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In the manual and Chuck's Guide, the mechanics and use of it are explained well, but there is no mention I can find of how actually GET INTO that mode.

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It's only available in A/A mode, lower left on the TAC menu. You can also bring it up quickly on the left DDI, by bumping SCS Left, if there isn't a page that can accept TDC priority on the left DDI already (always in A/A mode).

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If you have a pod equipped, going into an a2a mode defaults to showing the pod on the left DDI, and it being able to become sensor of interest, you can't bump into AZ/EL. I've always found that quite annoying, dunno if there is a workaround.

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7 hours ago, Harker said:

It's only available in A/A mode, lower left on the TAC menu. You can also bring it up quickly on the left DDI, by bumping SCS Left, if there isn't a page that can accept TDC priority on the left DDI already (always in A/A mode).

Castle left stopped working for me after the HOTAS update. I go AA mode or AA weapon select, stores page comes up on left DDI, SCS left and nothing happens. I have to press the DDI buttons to get it to come up.

 

Same thing with EW page in NAV. Did this happen to you?

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4 hours ago, Zyll said:

If you have a pod equipped, going into an a2a mode defaults to showing the pod on the left DDI, and it being able to become sensor of interest, you can't bump into AZ/EL. I've always found that quite annoying, dunno if there is a workaround.

Yeah this is totally incorrect, I don't know why ED hasn't fixed it yet.

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4 hours ago, LastRifleRound said:

Castle left stopped working for me after the HOTAS update. I go AA mode or AA weapon select, stores page comes up on left DDI, SCS left and nothing happens. I have to press the DDI buttons to get it to come up.

 

Same thing with EW page in NAV. Did this happen to you?

Just checked, works for me, as long as I don't have a page that can accept the TDC, on the LDDI.

 

Did the EW page shortcut ever work? I didn't know it was in.

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3 hours ago, Harker said:

Just checked, works for me, as long as I don't have a page that can accept the TDC, on the LDDI.

 

Did the EW page shortcut ever work? I didn't know it was in.

It did before the HOTAS update. Weird. Only ones that work for me are SCS right to get ATK/RADAR and down to get/cycle HSI/SA page. I'll have to play around and see what's going on.

12 hours ago, Zyll said:

If you have a pod equipped, going into an a2a mode defaults to showing the pod on the left DDI, and it being able to become sensor of interest, you can't bump into AZ/EL. I've always found that quite annoying, dunno if there is a workaround.

Work around would be to use the AA weapon select switch, as that brings stores page on the LDDI. However, SCS left doesn't do anything for me with that up. You can try it out it should work.

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It did before the HOTAS update. Weird. Only ones that work for me are SCS right to get ATK/RADAR and down to get/cycle HSI/SA page. I'll have to play around and see what's going on.
Wait, how did you get to EW before? I've been paying very close attention to the DCS Hornet and have never head of this being implimented.

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Speaking of AZ/EL dispaly, recently I noticed, that FOV yellow rectangle do Not show exact limits of radar scan, but fow degrees more (2-3°). So if you move your scan zone so that targets symbol almost touches the yellow line, ... contact will disappear. In other words, there is a blind area on the lower and upper edge of AZ/EL rectangle. IS THIS A BUG? I thing that yes.

If any of you will think the same, will than report this as a BUG.

Luckily, this weird feature doesnt affect the sides of AZ/EL rectangle.
 

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Simillar test done, when I flown straight and set bottom scan altitude on radar display under TDC to my cooaltitude. The AZ/EL FOV yellow line was this 2-3° bellow horizon line.

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Not a bug, by default the AZ/EL display is set to the 15 degree scale, you can change it using the OSB in the top right corner between 15, 30, and 70 degrees.


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7 hours ago, Tholozor said:

Not a bug, by default the AZ/EL display is set to the 15 degree scale, you can change it using the OSB in the top right corner between 15, 30, and 70 degrees.

Of course you can do that.

But radar FOV limits should still represent exact limits of scanned area, even when scaled. There is no reason to have blind stripes inside of radar FOV rectangle.

This what MANUAL say, not a word about blind areas bellow upper and above lower radar FOV limit.

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Gotcha, misunderstood what you were going for. Does the cursor altitude reflect the AZ/EL box better when out closer to 160 as opposed to inside 40? One thing the AZ/EL box doesn't really reflect well is the conical shape of the radar volume when up close and narrow, the box may be drawn to reflect the scan volume at maximum range.


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It shows the scan pattern, not the radar beam itself. The scan pattern is always a rectangle, with the exception of BST, IIRC.

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15 hours ago, Harker said:

It shows the scan pattern, not the radar beam itself. The scan pattern is always a rectangle, with the exception of BST, IIRC.

It have to show radar scanned limits with correct angles (azimuth and elevation angles) for every bar number setting.

If TDC lower height value is at level with airplane, than the bottom yellow line have to be exactly on middle green horizon line. Not 2-3° bellow. Same thing should work for upper scan angle limit.

 

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It have to show radar scanned limits with correct angles (azimuth and elevation angles) for every bar number setting.
If TDC lower height value is at level with airplane, than the bottom yellow line have to be exactly on middle green horizon line. Not 2-3° bellow. Same thing should work for upper scan angle limit.
Yeah, I wasn't debating that. I was just stating that the AZ/EL doesn't show you what the radar beam is doing at all times, just what the full pattern is. And in most cases, the pattern is rectangular.
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