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Floyd1212

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This was part of another thread that got merged, so posting again in its own thread...

As of the 9/21/2022 patch, the Symbology Select Switch Up and Down is bugged when playing in multiplayer with a human CPG.  Once the human CPG joins the aircraft, the Up and Down commands will "double press" so that it won't stay on the desired mode.  (Work-around: You can quickly press Up twice to get it to execute 3 times, and stay on Transition Mode, for example.)

This does not occur in SP, or in MP when George is in the front seat, only when a human CPG is present.

Note: These binds were cleared in this patch release, so you will need to rebind these functions as well.

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Raptor9

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Just to make sure I understand the precise conditions this occurs.

If a single human is in multiplayer, but flying alone in either seat, the symbology select works as it should. But as soon as a second human joins in multiplayer, that's when it doesn't work correctly any more? And does it work incorrectly for both human players after the second human joins, or just one crewstation?

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Your explanation is correct. Once you are alone in the MP, the modes work as they should. As soon as a human CPG gets in, the error occurs. And the error occurs on the pilot seat as well as on the CPG seat.

 

Edit: Added track files from CPG seat.

 

IHADDS-Symb.Bug.trk DxDiag.txt Logs.zip

IHADDS-Symb.Bug_CPG.trk

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3 hours ago, Swift. said:

Interestingly I've been flying CPG with a human crewmate since the update and had no such issue. Although everyone who's sat in the back has had the issue.

I don't typically change the symbology when CPG, since I'm watching TV anyway and changing symbology messes with the pilots helmet display as they are synchronized (are they supposed to be?).

But I have noticed that as pilot they symbology will change twice in rapid succession, which has been a bug with multiple other things. Maybe there is some deeper root cause that needs fixing instead of patching individual buttons that don't work all the time. All of those things also have in common that it only happens in multicrew.

 

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1 minute ago, FalcoGer said:

I don't typically change the symbology when CPG, since I'm watching TV anyway and changing symbology messes with the pilots helmet display as they are synchronized (are they supposed to be?).

But I have noticed that as pilot they symbology will change twice in rapid succession, which has been a bug with multiple other things. Maybe there is some deeper root cause that needs fixing instead of patching individual buttons that don't work all the time. All of those things also have in common that it only happens in multicrew.

 

To note with the pilots double press, its pressing once on depress and again on release. So you if you press and hold it will do a single action and then when you eventually release it does the second action.

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4 minutes ago, FalcoGer said:

as they are synchronized (are they supposed to be?).

Yes.

2 minutes ago, Swift. said:

To note with the pilots double press, its pressing once on depress and again on release. So you if you press and hold it will do a single action and then when you eventually release it does the second action.

Thanks for that additional information.

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Didnt happen to me the other day, but today it happened. Unable to get the desired symbology, can only get the ladder or the hover point symbology. The other two symbologies i had to keep my SS switch held down.

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Can confirm this is happening for me as well (back seat in multiplayer with a human CPG). Works fine as backseat when in single player or in a multiplayer server with George as CPG. 

 

This only happens to me with a human CPG. 

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The same thing happened to me last night. I rarely play multi-crew so when I had a human CPG, I got the same indication as the OP. Human CPG caused the Symbology Select to "skip" over Transition mode and went into Navigation mode.

Here is a link to my track file because it is VERY large. The unit to watch is the AH-64 with multi-crew DarkHelmet as Pilot and Usul as Co-pilot/Gunner.

Sym Select error example - DarkHelmet (Pilot) Usul (CPG)

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On 9/26/2022 at 5:35 PM, Swift. said:

Interestingly I've been flying CPG with a human crewmate since the update and had no such issue. Although everyone who's sat in the back has had the issue.

Developing on this. This issue presents for whoever is on the controls, either front or back. And not for the pilot not on the controls.

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GeoS72

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I found that rapidly selecting Sym Select Switch up twice will select the Transition mode. Use it like a double-click of a mouse button. It would be great to see this minor bug get squashed in the next update.

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Just had this happen to me in MP, human CPG makes symbology select mess up. 

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On 9/26/2022 at 5:52 PM, Raptor9 said:

Just to make sure I understand the precise conditions this occurs.

If a single human is in multiplayer, but flying alone in either seat, the symbology select works as it should. But as soon as a second human joins in multiplayer, that's when it doesn't work correctly any more? And does it work incorrectly for both human players after the second human joins, or just one crewstation?

I can also confirm this bug. It appears in multicrewing for both crewmembers.

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Should rather be labelled as reported or investigating.

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