Spitfires on the Normandy map is what you do with it.

 

 

 

 

 

As a side note, what the hell is it with the top-trumps crowd in this place? Did y'all just pile in from War Thunder? "I pay to win bro, why should I spend $$$ on a worse plane?"

 

 

 

:huh:

Now you finally understand where I'm standing.. ED chose a castrated 190 A8 instead of a 109 G6.. I would never understand.. probably to satisfy some egos. Probably..

 

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