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Haukka81

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Still not fixed , latest beta

 

 

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RichardG

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Cause they don't think its broken.

 

Search is a filter, that is suppose to show, or not show, search radars. It has nothing to do with fire control radars. The way it works in game is completely wrong.

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kengou

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I base my opinion of the RWR on how literally every other plane with a Western RWR behaves in this and other sims. I'd find it hard to believe the F-5 behaves differently, and I have no idea why any pilot would want to specifically ONLY show search radars and NOT show high-threat STT and missile locks.

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Northstar98

Northstar98

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The search mode in every other RWR in DCS shows search RADARs in addition to RADARs in any other mode/type, in the F-5E-3 it exclusively shows RADARs in a search mode, and rejects any other mode which means if a bandit STTs you and more importantly launches on you with a Fox 1/Fox 3 in active. You'll hear the RWR giving you audible notifications (well, just the once anyway), but won't display them.

 

Same for SAMs, if a SAM locks you it'll disappear from the RWR if it's in search mode. My understanding is that the RWR should display 'S' RADARs (i.e surveillance RADARs) when in search mode (as well as any other RADAR) and only dedicated threat emitters when not in search mode. Of course for a maximum of 16 RADARs displayed.

 

There's also the fact that the RWR launch/ACT PWR/ and priority(*) lights and handoff mode aren't implemented.

 

It's just one of the F-5E-3s F-5E-3-isms in DCS, alongside the TACAN volume knob (doesn't work until DME is acquired from what I can tell, even if you can clearly hear the TACAN tone and have bearing information) the landing/taxi lights (don't come on unless exterior navigation is on, don't know if that's accurate) and the RADAR being pretty simplified.

 

*While priority mode works, the 'priority' text on the button is supposed to flash if the RWR is in priority mode, but more than 6 contacts are detected (priority restricts the display to 6 contacts, but the RWR will still detect everything it can find).

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Dirkan

Dirkan

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The search mode in every other RWR in DCS only shows search RADARs in addition to RADARs in any other mode, in the F-5E-3 it exclusively shows RADARs in a search mode, which means if a bandit STTs you and more importantly launches on you with a Fox 1/Fox 3 in active. You'll hear the RWR giving you audible notifications, but won't display them.

 

It's just one of the F-5E-3s F-5E-3-isms in DCS, alongside the TACAN volume knob and the landing/taxi lights.

 

I think you misunderstood me. What I meant was Do we have any proof of that ED thinks the current behavior is correct and that's the reason for them not fixing it?

Northstar98

Northstar98

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We don't, I'm just shooting in the dark here.

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Northstar98

Northstar98

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I believe Beamscanner presented evidence some time ago. There should be threads around in the 'bugs' section.

 

Here

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QuiGon

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Here

 

So this is how this thread ended two years ago:

 

Guys no need to keep bumping this, it has been reported, I dont have a timeline on a fix right now.

 

And now?

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Northstar98

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So this is how this thread ended two years ago:

 

And now?

 

Beats me...

 

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Northstar98

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5 hours ago, nessuno0505 said:

Head/tailwind issue has been reported by devs on facebook as fixed for the incoming update; what about the rwr? Why it is not even marked as [reported]?

 

The old thread about it started nearly 4 years ago, was supposedly marked reported but nothing ever happened; we were left with a minimalistic implementation of the RWR, with many of the functions absent, but even the one that is doesn't work properly.

 

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Northstar98

Northstar98

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They updated the database so that the PL-12/SD-10 shows up as an 'M' instead of a 'U'

 

The search mode behaviour, as well as the other missing functionality remains unchanged.

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razo+r

razo+r

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Just now, Volator said:

Looking at today's newsletter, this might actually have been fixed by ED now!!! I can't believe it, I thought I wouldn't live to see the F-5E improved by them.

Gotta test this tonight.

*Will be fixed next week...

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MadKreator

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Very excited for this! Been flying a lot of F5e lately and it always seemed very wrong to have to switch between radars that are searching and radars tracking you.

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lmp

lmp

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This is really welcome news. I mean, I'll have my hands full with the Phantom for some time, but eventually I'll get back to the F-5. I always do :). 

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Northstar98

Northstar98

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Oh my god! :shocking:

I cannot believe it! Is it really, finally going to be fixed, after all this time (~7 years)!? Wow! This is absolutely fantastic news, especially alongside the AIM-9J and a fidelity improvement to the radar.

1 hour ago, MadKreator said:

it always seemed very wrong to have to switch between radars that are searching and radars tracking you.

Yes. Certainly odd for a threat receiver to conceal the presence of threats in their most threatening mode and to hide threats from you when their mode changes (especially to a more threatening one).

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Modules I own: F-14A/B, F-4E, Mi-24P, AJS 37, AV-8B N/A, F-5E-3, MiG-21bis, F-16CM, F/A-18C, Supercarrier, Mi-8MTV2, UH-1H, Mirage 2000C, FC3, MiG-15bis, Ka-50, A-10C (+ A-10C II), P-47D, P-51D, C-101, Yak-52, WWII Assets, CA, NS430, Hawk.

Terrains I own: South Atlantic, Syria, The Channel, SoH/PG, Marianas.

System:

GIGABYTE B650 AORUS ELITE AX, AMD Ryzen 5 7600, Corsair Vengeance DDR5-5200 32 GB, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4070S FE, Western Digital Black SN850X 1 TB (DCS dedicated) & 2 TB NVMe SSDs, Corsair RM850X 850 W, NZXT H7 Flow, MSI G274CV.

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