unlikely_spider Posted July 24, 2020 Posted July 24, 2020 Yep that 3080ti will be pricey. Especially if you need to swap out other components too. I recently read some article where it said the 3080ti needs a more powerful psu connector, could be a 12pin instead of 8. So for some people that have modular psu's I guess you add another cable if you have the room and ability. Otherwise you may need another psu. Not so expensive in reality but it's always a pain to swap out psu's. That is weird. Why wouldn't they just use two 6 pin connectors? Most higher-end PSUs I've used recently have two 6+2 connectors. Modules: Wright Flyer, Spruce Goose, Voyager 1
sze5003 Posted July 24, 2020 Posted July 24, 2020 That is weird. Why wouldn't they just use two 6 pin connectors? Most higher-end PSUs I've used recently have two 6+2 connectors.I'm guessing we can still use a 6+2 as that is what I've always seen as well. So you would need 3 6+2 pin connectors. I just hope it fits in my mid size atx case. If I end up having to buy a new case because it's a much beefier card than my ROG strix 1080ti, I might as well just rebuild with a newer CPU/memory and Mobo. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz
X-31_VECTOR Posted July 24, 2020 Posted July 24, 2020 (edited) I'm guessing we can still use a 6+2 as that is what I've always seen as well. So you would need 3 6+2 pin connectors. I just hope it fits in my mid size atx case. If I end up having to buy a new case because it's a much beefier card than my ROG strix 1080ti, I might as well just rebuild with a newer CPU/memory and Mobo. I've read mixed opinions on the 12-pin connector (some sources say it is confirmed at least for Founder's Edition cards, others say it will go to computer OEMs only). It's designed to deliver up to something crazy like 600W (the card is supposed to draw in the 300-350 range i think?), but all the pins are still just 12V and ground. So an adapter to go from a pair of 8-pins would seem like a reasonable expectation unless the power draw on these cards really is bonkers. Edit: And come to think of it, 300-350W is bonkers. Edited July 24, 2020 by X-31_VECTOR
sze5003 Posted July 24, 2020 Posted July 24, 2020 I've read mixed opinions on the 12-pin connector (some sources say it is confirmed at least for Founder's Edition cards, others say it will go to computer OEMs only). It's designed to deliver up to something crazy like 600W (the card is supposed to draw in the 300-350 range i think?), but all the pins are still just 12V and ground. So an adapter to go from a pair of 8-pins would seem like a reasonable expectation unless the power draw on these cards really is bonkers. Edit: And come to think of it, 300-350W is bonkers.I have an 850w psu now and yea 300-350w for the card alone is crazy to think about. Founders edition is what I will be getting if I can snag one. Not taking my chances waiting for third parties as who knows how long that will take before you can grab one. My card is still fine now but I can tell it is getting old for as long as I've had it. I'm seeing a few inconsistencies with it every now and then. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz
dburne Posted July 24, 2020 Author Posted July 24, 2020 I have an 850w psu now and yea 300-350w for the card alone is crazy to think about. Founders edition is what I will be getting if I can snag one. Not taking my chances waiting for third parties as who knows how long that will take before you can grab one. My card is still fine now but I can tell it is getting old for as long as I've had it. I'm seeing a few inconsistencies with it every now and then. I am hooked on EVGA and have been for years, so I will wait for their 3080 Ti FTW 3 card or whatever they do to be equivalent. Going to be interesting. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
sze5003 Posted July 24, 2020 Posted July 24, 2020 I am hooked on EVGA and have been for years, so I will wait for their 3080 Ti FTW 3 card or whatever they do to be equivalent. Going to be interesting.Those models are usually great. I had one of the earlier models at some point and was able to sell it before I got my 1080ti. Great quality, and solid performance. EVGA and Asus Rog strix models are usually my go to's. Have had way to many issues with gigabyte and other brands. I wish all the third party AIB's would come out at the same time as the founders editions. Waiting sucks but it's worse when they just release and they sell out. Took me like 4 months to get my current 1080ti because I didn't want FE and wanted a decent third party brand. They would sell out so quick. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz
X-31_VECTOR Posted July 24, 2020 Posted July 24, 2020 Took me like 4 months to get my current 1080ti because I didn't want FE and wanted a decent third party brand. They would sell out so quick. So I know people generally shun Founders Edition, but other than the silly name, what are the main drawbacks? (My 1080 is EVGA but mainly because it was a good buy). I know cooling solutions vary and some come pre-OC'd, but is there something else to it?
sze5003 Posted July 24, 2020 Posted July 24, 2020 So I know people generally shun Founders Edition, but other than the silly name, what are the main drawbacks? (My 1080 is EVGA but mainly because it was a good buy). I know cooling solutions vary and some come pre-OC'd, but is there something else to it?The founders editions basically set the price point for the other cards or they have in the past. They usually do come pre over clocked and for those that want to really push the overclock, people have said they don't go as far? I really never bothered to overclock my GPU. Mainly because it takes a long time to test everything for stability and I get bored running benchmarks all day. Other than that, the cooling solution was shunned upon because they used to use a blower. But I don't think cooling this time will be a problem with the 3 series. Asus ROG Strix Z790-E | Core i9 13900K-NZXT Kraken X73 AIO | 32GB DDR5 G Skill Neo 6600mhz | 2TB Sk Hynix P41 Platinum nvme |1TB Evo 970 Plus nvme | OCZ Trion 150 960GB | 256GB Samsung 830 | 1TB Samsung 850 EVO | Gigabyte OC 4090 | Phanteks P600S | 1000W MSI MPG A1000G | LG C2 42 Evo 3840x2160 @ 120hz
Waxer Posted July 24, 2020 Posted July 24, 2020 For the 2000-series / Turing cards the main limitation was card TDP. The main aftermarket cards main advantage is / was bios rules which allowed considerably higher TDP limits. Often this would shift the limiting factor from TDP to something else (temperature, clock speed or whatever). If I upgrade this cycle I will probably wait for aftermarket cards. Either an EVGA FTW3 or Galax. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
dburne Posted July 24, 2020 Author Posted July 24, 2020 So I know people generally shun Founders Edition, but other than the silly name, what are the main drawbacks? (My 1080 is EVGA but mainly because it was a good buy). I know cooling solutions vary and some come pre-OC'd, but is there something else to it? Mainly the silicon/over-clock ability along with improved cooling solutions. My EVGA RTX 2080 Ti FTW3 runs at a consistent 2.1 GHz boost with GPU temps in mid to upper 50's. Rarely breaks over 60c. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
VitS Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 The founders editions basically set the price point for the other cards or they have in the past. They usually do come pre over clocked and for those that want to really push the overclock, people have said they don't go as far? I really never bothered to overclock my GPU. Mainly because it takes a long time to test everything for stability and I get bored running benchmarks all day. Other than that, the cooling solution was shunned upon because they used to use a blower. But I don't think cooling this time will be a problem with the 3 series. Last 2 generations of nvidia GPU support automatic overclocking which works just fine if you are not pro-overclocker. It requires 30 mins of time tops and doesn't require you to do anything
Svsmokey Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) So I know people generally shun Founders Edition, but other than the silly name, what are the main drawbacks? (My 1080 is EVGA but mainly because it was a good buy). I know cooling solutions vary and some come pre-OC'd, but is there something else to it? I think an often-overlooked advantage of the blower cards is that the hot air is directly exited from the case , offering the potential for all the other components to run cooler . Not so much an issue for me now , but my previous case had relatively poor cooling and no effective means of rectifying , so i appreciated the direct exit feature . Edited July 27, 2020 by Svsmokey 9700k @ stock , Aorus Pro Z390 wifi , 32gb 3200 mhz CL16 , 1tb EVO 970 , MSI RX 6800XT Gaming X TRIO , Seasonic Prime 850w Gold , Coolermaster H500m , Noctua NH-D15S , CH Pro throttle and T50CM2/WarBrD base on Foxxmounts , CH pedals , Reverb G2v2
boedha68 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) ALERT-ALERT-ALERT-ALERT-ALERT HP asks € 440,00 more then reseller. I instant pre-orderd at reseller with discount code for € 599,00 instead € 1000 + at hp.nl https://store.hp.com/NetherlandsStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=1N0T5AA&opt=ABB&sel=ACC https://store.hp.com/NetherlandsStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=1N0T4AA&opt=ABB&sel=ACC (Reverb G2 without controllers) https://www.derekenwinkel.nl/hp-reverb-g2-new-generation.html And yes. There are two versions G2. One with controllers and one without controllers. Edited July 27, 2020 by boedha68 Newest system: AMD 9800X3d, Kingsting 128 GBDDR5, MSI RTX 5090(ready for buying), Corsair 150 Pro, 3xSamsung 970 Pro, Logitech X-56 HOTAS, Pimax Crystal Light (Super is purchased) ASUS 1200 Watt. New system:I9-9900KS, Kingston 128 GB DDR4 3200Mhz, MSI RTX 4090, Corsair H150 Pro RGB, 2xSamsung 970 EVO 2Tb, 2xsamsung 970 EVO 1 TB, Scandisk m2 500 MB, 2 x Crucial 1 Tb, T16000M HOTAS, HP Reverb Professional 2, Corsair 750 Watt. Old system:I7-4770K(OC 4.5Ghz), Kingston 24 GB DDR3 1600 Mhz,MSI RTX 2080(OC 2070 Mhz), 2 * 500 GB SSD, 3,5 TB HDD, 55' Samsung 3d tv, Trackir 5, Logitech HD Cam, T16000M HOTAS. All DCS modules, maps and campaigns:pilotfly:
TAW_Impalor Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 Pre-sale prices are all over the place in EU! Bestware raised its from €583.90 to €710.75 (with 2 controllers), while amazon.es has it for €599... 12900KF@5.4, 32GB DDR4@4000cl14g1, 4090, M.2, W10 Pro, Warthog HOTAS, ButtKicker, Reverb G2/OpenXR
imacken Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 The cheaper prices were for July only. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Zoomer Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 The cheaper prices were for July only. Amazon Spain still has it at 599 euro,549 w/o controllers. Stlll wondering if it`s worth the upgrade from my year old Reverb.
imacken Posted August 2, 2020 Posted August 2, 2020 Sorry, should have said SystemActive in the UK and Bestware. £640 now at SystemActive. Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
Zoomer Posted August 3, 2020 Posted August 3, 2020 Just ordered the G2 from Amazon Spain. So if anyone is interested in a lightly used top condition Reverb G1 they can drop me a PM.
VirusAM Posted August 5, 2020 Posted August 5, 2020 Just ordered the G2 from Amazon Spain. So if anyone is interested in a lightly used top condition Reverb G1 they can drop me a PM. Me too... Here the official hp store never opened a pre-order, just reports “available soon” R7-5800X3D 64GB RTX-4090 LG-38GN950 N/A Moza AB9 FFB Base + Moza MH-16 Grip, VKB Stecs Max, VKB T-Rudder MKV, Razer Tartarus V2 Secrets Lab Tytan, Monstertech ChairMounts
TWC_SLAG Posted August 6, 2020 Posted August 6, 2020 I got an email from Connections today saying the G2 I ordered on July 16 is out of stock, with a delivery date TBD. To me, that sounds like earlier orders have eaten up the first batch of headsets . I wonder how many that was, and where I am in the production line. TWC_SLAG Win 10 64 bit, 2T Hard Drive, 1T SSD, 500GB SSD, ASUS Prime Z390 MB, Intel i9 9900 Coffee Lake 3.1mhz CPU, ASUS 2070 Super GPU, 32gb DDR4 Ram, Track IR5, 32” Gigabyte curved monitor, TM Warthog HOTAS, CH Pedals, Voice Attack, hp Reverb G2.
imacken Posted August 6, 2020 Posted August 6, 2020 Interesting, I got this about a week ago from SystemActive: 'Congratulations! You have successfully pre-ordered the new HP Reverb G2 Headset + Controllers (1N0T5AA) at the exceptional promotional price of £525 via SystemActive, an HP Platinum First Partner. This is to confirm we have received your order and it is currently being processed by HP in factory. You will be one of the first in the UK to receive the headset. Your order number is #1997.' Intel i7 12700K · MSI Gaming X Trio RTX 4090 · ASUS ROG STRIX Z690-A Wi-Fi · MSI 32" MPG321UR QD · Samsung 970 500Gb M.2 NVMe · 2 x Samsung 850 Evo 1Tb · 2Tb HDD · 32Gb Corsair Vengance 3000MHz DDR4 · Windows 11 · Thrustmaster TPR Pedals · Tobii Eye Tracker 5 · Thrustmaster F/A-18 Hornet Grip · Virpil MongoosT-50CM3 Base · Virpil Throttle MT-50 CM3 · Virpil Alpha Prime Grip · Virpil Control Panel 2 · Thrustmaster F-16 MFDs · HTC Vive Pro 2 · Total Controls Multifunction Button Box
X-31_VECTOR Posted August 6, 2020 Posted August 6, 2020 I got an email from Connections today saying the G2 I ordered on July 16 is out of stock, with a delivery date TBD. To me, that sounds like earlier orders have eaten up the first batch of headsets . I wonder how many that was, and where I am in the production line. I placed my pre-order directly with HP (via "Connections") on July 13, and haven't gotten a similar notice to yours, knock on wood. That seems to suggest the cutoff for the first batch (ordered through them, here in the US) was somewhere between 13 and 16 July.
bilbosmeggins Posted August 6, 2020 Posted August 6, 2020 Has anybody heard anything from BestWare, in Germany? Apart from my initial confirmation of order, I’ve had no further updates.
dburne Posted August 6, 2020 Author Posted August 6, 2020 I placed my pre-order directly with HP (via "Connections") on July 13, and haven't gotten a similar notice to yours, knock on wood. That seems to suggest the cutoff for the first batch (ordered through them, here in the US) was somewhere between 13 and 16 July. Same here and I ordered on July 8th. I have not received any notice from Connections. Don B EVGA Z390 Dark MB | i9 9900k CPU @ 5.1 GHz | Gigabyte 4090 OC | 64 GB Corsair Vengeance 3200 MHz CL16 | Corsair H150i Pro Cooler |Virpil CM3 Stick w/ Alpha Prime Grip 200mm ext| Virpil CM3 Throttle | VPC Rotor TCS Base w/ Alpha-L Grip| Point Control V2|Varjo Aero|
TWC_SLAG Posted August 7, 2020 Posted August 7, 2020 Maybe no news is good news. TWC_SLAG Win 10 64 bit, 2T Hard Drive, 1T SSD, 500GB SSD, ASUS Prime Z390 MB, Intel i9 9900 Coffee Lake 3.1mhz CPU, ASUS 2070 Super GPU, 32gb DDR4 Ram, Track IR5, 32” Gigabyte curved monitor, TM Warthog HOTAS, CH Pedals, Voice Attack, hp Reverb G2.
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