Middle East Wishlist Thread

[Mike Force Team]

Afghanistan and Pakistan maps would be great additions to DCS world. Easy to incorporate the various jets and choppers in virtual missions. 

[Baaz]

Please, no.  No more sand.

 

Edited December 16, 2021 by Baaz

[Baaz]

Please no.  I understand for the younger generation the Gulf Wars and Afghanistan may be all they really know of, but please, no more desert sand maps.  

Anything green and coastal before another desert.  Far to much sand in my drawers already. 

 

[sonic]

At the end  of this promotional video there are the coordinates of bagram air base.

 

[bies]

On 3/20/2021 at 1:28 PM, Tnt Snipes said:

Afghanistan map, would be the better option than Iraq. Iraq is more or less the same as persian gulf. Afghanistan offers more than PG, Syria and Caucasus.
Afghanistan is more like a cross between Caucasus and the Persian Gulf. I wish they work on Afghanistan.

 

I think it's the opposite: in Afghanistan, we are talking about US/NATO engagement, there was not really any "war" (as most people understand a war). No tanks fighting each other, no naval combat, no air combat, no any threat to the coalition air force - AKA flying training missions. Just a small sporadic light infantry vs partisans indecisive skirmishes, practically impossible to recreate in aircraft simulator like DCS.

 

Contrary, in Iraq there were two all out wars, Iraq-Iran war in 1980s and Desert Storm 1991. Both with thousands of tanks, AFV, artillery, hundreds of thousands of military personnel engaged, aircrafts and helicopters destroying thousands of vehicles, naval combat, air combat and dogfighting with air kills, air defense combat, losses for both sides - something attractive and possible to recreate in DCS.

Especially we have nearly all assets for both sides and for both Iraq-Iran war and Desert Storm (except for F-4 Phantom, but today's trailer suggests it may be developed) F-5E, F-14A, Huey, Gazelle, MiG-21, MiG-23 WIP, MiG-29A, Su-25A, Mirage F.1 WIP, Mi-8, Mi-24, F-15C, A-10A, A-6E WIP, A-7E WIP etc.

 

This short A-10 pilot interview tells everything

 

Edited April 15, 2022 by bies

[Sandman1330]

From todays video, it looks like Bagram will likely be the focal point of the map, likely as Far East as Jalalabad and maybe Peshawar.

I do hope it goes far enough south to include Kandahar. Whether you play out 80s scenarios or modern scenarios, Kandahar was pivotal in both conflicts. The corridor between Bagram and Kandahar for a couple hundred kilometres either side will make an excellent area for ops. If they want to go as far as the Hindu Kush though, this will make for a huge map.

It would be nice to see Helmand province included as well, but that may be too big…

Edited December 24, 2021 by Sandman1330

[cordite]

A2G is actually a thing. Not everyone wants to play air quake, or fly helis where it’s basically a turkey shoot.

[Mogster]

On 12/28/2021 at 1:54 AM, cordite said:

A2G is actually a thing. Not everyone wants to play air quake, or fly helis where it’s basically a turkey shoot.

It’s just so asymmetric though. Is orbiting a battlefield in an A10 dispensing ordinance while responding to no threats that interesting in DCS?

[cordite]

The ground AI needs more work. The infantry is OP, and a bigger threat than it should be.
 

But yes, to some people it is.
 

Would flying A10s and helis be that interesting if you had to worry about airborne threats, that you have little defence from? If it is, DCS and the MP community already have that covered in spades.

[Stratos]

850 x 850 km, more or less, is that doable in DCS? I like in the way it cover Iran-Iraq war, and can be used for Desert Storm as well, altough many of the coallition airfields were more to the south, but that's not a bad thing, it allows shorter flights, more DCS style. Very very interesting area selected, maybe Ugra should give it a try?

Edited January 16, 2022 by Stratos

[CallsignPunch]

1. Afghanistan is more than sand….Bragram and to the east and North…. Tora Bora, Jbad, Kunar…..some interesting and treacherous terrain, much different from PG and all other maps. 
 

2. Part of the fun of DCS isn’t just what did happen but what could or could have. You could make your own scenario where there are plenty A-A threats. Realistically the Russian hind drivers had a hell of a time from Manpads. The A-10 video above is just one angle from one conflict.  

[Mike Force Team]

When I watched the DCS World 2022 and Beyond video, there were some coordinates that flashed very quickly.  The coordinates were for a location in Afghanistan.  I theorize that the Afghanistan and/or Pakistan map might appear.  It is possible it could appear at the end of January.  This is my theory, by the way.

[Mike Force Team]

We need to add virtual camels to the Persian Gulf and Syria Maps.  For now, we have virtual cows.

[MAXsenna]

27 minutes ago, Mike Force Team said:

We need to add virtual camels to the Persian Gulf and Syria Maps.  For now, we have virtual cows.

Mike, re-wishing is not allowed!

[Mike Force Team]

But MAXSenna, it is a new year.  Since it was a new year, I figured I could wish again. 

[MAXsenna]

1 hour ago, Mike Force Team said:

But MAXSenna, it is a new year.  Since it was a new year, I figured I could wish again. 

Ah, of course you're right. Totally forgot about that!  

[potatoman530]

This is what the Persian Gulf Map should have been to be honest. This map looks very good however I just want to point out that you are missing many Air bases in Iraq, but overall I would want a map just like that.

[bies]

+1 Iraq/Saudi/Iran/Kuwait border map saw two all out wars, Iraq-Iran war 1980s and Desert Storm 1991. It would be great.

It's so strange we had PG map instead, maybe ED wanted more sea? IDK. But flying over Dubai will never have similiar atmosphere to flying over real life war zones, like Baghdad, Kuwait, Basra etc.

[Stratos]

With ED hinting the Afghanistan map, I think another company should take this, I hope Is Ugra Media, they did a wonderful job on Syria, and I'm sure they will acomplish something even better with this kind of map!

[Silver_Dragon]

Ugra-Media has actually making the Normandy Expansion.

[Stratos]

3 minutes ago, Silver_Dragon said:

Ugra-Media has actually making the Normandy Expansion.

I doubt that's their only project, being only an expansion and relatively short term project.

[Silver_Dragon]

1 minute ago, Stratos said:

I doubt that's their only project, being only an expansion and relatively short term project.

"short term" has very ambiguous, They has building London and Paris, and If making as Syria, build some subsequence expansions (Missing the last east Syria expansion), has very plausible Normandy can be more of only two cities.

[Stratos]

Maybe, who knows.

[Silver_Dragon]

Normady can require a complete redone, include the Uk coast to reach the show cities, surelly to put them at same level of Syria map. I dont see them move to other map on 1-2 years.

Other point can be the "Whole World" by ED on progress... (Mid Future, of course).

Edited January 19, 2022 by Silver_Dragon

[LooseSeal]

On 1/18/2022 at 8:42 PM, Mike Force Team said:

When I watched the DCS World 2022 and Beyond video, there were some coordinates that flashed very quickly.  The coordinates were for a location in Afghanistan.  I theorize that the Afghanistan and/or Pakistan map might appear.  It is possible it could appear at the end of January.  This is my theory, by the way.

It is nigh on impossible for a new map to appear out of nowhere in 2 weeks. They haven't even confirmed what the coordinates are in relation to. We'll hear and see a lot more of any new map well before it is released, likely being teased in future Wags videos.