Having fun with the trial aircraft. Not sure what to grab next?

[Diesel_Thunder]

Not wanting to intrude on wizav's Kid in a Candy store thread, but I too am enjoying the free trials of the modules. A BIG thank you to ED for doing this!

 

My list that I've tried is:

 

 

1. AV-8B Harrier
   
2. F5-E Tiger II
   
3. F-86 Sabre
   
4. UH-1H Iroquois
   
5. F/A-18C Hornet
   

The F-5 and F-86 are both great modules, and are two I will purchase in the future.

 

The Huey is fun, but not having rudder pedals really limits the experience (my X-45 HOTAS has a rudder rocker on the throttle). I can see myself with this module once I have better hardware.

 

Thought I would enjoy the Harrier, and ended up not. Very daunting aircraft, far more complex than my Hog (which I'm quite decent at). I've heard the phrase "drinking from a fire hose" in regards to training, but the Harrier's lessons feel like drinking from an 18 inch water main. I may reconsider this one down the road.

 

Then there's the F-18. This bird is a joy to fly. Doesn't have quite the performance of my F-16, but it's still a lot of fun. The lessons are well laid out and I've been steadily progressing through them. This is a definite purchase for me come payday.

 

Here's where my conundrum lies. I'm debating now whether to get the NTTR map, or the Super Carrier. I know the Marianas map will be coming, and having been stationed on Guam for a few years, I'm really looking forward to that map.

 

Wonder which way I should go, the NTTR map or the super carrier?

[wizav]

If you like choppers Mi-8

 

If you like Cold War Jets = MIG 21

[randomTOTEN]

time to step outside of the NATO box!

[Rudel_chw]

...

Here's where my conundrum lies. I'm debating now whether to get the NTTR map, or the Super Carrier. I know the Marianas map will be coming, and having been stationed on Guam for a few years, I'm really looking forward to that map.

 

Wonder which way I should go, the NTTR map or the super carrier?

 

The SC is still an unknown item, and it may well take up to a year before it is fully developed, but it is at a great 50% discount.

 

Nevada always get that type of discount, but SC is a new item and I doubt that we will see this type of dicount once it is released (which may very well be in 10 more days) ... if it were for me, I would go with the SC, and leave Nevada for a future sale.

[Hamel]

Super carrier definitely with the F/A-18C. And IMO the beta version of DCS. Then you can begin your simulated naval aviator career. The feeling of nailing a 3 wire with a shit hot case1 break is brilliant. And the new free map will add so much to naval warfare.

You won't regret it. And all this negative stuff about SC release or the current state of the beta will sort itself out pretty quickly. It usually does. DCS is a constantly evolving beast. I ditched the release version for disk space and to always be on the cutting edge of DCS.

You can always go back to your Viper when you feel like some easy flying.

As the Navy pilot said to the Air Force pilot, "Flaring is like squatting to pee".

[Eldur]

Then there's the F-18. This bird is a joy to fly. Doesn't have quite the performance of my F-16, but it's still a lot of fun. The lessons are well laid out and I've been steadily progressing through them. This is a definite purchase for me come payday.

 

Here's where my conundrum lies. I'm debating now whether to get the NTTR map, or the Super Carrier. I know the Marianas map will be coming, and having been stationed on Guam for a few years, I'm really looking forward to that map.

 

Wonder which way I should go, the NTTR map or the super carrier?

 

Considering the momentary situation with the SC still not being out and therefor still in presale, you should get the Hornet and then the SC to get most bang for the buck. The SC will be 40 for Hornet owners as soon as it's out and probably won't be part of sales for quite some time whereas you can grab the NTTR probably for 50% off in any upcoming sale in the summer, around thanksgiving or just before christmas.

[unlikely_spider]

Not wanting to intrude on wizav's Kid in a Candy store thread, but I too am enjoying the free trials of the modules. A BIG thank you to ED for doing this!

 

My list that I've tried is:

 

 

1. AV-8B Harrier
   
2. F5-E Tiger II
   
3. F-86 Sabre
   
4. UH-1H Iroquois
   
5. F/A-18C Hornet
   

The F-5 and F-86 are both great modules, and are two I will purchase in the future.

 

The Huey is fun, but not having rudder pedals really limits the experience (my X-45 HOTAS has a rudder rocker on the throttle). I can see myself with this module once I have better hardware.

 

Thought I would enjoy the Harrier, and ended up not. Very daunting aircraft, far more complex than my Hog (which I'm quite decent at). I've heard the phrase "drinking from a fire hose" in regards to training, but the Harrier's lessons feel like drinking from an 18 inch water main. I may reconsider this one down the road.

 

Then there's the F-18. This bird is a joy to fly. Doesn't have quite the performance of my F-16, but it's still a lot of fun. The lessons are well laid out and I've been steadily progressing through them. This is a definite purchase for me come payday.

 

Here's where my conundrum lies. I'm debating now whether to get the NTTR map, or the Super Carrier. I know the Marianas map will be coming, and having been stationed on Guam for a few years, I'm really looking forward to that map.

 

Wonder which way I should go, the NTTR map or the super carrier?

Are the A-10c and F-18 that much easier than the Harrier? I'm trying to learn the Harrier now, and it is a lot. Though I'm virtually always flying older craft, so I thought it was just how modern planes are.

[Diesel_Thunder]

Are the A-10c and F-18 that much easier than the Harrier? I'm trying to learn the Harrier now, and it is a lot. Though I'm virtually always flying older craft, so I thought it was just how modern planes are.

 

A-10C, definitely! I have over 200 hours on that bird, worth every penny. She is slow, but can stay aloft for hours, lots of weapons, the GAU-8, tough, very stable and easy to fly. As far as modules go, she is one of the oldest modules but is very well polished at this point. I highly recommend it if you don't have it.

 

F-18 is a fast mover, and can suck down gas. Nimble, responsive to the controls, and can go past Mach 1. I'm enjoying it, and I just got it yesterday, alongside the Harrier. Harrier seems like it has way more to learn compared to the Hornet. My biggest issue with the Hornet right now is the transition to approach when doing an overhead break, though that is mostly on me by not having enough stick time :joystick:.

 

The lessons that came with the Hornet are easier to follow along with and are structured well. The Harriers lessons felt like so much was being thrown at you at once, very difficult to keep up with, and left me confused with what I had to do. And that was with the beginning stuff like cold start and taxi/takeoff. Never made it to doing landings, STOL, and VTOL. My frustration level was getting to be too much by that point so I stopped with that module and moved on.

 

 

wizav - no choppers for me until I get better hardware (rudder pedals at the minimum)

 

randomTOTEN - I'm not really interested in Warsaw Pact/Russian equipment at this point.

 

Thanks for the input on this guys, think I'm leaning towards the super carrier. Really gotta work on my landings though in the mean time.

[LuckyFromArma]

I'm a helo guy, but I'm probably going to jump in the A-10, since it's a CAS bird.

[Furiz]

I'm considering buying the Harrier, I really like the plane but...

 

 

 

having the Viper and the Hornet being able to perform any task that harrier can do, except for the vertical landing ofc,

 

 

They are also very good vs air targets while Harrier is mediocre there at best,

 

 

 

and to all of that Hiarrier cant even carry more than Viper or Hornet.

 

 

so only reason for buying the harrier would be to make use of the vertical takeoff and landing on a mission, which than limits the carry potential, or to have a open slot option if all the other slots are taken on the mission server.

 

 

So where does Harrier excel over Viper or Hornet?

 

 

 

I would definitely buy a MIG 29 or SU27, 30, 33 if there was a clickable cockpit version (I do have fc3 versions), I'd like a 4th gen clickable fighter from the Russian side.

[Harlikwin]

Are the A-10c and F-18 that much easier than the Harrier? I'm trying to learn the Harrier now, and it is a lot. Though I'm virtually always flying older craft, so I thought it was just how modern planes are.

 

The bigger issue with the harrier is the various long standing bugs/problems/ and glacial progress fixing them. You don't notice that stuff at first but once you get a hang of the module and take a deep dive look at real world docs you start to see piles of issues with various systems and how things work or don't or that are still missing years later.

 

And honestly as other have said, the F18/16/A10 can do the same mission better than the harrier. The only cool thing is the VTOL side of it which unfortunately doesn't get used to its full potential in DCS, especially online.

 

As for Nevada vs SC, I'd get the SC, no one uses the Nevada map much online and its usually on sale anyway if you feel like you are missing out. If you play SP only there are some cool campaigns for it though.

Edited May 6, 2020 by Harlikwin

[lobo]

VTOL.