FIX your game!

[cpt.miller]

Maybe watch their video, see for yourself and then apologise

 

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=273624&highlight=stingers

 

 

I cant see any fps counter. And i bet they have the best hardware money can buy.

[RollingRock]

I5-8600K 2080ti Valve Index. I get stable 48fps on the SC which is completely fine with valve motion smoothing.

 

This is with 150% SS and 2x MSAA.

 

I'm mostly CPU bound as the GPU still has plenty of room at even 72fps when I get into the air so I"m guessing you could achieve similar performance as mine without the 2080ti.

 

So yeah while I agree with you that performance should be better and I wish they would spend some time on it I don't think it's in a horrible place either that justifies your rant. Spend time optimizing your settings and upgrading your hardware if you want to fly VR.

[Steel Jaw]

Pfft...who can afford VR? What are you complaining about if you can?? Buy me one.

[FZG_Immel]

First of all, i am with ED since 2004 and i never felt the need to write something like that.

I am so disappointed it is hard to find the right words....

I hope there will be some competition thats blows your company away.

ED you are the reason why i hate early access... and dont say "just dont buy early access products" is there a single module that is finished AND has good performance?

 

22fps with the SC in VR with 7700K @ 5.0 ghz 32GB ram and rtx 2070.

There are many many insults in my head right now i would like to throw in your direction...

 

Just FIX your game or die to your competetors. ohh wait there are no competetors....

 

there is something wrong with you setting up your PC and game, me think..

[BIGNEWY]

First of all, i am with ED since 2004 and i never felt the need to write something like that.

I am so disappointed it is hard to find the right words....

I hope there will be some competition thats blows your company away.

ED you are the reason why i hate early access... and dont say "just dont buy early access products" is there a single module that is finished AND has good performance?

 

22fps with the SC in VR with 7700K @ 5.0 ghz 32GB ram and rtx 2070.

There are many many insults in my head right now i would like to throw in your direction...

 

Just FIX your game or die to your competetors. ohh wait there are no competetors....

 

if you are only getting 22fps something is wrong with your settings or setup.

 

follow my general troubleshooting advice below.

 

remove all unofficial mods if you have any.

 

Make sure windows and your driver are up to date.

 

the troubleshooting advice will get you to rename your dcs folder in your saved games location( keep it as a backup )

 

run a cleanup and repair or verify for steam users

 

restart DCS login and apply desired settings and test.

 

let us know how you get on.

 

thanks

[Flamin_Squirrel]

It must be ED's fault. The friendly 'Microsoft' adviser that called him up and got him to install some software told him so.

[markturner1960]

BigNewey's advice is good....I just had a frustrating day trying to get the SC installed and the issue turned out to be my non standard install and moving stuff around. Once I had a good base install, it all worked.

Kinda strange that you dont try some fixes and following advice before blowing up like that ....

[Cab]

I cant see any fps counter. And i bet they have the best hardware money can buy.

 

Why not just ask him about his hardware and settings, instead of making such claims.

 

I have never met Jar, but he has always come across as a friendly enthusiast. Personally, I see no reason to doubt his sincerity.

[RedeyeStorm]

I know it is a question that could get you even more upset but have you thought about using stable DCS? I certainly know that it is hard to wait half a year for features others already have but it avoids lots of what makes you tired. No offence. I understand your frustration more than you might think.

 

 

Well frankly stable is hardly less buggy then Beta. I think, like cpt.miller, I have a love-hate relation with DCS. On one hand it is a great simulator of detailed aircraft like there are no others. The level of detail on each module makes them all works of art.

 

BUT there are still problems with the game especially for people that prefer single player, like me. The buggy ai and ufo flight models makes me cringe. I always end up quiting playing DCS because it just becomes to much to bear. Then after a half a year or more the bug bites again and I dive into it ones more. And then the many, many bugs in AI kill the game for me again. Frankly it has been this way since Flanker 2.0 and every iteration of this game since.

 

Well for now DCS is out. I play VR so with 2.5.6 the game simply is unplayable. There working on it but until it is fixed the game is shelved. Until the bug bites again........................

[Motomouse]

It is possible to get 60FPS in VR with the correct settings. Far from unplayable.

[DLEGION]

no, he's not a troll, even if its easier mark him as one and move on.

i realize we all have very different experiences with DCS,

but there are people that actually play this game, and when playtime is 50% playing game and 50% fighting absurd bugs (just to name one, the latest introduced with latest patch, on F18 infinite bar scan and up to 1140 degrees of radar cone) , the experience become really, and i mean really irritating.

an irritated customer is not a troll.

 

i'm sincerely happy if someone find DCS enjoyable, i honestly dont know how its possible, but still i'm happy for them.

sadly, i cant find it enjoyable, i limit myself to gun dogfights because i dont want get angry everytime i play, and after 1 or 2 hours mission, getting a bug that screw everything, makes people really angry, in my opinion.

 

Miller...i totally understand you… but i got that ED has its autopilot ON and nothing will change, this kind of post are not welcome here, so i strongly suggest to accept the reality as it is, enjoy what works and ignore the rest, try to not get sucked into the hate… it will not change anything anyway.

[Tom Kazansky]

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Well for now DCS is out. I play VR so with 2.5.6 the game simply is unplayable. There working on it but until it is fixed the game is shelved. Until the bug bites again........................

 

 

that was exactly my point. stable 2.5.5 is not free of bugs but nicely playable. especially in VR.

[Flamin_Squirrel]

no, he's not a troll, even if its easier mark him as one and move on.

i realize we all have very different experiences with DCS,

but there are people that actually play this game, and when playtime is 50% playing game and 50% fighting absurd bugs (just to name one, the latest introduced with latest patch, on F18 infinite bar scan and up to 1140 degrees of radar cone) , the experience become really, and i mean really irritating.

an irritated customer is not a troll.

 

I understand your sentiment, but that doesn't apply here. OP isn't complaining about a bug, they're complaining about poor fps. This is likely due to either totally unrealistic expectations or incorrect settings.

[Wali763]

Does anyone else remember the good old days when calling someone a liar wasn't so casual.

 

 

Does anyone remember the good old days when making fun of someone because he simply had a different opinion wasn't so casual??

 

 

I think cpt.miller has a point. And just you and me accept lower standards, dont have to mean, everybody has to accept the same standards.

 

 

Looking at all the PC-specs, people show here, DCS should run like a F1-car, but in fact its more or less limping. At least if your not only playing SP with only two units high over NTTR.

 

 

But I guess ED know about the problems, also since the awkward release of SC has further shown the point, that something has to be done about the core-system.

 

 

And if ED cant make this with the current business-model, they ought ot rethink this. But there was/is already a discussion about that.

 

 

Still I find it interesting to see here some people complaining about the lack of some top-tier features, while others dont care, what they get shoved up their....... and even say thank you for that and jump to defend DCS instantly.

 

 

I understand your sentiment, but that doesn't apply here. OP isn't complaining about a bug, they're complaining about poor fps. This is likely due to either totally unrealistic expectations or incorrect settings.

 

 

Strange thing is, those unrealistic expectations of come from experiences in other games, where those fps seems just normal. So maybe no so unrealistic then I guess...

Edited May 24, 2020 by Wali763

[Mr. Big.Biggs]

Pfft...who can afford VR? What are you complaining about if you can?? Buy me one.

 

Pfft... Save some money and buy your own damn computer. Nobody owes you an explanation or anything for that matter as to what they run.

Just remember, entry level computer, entry level performance. High end computer, high...er, better level performance.

Sheesh dude....

Edited May 24, 2020 by Mr. Big.”Biggs”

[Flamin_Squirrel]

Does anyone remember the good old days when making fun of someone because he simply had a different opinion wasn't so casual??

 

 

I think cpt.miller has a point. And just you and me accept lower standards, dont have to mean, everybody has to accept the same standards.

 

 

Looking at all the PC-specs, people show here, DCS should run like a F1-car, but in fact its more or less limping. At least if your not only playing SP with only two units high over NTTR.

 

 

But I guess ED know about the problems, also since the awkward release of SC has further shown the point, that something has to be done about the core-system.

 

 

And if ED cant make this with the current business-model, they ought ot rethink this. But there was/is already a discussion about that.

 

 

Still I find it interesting to see here some people complaining about the lack of some top-tier features, while others dont care, what they get shoved up their....... and even say thank you for that and jump to defend DCS instantly.

 

 

 

 

 

Strange thing is, those unrealistic expectations of come from experiences in other games, where those fps seems just normal. So maybe no so unrealistic then I guess...

 

OP isn't being mocked for having a different opinion, it's because they're being unconstructive.

[BuzzU]

The problem isn't with ED. The problem is more detail than the average good system can handle in VR.

 

Maybe accepting less detail if you insist on using VR. At least for now.

 

I'm lucky in a away. I have zero interest in VR and I don't have any fps problems.

 

Sometimes wanting it all is not the best decision.

[Cab]

Does anyone remember the good old days when making fun of someone because he simply had a different opinion wasn't so casual??

 

I agree with that sentiment too, but that is not what happened. To summarize:

 

OP: "My game performance sucks."

Reply: "My game performance is good."

OP: "You're lying."

 

Maybe it's more nuanced than that, but its how I read it.

 

That kind of attitude doesn't tend to earn much sympathy. I would advise the OP to dial back his anger and disrespect, and he'll find most people on this forum genuinely want to go out of their way to help.

Edited May 24, 2020 by Cab
clarify the quote

[3WA]

Competition? We are beyond niche. They don't even need DRM.

 

 

 

Maybe one day when they put actual vehicles and infantry in.

[Napa]

cpt.miller what are your full specs? Your in-game settings? Nvidia control panel settings? Can you please show us something?