announced DCS MiG-29A

[MiGCap1]

9 hours ago, Gierasimov said:

Is it not the one that was re-printed and sold commercially? The one I posted image of?

 

 

 

Yes, if it is complete. I didn‘t know that our Dash-1 was reprinted.

[Mars Exulte]

18 hours ago, Dannyvandelft said:

Looked official 

 It's a fan page, at a glance. Random tiktok polls and ''hashtag like my plane'' isn't really their style.

7 hours ago, tsonagoat said:

*conspiracy*

 Yeah, totally legit reasoning @@

[Harlikwin]

13 hours ago, Gierasimov said:

 

Naval Flanker would be hawt. But it aint happenen.

 

[SharkWizard]

15 minutes ago, Harlikwin said:

 

Naval Flanker would be hawt. But it aint happenen.

 

Naval Fulcrum is way howterer

especially the 9-31 which is howterest

[MiGCap1]

22 hours ago, Gierasimov said:

I honestly struggle to understand your point, but let us NOT derail this thread please. Share a nice photo of Fulcrum instead

 

Okay.

Here are two of our German FULCRUMS from the time they flew for the dark side of the Force.   

I had the golden opportunity to get two rides as a West German Luftwaffe officer in East German MiG-29s before re-unification.

 

[Fromthedeep]

Why would it help if it was a German variant? Still the same combat related avionics.

[Mike Force Team]

Since there is the publicly available information on the Mig-29, the Russian jet might be based on the German version.  I agree with one post that suggested the German variant.  When East Germany merged with West Germany when the Cold War ended, the German Luftwaffe inherited the cold war relic jets.  Seems like a logical solution, along with the short Tik Tok video we saw posted recently, suggesting this jet might be available at some time in the future.

Mike Force Team

[Mike Force Team]

@NineLine and @BIGNEWY We read the responses saying ED is thinking about the mig-29. As a virtual pilot, i will buy as a full-fidelty module should it be offered. My comments as an interested buyer. 

Mike Force Team

[MiGCap1]

Yes, we took over 20 MiG-29A's and four MiG-29UB's from the East German Air Force and converted them to MiG-29G's (G for "Germany") and GT's (for "German Trainer"). If you do a module for an A You also have an East German jet and an early Luftwaffe jet. You can "germanize" it easily (changing for example the altimeter from meters to feet and so on) which of course would help all our Western players to use the jet. And You have the choice between the red and the blue side in the game ... just change the nationality markings. 

Edited February 16, 2023 by MiGCap1

[Mike Force Team]

@@NineLine and @BIGNEWY We read the responses saying ED is thinking about the mig-29. As a virtual pilot, i will buy as a full-fidelty module should it be offered. My comments as an interested buyer. 

@MiGCap1 The information on the former East German jets negates the argument of having information that that manufacturer's country might object to.

Mike Force Team

[Eldur]

7 hours ago, Mars Exulte said:

 It's a fan page, at a glance. Random tiktok polls and ''hashtag like my plane'' isn't really their style.

You must have hit another channel... https://www.tiktok.com/@digitalcombatsim looks like real to me pretty much. Just clicked through a bunch and even the comment replies are the same way as on YT.

 

As for the topic: Of course! And more so than the Flanker actually...

[Dragon1-1]

I'd love a MiG, too. Tiktok is a weird place to make such a post, but OK. Maybe they already know forumgoers want the MiG, and want to see how many people elsewhere.  

[BIGNEWY]

7 hours ago, Mike Force Team said:

@NineLine and @BIGNEWY We read the responses saying ED is thinking about the mig-29. As a virtual pilot, i will buy as a full-fidelty module should it be offered. My comments as an interested buyer. 

As we have mentioned many times it is something we would like to do, but we have no news to share currently. 

But thank you for your interest. 

[Gierasimov]

MiG-29A -114- delivered in 1990, assigned to 1.ELT (1st Tactical Aviation Squadron).

Edited February 16, 2023 by Gierasimov

[Dragon1-1]

7 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

...but we have no news to share currently. 

No, just endless teasing.  

[FlankerKiller]

7 hours ago, BIGNEWY said:

As we have mentioned many times it is something we would like to do, but we have no news to share currently. 

But thank you for your interest. 

Again I wouldn't presume to tell you guys how to run your business. But you do have alot, and I mean alot, on your plates at the moment. Let the third parties populate the late Cold War a bit more.  Then drop an A model into the middle of that environment. I personally would skip meals to buy a Mig-29A if it was released tomorrow. But even I would rather wait until some of the announced Cold War jets are out in the ecosystem. The hunter will be more fun once it's proper pray is available. 

Edited February 16, 2023 by FlankerKiller
Grammar errors and typos

[Fliegerkalle]

Yeah I would instantly do and buy a FF Mig29    And I know many player which would also buy it. There is definitively a market for that. And the CW scenario is the best. 

[Gierasimov]

[Mars Exulte]

13 hours ago, Eldur said:

You must have hit another channel... https://www.tiktok.com/@digitalcombatsim looks like real to me pretty much. Just clicked through a bunch and even the comment replies are the same way as on YT.

 I dunno *shrug*

9 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

I'd love a MiG, too. Tiktok is a weird place to make such a post, but OK. Maybe they already know forumgoers want the MiG, and want to see how many people elsewhere.  

OpFor planes are pretty heavily requested....not to mention a lot of them are really iconic aircraft. Should be a no brainer.

The only possible reason for objection I could see would be an early model when our primary BluFor planes are all 2000s+. You can gimp Blu to make them more competitive, but IMO, they should just swallow the bitter pill and improvise functionality. They have enough experience and knowledge to create feasible systems, and realistically the specific details of the UI and functions may vary, but any modern glass cockpit aircraft is going to have approximately the same things in them, plus or minus.

 If more detailed info becomes available later, they can always adjust it to be more accurate, ala RazBam and the Mirage 2000, which was clearly ''improvised'' a certain amount then improved with AdA participation later.

All assuming even an improvised plane won't piss off the government of course, if it will, then best to not bother.

[Harlikwin]

18 hours ago, Fromthedeep said:

Why would it help if it was a German variant? Still the same combat related avionics.

Cuz ED can claim the docs aren't russian. Its a polite fiction, but if you look at the russian espionage laws its ok for docs to move into russia, just not out of russia. Plus there is a distinction between "soviet" and "russian".

 

[Dragon1-1]

Most people, including ED, don't want an "improvised" late generation MiG, we want a realistic one. See what's going on with J-8PP, and that's a real plane. Besides, most MiG-29s flying today are of the A model. No matter which model they decide to do, they shouldn't make stuff up, because people trust them to make realistic systems.

And no, not all glass cockpit aircraft have the same things. You just can't make a fake cockpit and think it'll stand up to scrutiny, since it won't. RAZBAM did a very silly thing with the Mirage 2000, and until they overhauled it, the prevailing advice was "don't buy that plane".

[Gierasimov]

21 hours ago, MiGCap1 said:

Yes, we took over 20 MiG-29A's and four MiG-29UB's from the East German Air Force and converted them to MiG-29G's (G for "Germany") and GT's (for "German Trainer"). If you do a module for an A You also have an East German jet and an early Luftwaffe jet. You can "germanize" it easily (changing for example the altimeter from meters to feet and so on) which of course would help all our Western players to use the jet. And You have the choice between the red and the blue side in the game ... just change the nationality markings. 

 

This is an example of one of these Fulcrums. Accepted by NVA (Luftstreitkräfte) in 1988 with number 604, then in 1990 changed to Luftwaffe with number 29+01 (as I understand it was converted to "G" around 1995) and in 2004 transferred to Polish Air Force with bort number 4116.

Remarkable history for such Fulcrum!

 

Edited February 16, 2023 by Gierasimov

[MiGCap1]

Nice!

Here I caught her – fully armed – and her sister 29+03 going straight up into the wild blue yonder when we brought her as static display to the Berlin air show ILA 96:

Six years earlier:

 

 

Edited February 16, 2023 by MiGCap1

[Mars Exulte]

15 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

Most people, including ED, don't want an "improvised" late generation MiG

 That's the only kind even on the table, and yes, I know people love to count the rivets around here.

15 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

we want a realistic one.

 Improvised is not necessarily exclusive of realistic. The capabilities can be realistic, if not 100% accurate in fine details. Believe it or not, that basic principle applies to literally EVERYTHING WE HAVE. None of these things are 100%, and huge sections of them are either completely abstracted (radar, iff, rwr) or sometimes entirely absent.

15 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

See what's going on with J-8PP, and that's a real plane.

  I see a few very vocal people wheezing violently about a video game, while the majority of people appear indifferent.

15 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

Besides, most MiG-29s flying today are of the A model.

 True

15 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

No matter which model they decide to do, they shouldn't make stuff up, because people trust them to make realistic systems.

 They literally make up a lot of this. They use references when able, but yeah. Lots of absolute ''pulled out of their ass'' stuff, too. Like RCS values.

15 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

And no, not all glass cockpit aircraft have the same things.

 No, they're not, but then I'm not trying to be pedantic, either. The approximate capabilities of GPS navigation, mfds, etc, are going to be relatively similar. Details and methodology vary, but an engine page is going to display the usual suspects, a stores page will be approximately similar.

15 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

You just can't make a fake cockpit and think it'll stand up to scrutiny

 You literally can when people don't have a reference to know whether it's right or not. It's the literal point. There isn't enough to do it 100%, so you fill in the gaps.

15 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

RAZBAM did a very silly thing with the Mirage 2000

 Jesus forgive them for not getting the nerd cred spot on.

15 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

and until they overhauled it, the prevailing advice was "don't buy that plane".

 That's because a vocal minority are wheezing tryhards that give themselves waaaaay too much credit and take their video games (like this one) waaaaay too seriously.

 I'm largely indifferent to the whole thing, but no it's not a cardinal sin, it is the only way, literally ONLY way, anybody will get the ''equal footing OpFor'' they want, and entirely feasible to do. A relatively accurate systems model with a good flight model will get you 80-90% of the way there. And that's the important part, you're not ACTUALLY flying a fighter jet, you're flying a detailed approximation of one and experiencing the core aspects. The fine details enhance the accuracy of the super specific aircraft, but have little to no bearing on the actual core experience. And 99% of these people can't tell the difference without a direct 1 to 1 comparison handy, and 50% of them just make complaints up on the fly based on their ''feels'' anyway.

[BIGNEWY]

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