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[Silver_Dragon]

11 minutes ago, Doc3908 said:

Funny how everyone gets excited about a tail sticking out of Santa's bag in a cartoon video, yet we are still waiting for the La-7 that we expected to come last year...

Octopus-G not put a "release" date on 2023. We need wait news about a "release candidate" by ED first.

[Doc3908]

1 hour ago, Silver_Dragon said:

Octopus-G not put a "release" date on 2023. We need wait news about a "release candidate" by ED first.

Well.... here's the Happy New Year message from Dec. 2022 :

"Happy New Year 2023! 
The outgoing year released "Ishak" into the DCS virtual sky, the coming one will give way to "Lavka". "

For my part, I can't wait for the La-7. If it's anything like the I-16 (and I'm sure it will be), it'll be phenomenal. I love the Po-2 and would jump on it, too, whenever it is Octopus-G releases it, but I'm not gonna hold my breadth. 

 

[dcn]

2小时前，Doc3908说：

Funny how everyone gets excited about a tail sticking out of Santa's bag in a cartoon video, yet we are still waiting for the La-7 that we expected to come last year...

You knew the reason.

[pepin1234]

7 hours ago, Doc3908 said:

Funny how everyone gets excited about a tail sticking out of Santa's bag in a cartoon video, yet we are still waiting for the La-7 that we expected to come last year...

well, the bags with tail have been shown for us to comment about. We don't know much about those projects, but they are there. Nothing to be excited but to be expecting for more news.

[Art-J]

Release plans/estimates longer than 1-2 months in advance are irrelevant and can be safely ignored because as history of DCS shows, they're pretty much never met, either by ED themselves, or by 3rd parties. So that Happy New Year quote from 2022 is pointless really.

New "teaser" details, however, are always interesting insight into future plans of the developer. I can also see how people are more excited about Su-17, as it's the only aircraft from Octopus-G lineup which makes sense in current form of DCS. Mind you, I understand the Russian warbirds are Plexus' labour of love and clearly there's tons of highest quality effort put in them, but even though I'm a warbird enthusiast myself, I'm pretty sure "Fitter" module will outsell all his warbird modules combined.

[Silver_Dragon]

4 minutes ago, Art-J said:

Release plans/estimates longer than 1-2 months in advance are irrelevant and can be safely ignored because as history of DCS shows, they're pretty much never met, either by ED themselves, or by 3rd parties. So that Happy New Year quote from 2022 is pointless really.

New "teaser" details, however, are always interesting insight into future plans of the developer. I can also see how people are more excited about Su-17, as it's the only aircraft from Octopus-G lineup which makes sense in current form of DCS. Mind you, I understand the Russian warbirds are Plexus' labour of love and clearly there's tons of highest quality effort put in them, but even though I'm a warbird enthusiast myself, I'm pretty sure "Fitter" module will outsell all his warbird modules combined.

Coming to ask for explanations as to why this or that project has not come out in 202X is totally irrelevant, here are the examples of Heatblur and its promises and there they continue, since everyone simply makes plans, it is not a promise or written in stone.

Regarding the "warbirds" and their sales, someone has to make them, and WW2 has come to stay at DCS World, let's remember that the Su-17 is in itself a "side project" that seems not to be being developed by Plexus, So there is no problem with Russian birds, because its main developer is dedicated body and soul to his passion of recreating all types of Soviet aircraft from WW2.

[WinterH]

1 minute ago, Art-J said:

Release plans/estimates longer than 1-2 months in advance are irrelevant and can be safely ignored because as history of DCS shows, they're pretty much never met, either by ED themselves, or by 3rd parties. So that Happy New Year quote from 2022 is pointless really.

Well that goes both ways, Silver saying something to the effect of "Octopus-G didn't give a release date on 2023", is just false, as are a good bit of his often rushes to the defense of devs even when no offense is intended by anyone  but at the same time, you are absolutely right too, anyone of us who has been here long enough should know release dates don't mean much of anything, can and will be missed, sometimes by multiple calendar years, and that's just fine. It takes as long as it takes, and we're better off with getting things cooked well enough after all.

As for the warbirds, I absultely love the way warbirds feel in DCS, and hope there will be more devs giving us some. Though we do already have La-7, F4U-1d, and F6F, seems -3 all lined up. But I really, reaaally want Octopus-G to give us that  beautiful Su-17M4 too. It is an aircraft I've been wanting for a long time, in fact could be the only one I'm quite as interested in as I am for F-4E. I know there are other potentials for Su-22/17, but I personally hope for an Octo-G one. Regardless of who makes it though, hope we can get one sooner than later, and most importantly, hope it will be made well. A good, cool, Cold War red striker is something that should be done right hopefully  and I personally have the most faith in Octopus-G among the devs who hinted at making one.

[pepin1234]

On 1/11/2024 at 3:15 AM, Art-J said:

I'm pretty sure "Fitter" module will outsell all his warbird modules combined.

This.

I'm excited to know more about this Su-17 project. Because redfor have been struggling for long time to have a decent bombing task. Whoever made the current DCS developing map road for real was not a smart move. Lot of disbalance and nonsense missions with mixed western and Ru fighters to get a close sense of ground attack capability. Su-17 should get a close approach to a good mission logic. Su-25 it's a CAS very maneuverable but speed is key to get in enemy territory and sadly general Missions most of the time lack frontline, lack a good briefing and lack waypoint. So, the only fix to all that is afterburner and scape.

Edited January 29, 2024 by pepin1234

[pepin1234]

Po-2 still in use in Russia, probably somewhere else.

 

Edited February 2, 2024 by pepin1234

[pepin1234]

 

[Doc3908]

3 hours ago, pepin1234 said:

 

 

Beautiful plane. Interesting that he is flying it from the front cockpit. Usually, bipes are flown solo from the rear cockpit.

[Plexus]

Dear Community!

We can call the past year a time of refining the DCS: La-7 module to meet ED's strict standards, aiming to deliver an iconic virtual aircraft of the highest quality.
And we can confidently say that we are just one step away from the finish line.

Happy upcoming 2025!
We wish you the time and opportunity to fully enjoy our shared passion!

With faith in success,
The OctopusG Team

[YoYo]

Thank you and the same to you (I still hope for An-2 for DCS! ).

[account_so_i_can_download]

Cant wait! It is the bright spot on the redfor horizon.

[Tzigy]

Great news today on the Facebook pages, seems we are getting closer!!!!

[Sunbather]

vor 12 Stunden schrieb Tzigy:

Great news today on the Facebook pages, seems we are getting closer!!!!

Indeed, great news. And just yesterday I read that WW2 was dead in DCS because no new modules are coming out.

Now we just need a Caucasus map in which the modern buildings are replaced with older ones and some cities are reduced in size and some WW2-style airfields.

[bies]

54 minutes ago, Sunbather said:

And just yesterday I read that WW2 was dead in DCS because no new modules are coming out.

"New modules" are the last thing to make DCS feel like WW2 is dead.  Most of older sims modeled just a few WW2 birds but none of that sims feel dead. It's the enviroment that can make WW2 or any other period feel dead or alive. You can have just 2-4 flayable modules, or even 2, with rich enviroment, and still everything will feel alive.

Enviroment = proper era map, proper era variants of flayable aircrafts, reasonable amount of AI air, ground, sea assets, ATC, capmaigns etc. - this makes some period alive or not. And i have to admit DCS WW2 is doing a lot to make it happen in the last few years; improved Normandy map, campaigns, proper voice over ATC in German, British, WW2 asset pack (even if paid).

What would be most welcome are better fitting summer/fall 1944 Normandy era variants of P-51, Bf-109, FW-190A8, Spitfire IX - as they are currentyly either a bit too late (Mustang, Dora, Bf-109K) or a bit too early (early FW-190A early Spitfie IX). And more refined overall ATC.

Edited February 4 by bies

[Sunbather]

vor 56 Minuten schrieb bies:

Enviroment = proper era map, proper era variants of flayable aircrafts, reasonable amount of AI air, ground, sea assets, ATC, capmaigns etc. - this makes some period alive or not. And i have to admit DCS WW2 is doing a lot to make it happen in the last few years; improved Normandy map, campaigns, proper voice over ATC in German, British, WW2 asset pack (even if paid).

What would be most welcome are better fitting summer/fall 1944 Normandy era variants of P-51, Bf-109, FW-190A8, Spitfire IX - as they are currentyly either a bit too late (Mustang, Dora, Bf-109K) or a bit too early (early FW-190A early Spitfie IX). And more refined overall ATC.

Hold on a minute: how do I make the ATC speak German? And can I make my pilot and flight also speak German?

One of the my biggest petpeeves is WW2 games in which the Germans speak thick American.

As to your last paragraph: That's exactly what is needed: more planes/variants of the ones we already have, even if unplayable, and fitting to the timeframe of Summer 1944. Where are the transport aircraft (C-47, Ju-52)? Where are the other heavy bombers (B-24, B-25, Lancaster, Bf 110)? Where are the light bombers (P-38, Ju 87)?

Edited February 4 by Sunbather

[Cunctator]

C-47 was added a long time ago, just the paratroopers shown in videos years ago are still MIA. But yes, more AI planes would add a lot, especially ubiqous types like the Bf-110, Ju-87 or Ju 52. Then we could built missions for the I-16 or La-7 in the wilderness of Kola or Caucasus maps. Or even the once already announced ground attack variants of the FW-190A.

[bies]

1 hour ago, Sunbather said:

Hold on a minute: how do I make the ATC speak German? And can I make my pilot and flight also speak German?

One of the my biggest petpeeves is WW2 games in which the Germans speak thick American.

As to your last paragraph: That's exactly what is needed: more planes/variants of the ones we already have, even if unplayable, and fitting to the timeframe of Summer 1944. Where are the transport aircraft (C-47, Ju-52)? Where are the other heavy bombers (B-24, B-25, Lancaster, Bf 110)? Where are the light bombers (P-38, Ju 87)?

Or, it maight be a German campaign i've played with voices.

And yes, more assets, AI aircrafts, ATC/flight interaction, campaign, proper timeframe variants - this are most important things. Far more important then another module.

[Silver_Dragon]

13 hours ago, bies said:

"New modules" are the last thing to make DCS feel like WW2 is dead.  Most of older sims modeled just a few WW2 birds but none of that sims feel dead. It's the enviroment that can make WW2 or any other period feel dead or alive. You can have just 2-4 flayable modules, or even 2, with rich enviroment, and still everything will feel alive.
Enviroment = proper era map, proper era variants of flayable aircrafts, reasonable amount of AI air, ground, sea assets, ATC, capmaigns etc. - this makes some period alive or not. And i have to admit DCS WW2 is doing a lot to make it happen in the last few years; improved Normandy map, campaigns, proper voice over ATC in German, British, WW2 asset pack (even if paid).
What would be most welcome are better fitting summer/fall 1944 Normandy era variants of P-51, Bf-109, FW-190A8, Spitfire IX - as they are currentyly either a bit too late (Mustang, Dora, Bf-109K) or a bit too early (early FW-190A early Spitfie IX). And more refined overall ATC.

That Is a 3rd party making a module.....They have no control over the WW2 "planeset" if they dont claim a ETO "assets".

That has a ED side work on WW2 assets pack team (and other 3rd parties on PTO), and 2025 and Beyond show a T-34 tank. And remember, many of the actual WW2 aircraft, coming from a old KS from a dead company, rescue by ED, and ED never was a WW2 plans before that dead project.

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Edited February 4 by Silver_Dragon

[Schmidtfire]

I think it's the developers interest and fascination of the La-7 aircraft itself that drives the development forward. He selected a module that he wanted to create. It might not fit with all the other WWII toys in the DCS World sandbox, but that was never the plan. Some players will be creative and "invent" missions where it has a place. Others will just enjoy free-flights. Some players wants to learn the quirks and systems. Others love to take screenshots...

More assets is always welcome, but I don't think this module was created with that in mind. Just look at the F-86F and the MiG-15bis, two very popular modules back in the day.
But no other "Korea period" AI assets has been released.