ElvisDaKang Posted October 14, 2021 Posted October 14, 2021 I do not know if this is 2.7 related or not. I havent flown the MiG-15 in a while until today. Maybe since 2.7 come out. I run 2.7 open beta. These are the only problems I am aware of with the MiG-15bis - at least for now Canopy open/close - INOPERATIVE Canopy Emergency Jettison- does not jettison INOPERATIVE ( you SEE levers etc. moving for these functions but NOTHING happens) Ejection - will not eject - INOPERATIVE YES I have rebound keys................. YES I have even......................... Uninstalled the jet ....................and reinstalled the jet.................... to include OBVIOUSLY deleting the MiG-15bis Input files for control and started ALL over with new bindings.............. Problem persists. Anyone else having this issue ? CHEERS MATES !!!! ElvisDaKang
Erlkönig Posted October 15, 2021 Posted October 15, 2021 Not sure about the key bindings for operating the canopy, but yes, ejection has stopped working for me some updates ago.
Rudel_chw Posted October 15, 2021 Posted October 15, 2021 11 hours ago, ElvisDaKang said: Canopy open/close - INOPERATIVE Canopy Emergency Jettison- does not jettison INOPERATIVE ( you SEE levers etc. moving for these functions but NOTHING happens) Ejection - will not eject - INOPERATIVE I tested on my system, and can confirm your finding. It is not a Keybinding issue, hopefully ED will take a look at this soon. 1 For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Flappie Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) I've just tested it while flight. Here's what happens: Ejection ( 3 x Ctrl + E ) : nothing happens Open canopy ( LCtrl + C ) : nothing happens Close cockpit air valve ( Scrollwheel on "Cockpit Air Valve" valve ) : once valve is fully closed, canopy opens and player gets ejected. I then tried it the other way around: Close cockpit air valve: nothing happens (normal) Open canopy: canopy opens and is taken away by wind Ejection: player gets ejected Hasn't it always been this way with the MiG-15bis? Edited October 17, 2021 by Flappie typo 1 ---
Rudel_chw Posted October 17, 2021 Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Flappie said: Hasn't it always been this way with the MiG-15bis? not sure, its been a while since I flew the -15 on actual missions. Edited October 17, 2021 by Rudel_chw For work: iMac mid-2010 of 27" - Core i7 870 - 6 GB DDR3 1333 MHz - ATI HD5670 - SSD 256 GB - HDD 2 TB - macOS High Sierra For Gaming: 34" Monitor - Ryzen 3600 - 32 GB DDR4 2400 - nVidia RTX2080 - SSD 1.25 TB - HDD 10 TB - Win10 Pro - TM HOTAS Cougar Mobile: iPad Pro 12.9" of 256 GB
Tarres Posted October 18, 2021 Posted October 18, 2021 21 hours ago, Flappie said: I've just tested it while flight. Here's what happens: Ejection ( 3 x Ctrl + E ) : nothing happens Open canopy ( LCtrl + C ) : nothing happens Close cockpit air valve ( Scrollwheel on "Cockpit Air Valve" valve ) : once valve is fully closed, canopy opens and player gets ejected. I then tried it the other way around: Close cockpit air valve: nothing happens (normal) Open canopy: canopy opens and is taken away by wind Ejection: player gets ejected Hasn't it always been this way with the MiG-15bis? Yes. If the cockpit seal is presurized, you can´t open the canopy (or close it if you open the cockpit valve first). As IRL since the beginning.
Flappie Posted October 18, 2021 Posted October 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Tarres said: Yes. If the cockpit seal is presurized, you can´t open the canopy (or close it if you open the cockpit valve first). As IRL since the beginning. Thanks. ---
Flappie Posted October 31, 2021 Posted October 31, 2021 As explained above, you have to depressurize the cockpit to be able to open/eject canopy. ---
Erlkönig Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 Ok, but it should be possible to eject the pilot no matter the position of the air conditioning valve, right? This is not possible for me atm.
Flappie Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 (edited) On 10/18/2021 at 1:07 PM, Tarres said: Yes. If the cockpit seal is presurized, you can´t open the canopy (or close it if you open the cockpit valve first). As IRL since the beginning. As I was answering @Erlkönig, I just saw the DCS manual states the player should be able to eject the canopy "whether the cockpit is pressurized or not": Maybe it's a bug after all. I'll report to devs. Edited November 15, 2021 by Flappie ---
Tarres Posted November 15, 2021 Posted November 15, 2021 Yes, you should be able to eject. Maybe a bug regarding the jettison proces.
Art-J Posted November 16, 2021 Posted November 16, 2021 I've just checked Polish manuals for license-built versions of MiG-15 and -17. The emergency procedures vary somewhat between these, but they all say jettisoning canopy first, ejecting second, without depressurising mentioned anywhere. Not speaking Russian, I can't cross-check with original manuals, however. 1 i7 9700K @ stock speed, single GTX1070, 32 gigs of RAM, TH Warthog, MFG Crosswind, Win10.
ElvisDaKang Posted November 17, 2021 Author Posted November 17, 2021 Not sure when having to de pressurize the cockpit should be ( or was) in the sim or real world a prerequisite to eject ? I dont know what I dont know. I DO KNOW for a fact that in the past before I initiated this thread that I could eject from the 15 without having to depressurize the cockpit. One ejects in emergencies that may or may not lend themselves to doing a depress. procedure. What if the depress. sequence is inop or damaged? One thing is CERTAIN - before or after the addition of this depress requirement in the sim or bug - IF - you can eject the cockpit is going to depressurize on its on. Why was adding a depress requirement necessary. If the answer is to be ""authentic"" it is what it is - I could live without it but I aint drivin the bus. ; )
Flappie Posted November 17, 2021 Posted November 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, ElvisDaKang said: One thing is CERTAIN - before or after the addition of this depress requirement in the sim or bug - IF - you can eject the cockpit is going to depressurize on its on. Why was adding a depress requirement necessary. If the answer is to be ""authentic"" it is what it is - I could live without it but I aint drivin the bus. ; ) It is a bug, and it has been acknowledged as such by devs. Wait and see. ---
ElvisDaKang Posted November 17, 2021 Author Posted November 17, 2021 It is a bug. Found a message tech support replied to I had not seen. They are aware of of it.
ElvisDaKang Posted December 9, 2021 Author Posted December 9, 2021 This issue is SOLVED. No depressurization required now. BANG - out you go !!!! 2
Lixma 06 Posted December 9, 2021 Posted December 9, 2021 13 hours ago, ElvisDaKang said: This issue is SOLVED. No depressurization required now. BANG - out you go !!!! Are you using open beta? I'm using stable and still can't eject properly.
iFoxRomeo Posted December 9, 2021 Posted December 9, 2021 Negative. Not solved in current open beta. Spoiler PC Specs: Ryzen 9 5900X, 3080ti, 64GB RAM, Oculus Quest 3
gulredrel Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 @ElvisDaKang Looks like it didn't make it into the pre christmas updates. Did a test yesterday in 2.7.9 stable and the issue is still there. Let's hope for the next updates.
Skrzatek Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 Did I miss something? Because it looks like this problem has NOT been solved.
Flappie Posted July 5, 2022 Posted July 5, 2022 Which is why the thread is still tagged "reported". ---
hsth Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 May we ask if the fix for this bug could be added to the next release update? Thanks.
Flappie Posted February 8, 2023 Posted February 8, 2023 I've just bumped the internal report. 2 3 ---
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