Release date?

[Mike_Romeo]

23 hours ago, Svelerdijk said:

Is the project alive?

[falcon_120]

I think it's pretty safe to say that the EF will not be released anytime soon. By that, I mean in 2023. 

Not so sure, I'm hoping for a late 2023 release.

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[JumpinK]

My guess: mid to late 2024...

[-Matt-]

8 hours ago, JumpinK said:

My guess: mid to late 2024...

+1, my guess too.

[Horns]

This comment from HB on the F-4 forum seems to suggest it will be up to five months before the hype campaign starts for the Phantom. Seems prudent not to expect that to hit EA before Q4.

I have to believe they'll give it at least 12 months between releases, and then allowing time for the hype campaign and presale... I'm afraid my guess is the Typhoon hits EA in the first half of 2025. I hope history judges me pessimistic.

[Scott-S6]

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That announcement makes 2023 look less likely. The Kiowa and C130 being possible for 23 were surprises though.

Edited January 6, 2023 by Scott-S6

[Aluminum Donkey]

Wow, I haven't posted to this thread in a while. Surprised to see that the Typhoon hasn't been released yet.

My new RTX 3070 will probably be obsolete when it gets released

 

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Edited January 7, 2023 by Aluminum Donkey

[Gorn_GER]

Sorry for the flex but who buys less than RTX 3080 when planning to play DCS with it?  

For me, 3070 already is obsolete for DCS. 

[McCloud]

2 hours ago, Gorn_GER said:

Sorry for the flex but who buys less than RTX 3080 when planning to play DCS with it?  

For me, 3070 already is obsolete for DCS. 

It’s really dependent on the resolution you are using. 
 

for me, the 3080 is obsolete for me as I fly exclusively in VR and the vram is needed. 

[Harry.R]

Don't worry about your 3070, I'm still on a 1070 and it works fine in VR for me. One day when I want a few more frames I'll update.

 

[Gorn_GER]

vor 16 Stunden schrieb McCloud:

It’s really dependent on the resolution you are using. 
 

for me, the 3080 is obsolete for me as I fly exclusively in VR and the vram is needed. 

therefor I use a 3090 to power my HP-Reverb G2 in DCS. And even the 24GB VRAM is not the holy grail in DCS. I had to switch from SteamVR to OpenXR by using opencomposite to get "good" VR results. ED realy has to work on the game engine soon. 

vor 10 Stunden schrieb Harry.R:

Don't worry about your 3070, I'm still on a 1070 and it works fine in VR for me. One day when I want a few more frames I'll update.

 

idk man. I used RTX 2070 with Oculus Quest 1 + 2 and HP-Reverb G2 and the results felt really bad. I had to turn down everything to low and it was still shuttering. With a system of a friend i tried the VR setup with 3070, too and because of that bad results I bought 3090. That was the first time i was not dissapointed of DCS-VR anymore. 

[McCloud]

3 hours ago, Gorn_GER said:

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therefor I use a 3090 to power my HP-Reverb G2 in DCS. And even the 24GB VRAM is not the holy grail in DCS. I had to switch from SteamVR to OpenXR by using opencomposite to get "good" VR results. ED realy has to work on the game engine soon. 

 

Very much this.

Edited January 13, 2023 by McCloud

[Harry.R]

4 hours ago, Gorn_GER said:

therefor I use a 3090 to power my HP-Reverb G2 in DCS. And even the 24GB VRAM is not the holy grail in DCS. I had to switch from SteamVR to OpenXR by using opencomposite to get "good" VR results. ED realy has to work on the game engine soon. 

idk man. I used RTX 2070 with Oculus Quest 1 + 2 and HP-Reverb G2 and the results felt really bad. I had to turn down everything to low and it was still shuttering. With a system of a friend i tried the VR setup with 3070, too and because of that bad results I bought 3090. That was the first time i was not dissapointed of DCS-VR anymore. 

Understood, I have a Rift S which I don't suppose is quite as demanding as a Reverb. When I save up enough and don't have any other commitments then I'll probably get a 3080/3090, but will probably have to upgrade my whole PC by then

Edited January 13, 2023 by Harry.R

[legitscoper]

On 1/13/2023 at 4:27 PM, Harry.R said:

Understood, I have a Rift S which I don't suppose is quite as demanding as a Reverb. When I save up enough and don't have any other commitments then I'll probably get a 3080/3090, but will probably have to upgrade my whole PC by then

 

I play on RTX 2070 super on Rift S, and I think it's minimum what you need, on bigger servers it kinda lags.

[Lurker]

The problem is the ever increasing hardware requirements of the game. A very powerful rig built especially for DCS World, that ran the game perfectly fine a year ago should not be struggling to run the same game today. (This is not really apparent in 2d gaming, but it is very apparent in VR)

Also, we have gone way off topic. 

[Harry.R]

9 hours ago, legitscoper said:

I play on RTX 2070 super on Rift S, and I think it's minimum what you need, on bigger servers it kinda lags.

Yeah, AO lags quite badly, the other 4YA type servers not so much.  I still get reasonable frames and manage to do streamed aeros events okay, when it gets bad I'll upgrade. DCS isn't optimised for VR just yet, so it's my CPU and M2 drive which keep it playing nicely for me. I do randomly suffer from 'VR lag' though, which is where I look at the F10  map, and then in cockpit the frame rate drops and becomes super laggy. Doesn't happen all the time, does happen at inconvienient times..

[lee1hy]

just forget

expected It takes more than 8 years like f-15e

 

 

Edited July 7, 2023 by lee1hy

[legitscoper]

phantom will take like 1-2 more years, so typhoon can take 3-5 from now

[Rick Mave]

On 7/9/2023 at 8:00 PM, legitscoper said:

phantom will take like 1-2 more years, so typhoon can take 3-5 from now

What are you actually talking about. That's definitely not the case ^^

[Fromthedeep]

On 7/21/2023 at 8:59 PM, Rick Mave said:

What are you actually talking about. That's definitely not the case ^^

Who knows? Two companies have basically given up on actually developing the EFA for DCS (Truegrit does not do any coding for the upcoming module), I'm still skeptical that it will be released at all.

[MRTX]

Well, i think we can all agree upon that Heatblur is most likely capable to code the needed systems for the Eurofighter as long as Truegrit provides them with the necessary information.

Yes the eurofighter would be a challenge to develop for any seasoned developer, which is mostly caused by the lack of access to needed documentation and knowledge (which isn't a problem for Truegrit) and the fact that many systems of the Eurofighter are deeply interconnected building up on each other.

This leads to a situation in which developers will be forced to release the Eurofighter in a very complete state in order to give the user a faithfull representation of what it is like to interact with it. Obviously that leads to a very long development timeframe which most smaller DCS devs simply can't afford to sustain without any additional revenue during that period. This is something Heatblur and Truegrit also don't have to struggle with, due to the nearing realease of the Phantom (on top of that i wouldn't be supprised if Adams Simulation and Training was also still cashing in to support the project).

Overall the Eurofighter development will take considerably longer than that of most other modules in DCS untill it can even be considered read for EA. 

[Butcher868]

vor 13 Stunden schrieb MRTX:

Well, i think we can all agree upon that Heatblur is most likely capable to code the needed systems for the Eurofighter as long as Truegrit provides them with the necessary information.

Yes the eurofighter would be a challenge to develop for any seasoned developer, which is mostly caused by the lack of access to needed documentation and knowledge (which isn't a problem for Truegrit) and the fact that many systems of the Eurofighter are deeply interconnected building up on each other.

This leads to a situation in which developers will be forced to release the Eurofighter in a very complete state in order to give the user a faithfull representation of what it is like to interact with it. Obviously that leads to a very long development timeframe which most smaller DCS devs simply can't afford to sustain without any additional revenue during that period. This is something Heatblur and Truegrit also don't have to struggle with, due to the nearing realease of the Phantom (on top of that i wouldn't be supprised if Adams Simulation and Training was also still cashing in to support the project).

Overall the Eurofighter development will take considerably longer than that of most other modules in DCS untill it can even be considered read for EA. 

In a very complete state!? No pls not, that wouldn't be a real simulation. The EF need Bugs and missing functions! XD

[Zahnatom]

3 hours ago, Butcher868 said:

In a very complete state!? No pls not, that wouldn't be a real simulation. The EF need Bugs and missing functions! XD

thats kind of the entire point of Early Access, no?

If im buying an early access module I'm expecting bugs and missing functions in return for having the module early.

[Jayden.B]

On 3/28/2020 at 3:26 PM, Aluminum Donkey said:

 

 

Sounds reasonable...

 

 

So, realistically, about 3 years

Yikes

[Rudel_chw]

On 8/24/2022 at 3:39 PM, Zahnatom said:

maybe i'm alone on this but i'd prefer anything early over nothing until a couple of years later but then everything.

You are not alone, I actually enjoy early access releases … even the F-16 was enjoyable to me 
 

Edit: Sorry, didnt notice the date of the post I was quoting  

Edited September 18, 2023 by Rudel_chw