New To DCS - Twist Axis?

[bigfoot21075]

Hi Everyone!

I just downloaded this great looking program and are about to buy a module. I am a disabled Vet and can't use rudder pedals. I have a twist axis VTK Flight stick along with my Warthog HOTAS. I just got a new higher end PC so I should be able to run DCS fairly well. Before I REALLY delve into this I wanted your thoughts on if the twist axis is going to be OK or just a road to frustration. I APPRECIATE your thoughts! I can fly the free P-51 OK it seems (BTW DCS has FANTSTIC audio with the F3 flyby and the trainer P-51 IMHO). I am looking at the P-47 (I have ALWAYS loved this plane) and the 109 (I am guessing the Germans always have less multiplayer flyers than the allies).

 

THANKS AGAIN!

 

 

 

Edited December 22, 2022 by bigfoot21075

[razo+r]

Twist axis is okay. It's a good intermediate between nothing and pedals, and it's alright to fly with.

[Sacarino111]

Hi from Spain!

Sad about your handicap, but "if there is a wish, there is a path". The Twisting axle is not the best solution, but sure is better than nothing. It will take some time to get used to it, but finally you will be happy with the desition. The big loosing is the wheel brakes, but better no brakes than no rudder.

Go for it and you will enjoy it!

Saludos.

Saca111

Edited December 22, 2022 by Sacarino111

[silverdevil]

24 minutes ago, bigfoot21075 said:

Hi Everyone!

I just downloaded this great looking program and are about to buy a module. I am a disabled Vet and can't use rudder pedals. I have a twist axis VTK Flight stick along with my Warthog HOTAS. I just got a new higher end PC so I should be able to run DCS fairly well. Before I REALLY delve into this I wanted your thoughts on if the twist axis is going to be OK or just a road to frustration. I APPRECIATE your thoughts! I can fly the free P-51 OK it seems (BTW DCS has FANTSTIC audio with the F3 flyby and the trainer P-51 IMHO). I am looking at the P-47 (I have ALWAYS loved this plane) and the 109 (I am guessing the Germans always have less multiplayer flyers than the allies).

 

THANKS AGAIN!

i started using a twist axis and still think using hands for the yaw is much more coordinated than feet. i switched to peddles because i was flying warbirds and one needs left and right wheel brakes mapped to an axis. buttons never seemed to cut it. 

[Nirvi]

If you are using standalone version of DCS, you can also test every aircraft for free during 2 weeks. So you can try every plane before buying. 

[peachmonkey]

usually, the twist axis is the first step to getting some yaw/rudder action in the flight sim. You'll be totally fine with it. People 'upgrade' to pedals (in my personal subjective experience) is mostly driven by the authenticity factor first and the technicalities second. It's a lot easier to train your hands than your feet imho (very subjective imho).   Personally, when I was using a twist axis with X52 hotas I was continuously and unintentionally twisting the stick handle to the left (yaw to the left), which was mostly due to the ergonomics of the handle vs your hand, so if your stick supports twist axis AND the ability to rotate the handle counter-clockwise for better ergonomics, then you'll be totally fine as long as your hand is comfortable in the straight and trimmed flight.

[grafspee]

@peachmonkey I went through same way, started with twist and upgraded to rudder pedals, at the beginning it was a nightmare for me, but reason at least for me was that i was used to twist and my brain was prioritizing hand twisting over legs movement. Once you learn so called muscle memory it is much harder to learn other way.

Imho if you have enough founds, go straight for rudder pedals, if not, what i can say, you have no choice but to use twist joystick, like me hehe

[Doughguy]

A mate of mine is using twist for rudder aswell.

He has problems with breaks tho as cause they rather need an axis input.

[Voyager]

I recall some throttles also have a rudder bar on them. I gather that's a bit more precise than the twist axis, but may not work well with aircraft that require a lot of throttle knobs like the P-47.

Isn't Nick Grey also unable to use pedals? Does anyone recall if he leans towards twist axis or a throttle rudder bar? 

[silverdevil]

On 1/5/2023 at 7:11 PM, Voyager said:

I recall some throttles also have a rudder bar on them. I gather that's a bit more precise than the twist axis, but may not work well with aircraft that require a lot of throttle knobs like the P-47.

Isn't Nick Grey also unable to use pedals? Does anyone recall if he leans towards twist axis or a throttle rudder bar? 

i seem to think @Wags said in the apache video that he did not use pedals. i could be totally wrong too. i really liked my T16000M set because it had a twist axis on stick and the paddle on the throttle. i just got new Footrests Kit for my MFG pedals, P-47 model. i like it better than the ME109 model i got with it. 

Edited January 23, 2023 by silverdevil

[Bloyamind]

I use the twist axis of my t16000m, because that's what I have. Secondary reason is that i'm disabled too. For me it works great, of course I haven't been able to try anything else, but using my left hand on the flippers of my throttle seems to screw with my brain. So twist it is!  Enjoy flying! 

[Gambit21]

On 12/22/2022 at 2:10 AM, razo+r said:

Twist axis is okay. It's a good intermediate between nothing and pedals, and it's alright to fly with.

Bah...I've used a twist axis for 25 years and have never been at a disadvantage online or off.

I've never been beaten by a guy because he had rudder pedals. It's all muscle memory, and you have just as fine control with a twist axis (so long as you have a good stick) as you do with rudder pedals. 

 

 

[Taz1004]

I have steering wheel pedal at my foot so I use rotary on my throttle as rudder.  Good thing about using rotary is it works like rudder trim and don't have to apply constant input.  Great for helos.

Edited January 22, 2023 by Taz1004