Thrustmasters TPR or MFG Crosswinds v3?

[tomcat_driver]

TPR 439€ vs MFG CW v3 349€

Which one would you choose?

[Biggus]

Crosswinds.  Love mine.

Also I'll never give TM another cent.

[tomcat_driver]

Thanks

[Mr_sukebe]

TPR, and I have both

[Eugel]

I chose the TPRs and don´t have anything negative to say about them, quite the opposite.
I never used the Crosswinds myself so I can´t say which are better, but I prefer the pendular mechanics of the TPRs.

[Burt]

TPR for sure !  I don’t like having my feet on the pedals all time the TPR are just perfect.

[Tinker]

TPR's were available locally, so I went with those. Happy to upgrade from 10 year old Saiteks. Ended up building a whole new sim around the pedals.

On 1/12/2023 at 8:03 AM, Burt said:

TPR for sure !  I don’t like having my feet on the pedals all time the TPR are just perfect.

I removed the baseplate to mount the pedals into my rig. Dropped them just enough I can go full-foot or just use my toes.

[BuzzU]

I owned the TPR's and didn't like them. I don't sit low enough to be at the right angle for the pedal movement.

I just ordered the V3's and we'll see how I like those. I actually like my feet on the pedals.

[Aviators]

MFG!

[Biggus]

Crosswinds have different pedal designs.  You don't actually have to have your feet on them all the time.

[Slippa]

Crosswind V3s are solid.
 

I got combat pedals as well as the 109 looking things, toe brakes, hydraulic suspension (extra but fine without it) and I don’t feel robbed a year on. Really well built, easily adjustable, sorted.

 

[tomcat_driver]

I received mine on friday. It's incredibly precise and smooth. It can tip over if you have only one foot on.

Next up is to upgrade it with shocks and maybe get a different footrest. The universal combat was sold out, so I'd got M109.

Overall, pretty happy with it. Flying the apache now is pleasure.

 

Edited January 15, 2023 by tomcat_driver

[BuzzU]

8 hours ago, tomcat_driver said:

I received mine on friday. It's incredibly precise and smooth. It can tip over if you have only one foot on.

Next up is to upgrade it with shocks and maybe get a different footrest. The universal combat was sold out, so I'd got M109.

Overall, pretty happy with it. Flying the apache now is pleasure.

 

 

I know he offers different cams. How is the one the pedals come with? Is there a solid center detent?

Edited January 15, 2023 by BuzzU

[tomcat_driver]

2 hours ago, BuzzU said:

I know he offers different cams. How is the one the pedals come with? It there a solid center detent?

It comes with 2 cams. I'll tried one and it's already good enough, you can clearly feel it centered.

[BuzzU]

Ok, thanks.

[silverdevil]

for those with MFG, what foot rests do you use? i use ME109. not sure they are the best for me. do the other foot rests give any improvement?

[Lange_666]

I use combat style foot rests on my MFG (got them sended over by Milan for testing). The ones i have have a few more fixing holes in them to get the position i wanted.
I didn't like the original ME109's.

[silverdevil]

20 minutes ago, Lange_666 said:

I use combat style foot rests on my MFG (got them sended over by Milan for testing). The ones i have have a few more fixing holes in them to get the position i wanted.
I didn't like the original ME109's.

thanks. these are out of stock but i can surely wait. some of the others are similar looking to the combat rests..

[dburne]

I have been running my Crosswinds since Dec 2015. I retired in April 2016 and have used these things hard on most every day. They are solid as can be and I have been most pleased with them. Added a damper about a year or so ago and that just made already great pedals even a little better.

 

[Lange_666]

12 hours ago, silverdevil said:

thanks. these are out of stock but i can surely wait. some of the others are similar looking to the combat rests..

These are the ones i have fitted:

As you can compare with those on the MFG website, these have a lot more fixing holes in them.
With these i can keep my heels on the floor and use my toes to brake. With the ME1009's i never could find a good setup.

Below are the original test pedals i got from Milan, less fixing holes, these where still sitting a bit to high but due to the cutout's (which i really liked) it wasn't possible to lower them. Still have them laying around...

PS: just discovered by moving the pedals from under my desk to take a photo: the bolts i used are not of a very good quality, the heads show rust. Guess i snapped the wrong ones from work.

Edited January 16, 2023 by Lange_666

[tomcat_driver]

32 minutes ago, Lange_666 said:

These are the ones i have fitted:

 

Is this a 3rd party supplier?

[Lange_666]

No, i subscribed for a test run on the MFG website. Milan wanted a test group of 30 people in the test run. The first ones i got for testing are the ones with the cutouts. Since i wanted an option to mount them lower, Milan made and send the ones with the 12 fixing holes. I have no idea what the other testers reported or what they got send as test pedals. I see that the ones with the cutouts didn't make into production, and the others i have never tried or seen. Mine don't have the MFG logo either. The ones i have resemble most to the grey ones:

 

I'm also using a modified brake limiter set so i need to put less force on the pedals for braking. I have a set with an extended arm above the upper bolt with more holes for the spring to attach. Milan was so kind to make them on demand after i reported that i wanted to use less power for braking because using combat pedals requires a bit more force under braking compared to the ME109 pedals.
I now see on the website that you can get a set of lighter springs instead.

Edited January 16, 2023 by Lange_666

[nervousenergy]

Third option:  the best pedals in the world right now (IMHO, of course) are Slaw Device.  Not sure about availability these days, but my 109's are still a mechanical work of art after 5 years of use.  

[Slippa]

Oh, another option I just discovered.

One minute I’m reading a thread, quite happy with my pedals. Next, I’m counting my pennies and coming up with creative explanations I’ll need for the missus as to why I’ll be ‘needing’ additions. I’m using ‘combat pedals’ similar to the ones Lange pictured. They’re fine. The sturdier ‘109’ fittings are stored away. Flying the Spit, I wouldn’t mind something under my feet that looks the part but until just now I hadn’t given it a lot of thought. I remembered the 3D printed bits from Authentikit and though I haven’t tried any of it I had a look. He’s been a busy boy since I last looked and has Spitfire and Mossie bits. He has rudder pedal attachments for the Spit IX that fit on the MFGs. How well the plastic holds up is beyond me as I’ve not had any of it. I don’t have a 3D printer either. They look the part, I’ll say that. Obviously, not best suited when flying your Hornets or Tomcats.

 

[Lange_666]

3 hours ago, nervousenergy said:

Third option:  the best pedals in the world right now (IMHO, of course) are Slaw Device.  Not sure about availability these days, but my 109's are still a mechanical work of art after 5 years of use.  

They only offer rotor pedals according to their website. Links to their previous devices show empty.