single push to eject keybind

[9thHunt]

I get the importance of having to push ctrl-e three times, so you don't accidentally eject, but that makes it rather difficult to assign the eject function to a button control.  Can we get an alternate keybind that you only have to push once?

[SharpeXB]

You don’t want this…

[falconzx]

Nobody want this, lol

Map alt+e to a button and press it 3 times, i don't see the problem

[Rudel_chw]

5 hours ago, 9thHunt said:

Can we get an alternate keybind that you only have to push once?

If you have a thrustmaster hotas, you can use its Target utility to do it. On my case, I have to press three buttons simultaneously to get ejected, to prevent unwanted ejection.

[draconus]

It works with 1 press in the Tomcat, and I like it that way, despite the binding called "Eject (push 3 times)"

[9thHunt]

21 hours ago, falconzx said:

Nobody want this, lol

Map alt+e to a button and press it 3 times, i don't see the problem

I don't know what's wrong with that, I'm not saying we should do away with the default push x3 behavior, just add an option to bypass it.  I don't generally hit my eject button by accident, but I have been killed many times in this game by my eject button not registering 3 pushes fast enough.  And, unfortunately, most of the macro software I've tried doesn't have an option to send a command three times in quick succession with one button push.

 

[LeCuvier]

I have never seen the triple command as a big problem, but there is a simple LUA edit to execute the underlying command "iCommandPlaneEject" 3 times with a single button press.
To achieve this, I added the following line of code

{down = iCommandPlaneEject, pressed = iCommandPlaneEject, up = iCommandPlaneEject,	name = _('Eject (press once)'),	category = _('Systems')},

into the file "default.lua" in the folder "K:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Config\Input\UiLayer\keyboard". This creates the new keyboard command "Eject (press once)" in the UI Layer. This will make the command available for all modules that use the command ""iCommandPlaneEject" with a single binding. The remaining challenge is to find a key combination not yet used for any command, but the new 2.8 functionality helps with that. You could also make the command available for game controllers by adding it into the "default.lua" under "...\joystick".

Edited November 10, 2022 by LeCuvier

[Hoirtel]

On 11/8/2022 at 5:07 AM, 9thHunt said:

I don't know what's wrong with that, I'm not saying we should do away with the default push x3 behavior, just add an option to bypass it.  I don't generally hit my eject button by accident, but I have been killed many times in this game by my eject button not registering 3 pushes fast enough.  And, unfortunately, most of the macro software I've tried doesn't have an option to send a command three times in quick succession with one button push.

 

Pretty sure voice attack will do this. Not using voice either although you could set it do eject on command....

Edited November 10, 2022 by Hoirtel

[Tank50us]

On 11/7/2022 at 1:52 AM, falconzx said:

Nobody want this, lol

Map alt+e to a button and press it 3 times, i don't see the problem

Actually, if you're doing this for a SimPit and wanting to pull an ejection handle. In the real world, that's a single pull... not three.

[LeCuvier]

14 hours ago, Tank50us said:

Actually, if you're doing this for a SimPit and wanting to pull an ejection handle. In the real world, that's a single pull... not three.

Good point!

[falconzx]

Just bind the ejection handle to a macro via software. Or put the ejection handle over a 3 stage switch

[Rudel_chw]

I find it too risky to bind the eject to a single button press ... at the very least it should be a long press (say, 0.5 sec or more). For me, I will stick to a triple button press (I use trigger + shift + paddle) ... never have had an accidental ejection

 

Edited November 12, 2022 by Rudel_chw

[Tank50us]

3 hours ago, Rudel_chw said:

I find it too risky to bind the eject to a single button press ... at the very least it should be a long press (say, 0.5 sec or more). For me, I will stick to a triple button press (I use trigger + shift + paddle) ... never have had an accidental ejection

 

 

what could be done instead is have an optional bind that is, by default, blank. And for those building simpits they bind the ejection handle to that.

[TEMPEST.114]

On 11/7/2022 at 7:52 AM, falconzx said:

Nobody want this, lol

Map alt+e to a button and press it 3 times, i don't see the problem

I do. Don't speak for others or about things you don't know about. If this feature isn't useful to YOU it doesn't mean it's not useful to plenty of OTHER people. Don't be so selfish or entitled. You don't speak for everyone. 

[Hoirtel]

1 hour ago, Elphaba said:

I do. Don't speak for others or about things you don't know about. If this feature isn't useful to YOU it doesn't mean it's not useful to plenty of OTHER people. Don't be so selfish or entitled. You don't speak for everyone. 

You can do this with voice attack. It will let you do multiple key presses based on a trigger of your choice. Software is designed to do this using voice as trigger, but it can easily be any other key press from any device. Maybe not great if you don't use VA, already but once you adding in voice calling for game controls (menus, rearming, pausing, ready pre contact) it's hard to go back. 

I have a single command that does multiple F-menu key presses, taking me from nothing directly into a sub menu. 

Edited November 13, 2022 by Hoirtel

[Tank50us]

5 hours ago, Elphaba said:

I do. Don't speak for others or about things you don't know about. If this feature isn't useful to YOU it doesn't mean it's not useful to plenty of OTHER people. Don't be so selfish or entitled. You don't speak for everyone. 

exactly. As I said, such a keybind is useful for people who are building simpits, since they're only going to yank on one handle *once* and out they go in the real jet... as it should be here as well.

[LeCuvier]

It's funny how many people are trying to tell us that our "wishes" are wrong. Maybe there should be a dedicated "Anti-Wishlist" subforum for them?
Personally I have added the single-press command decribed above into the UI Layer "default.lua" and bound it to the right Window key on my keyboard.
And should I accidentally press that key I shall feel nor pain nor regret - it's a game!

[Rudel_chw]

1 hour ago, LeCuvier said:

It's funny how many people are trying to tell us that our "wishes" are wrong. Maybe there should be a dedicated "Anti-Wishlist" subforum for them?

 

I was just trying to be helpful, so he could have his wish sooner

 

[SharpeXB]

You all do realize it seems most modules have options to map every lever and switch right? So for Eject there’s “Eject (3 times)” plus a bunch of other options for the handles or a single command. At least a quick look at the ones I own appear to offer a range of choices. 

[gianlu320]

I built an ejection handle and I also had to find a way to make the ejection happen after only one keypress.

I did it by using a brillant software called Rsmapper

It works perfectly

[falconzx]

13 hours ago, Elphaba said:

I do. Don't speak for others or about things you don't know about. If this feature isn't useful to YOU it doesn't mean it's not useful to plenty of OTHER people. Don't be so selfish or entitled. You don't speak for everyone. 

Do not confuse what you want with how you want it. In this topic there are very useful solution to the problem that respect probably the everyone needs. Discussions are useful when you can collect a lot of ideas and choose the best one.

[LeCuvier]

This is a wish list, and the wish of the OP is a single-press Eject command to be provided by ED. 3rd party programs are just work-arounds for missing functionality; and whether they are "very useful solutions ... respecting everyone's needs" is debatable.

[TEMPEST.114]

52 minutes ago, falconzx said:

Do not confuse what you want with how you want it. In this topic there are very useful solution to the problem that respect probably the everyone needs. Discussions are useful when you can collect a lot of ideas and choose the best one.

If you think you just made a point different to the one I made, I think you need to re-read it again. /smh

I can see you haven't read Wheaton's Law yet too.

Edited November 13, 2022 by Elphaba

[9thHunt]

On 11/10/2022 at 2:32 PM, LeCuvier said:

I have never seen the triple command as a big problem, but there is a simple LUA edit to execute the underlying command "iCommandPlaneEject" 3 times with a single button press.
To achieve this, I added the following line of code

{down = iCommandPlaneEject, pressed = iCommandPlaneEject, up = iCommandPlaneEject,	name = _('Eject (press once)'),	category = _('Systems')},

into the file "default.lua" in the folder "K:\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World OpenBeta\Config\Input\UiLayer\keyboard". This creates the new keyboard command "Eject (press once)" in the UI Layer. This will make the command available for all modules that use the command ""iCommandPlaneEject" with a single binding. The remaining challenge is to find a key combination not yet used for any command, but the new 2.8 functionality helps with that. You could also make the command available for game controllers by adding it into the "default.lua" under "...\joystick".

 

I've done some modding to the control .luas before, the only problem with that is it gets overwritten every time there's a DCS update.

[Baldrick33]

I have eject mapped to a toggle switch which has a cover. So I am not concerned about pressing it by accident even in VR.

I don’t want to have to turn a toggle switch on and off three times so I use Joy2Key to map it to a key which repeats quickly, I than map this key to eject or eject (press 3 times) depending on aircraft. JoyPro allows me to do this in one go and map across every aircraft.