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DCS: F-4E - Episode IV - RADAR Pt. 1 - Basics and Theory

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G.J.S

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Finally, an accurate depiction of the fallible nature of older systems, requiring an “artist” to interpret and get the best out of.

No more ‘point, click and BOOM!’.

Nicely done guys. :thumbup:

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Thanks! Looks great! :thumbsup:

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Looks great, i love it! 🍻

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Looks absolutely incredible!

23 minutes ago, Koriel said:

What's the plane featured just after 9 minutes?

If you're talking about the aircraft at 9:05, it's a Su-24M/MR.

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Raven (Elysian Angel)

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With the ever increasing fidelity and realism of player-controlled aircraft, I wonder how the AI will handle radars in the (near) future. Currently they see everything and can lock you up instantly, but should the AI have a random X% chance to detect you at Y distance (based on skill level) with appropriate delays between detection/lock-on/firing?
I know this is ED's responsibility, but I couldn't help but wonder after watching this Episode... 🤔

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3 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

With the ever increasing fidelity and realism of player-controlled aircraft, I wonder how the AI will handle radars in the (near) future. Currently they see everything and can lock you up instantly, but should the AI have a random X% chance to detect you at Y distance (based on skill level) with appropriate delays between detection/lock-on/firing?
I know this is ED's responsibility, but I couldn't help but wonder after watching this Episode... 🤔

Yeah I thought about that too.

Human RIO or even Jester RIO is never gonna be as effective as AI. 

 

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Omega417

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7 hours ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

With the ever increasing fidelity and realism of player-controlled aircraft, I wonder how the AI will handle radars in the (near) future. Currently they see everything and can lock you up instantly, but should the AI have a random X% chance to detect you at Y distance (based on skill level) with appropriate delays between detection/lock-on/firing?
I know this is ED's responsibility, but I couldn't help but wonder after watching this Episode... 🤔

I thought the most recent HB "Mini Update" had information about this in it. 

 

Tiger-II

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Didn't they say that the RADAR tech developed here would make it into other DCS products? F-5 desperately needs this!

I hope to heck you get the Chromium stuff sorted out ASAP! I can't wait to fly the F-4!

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Hiob

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13 hours ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

With the ever increasing fidelity and realism of player-controlled aircraft, I wonder how ....

...I will manage to keep up with all the stuff to learn. Only so many hours in the day. I once thought about doing another study course in the evenings but dropped the idea when I thought about the 40+ hour full time job I already have. 😅🙈

Becoming proficient in the F-4 will almost need a pilots training...🙈

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falcon_120

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Amazing, HB should be remaking all radar in DCS XD...

On a more serious note, the simulation is mind blowing, let's see how everything integrates with the Simulated world around the F4, and that is for ED to help. Imagine how sad it would be if you were managing all the limitations and nuances of a radar system like the F4 MPQ120, while a Mig21/F1 either AI or a player could shot you down even in a look down situation because... well the simulation of their radars is just not there.

 

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Raven (Elysian Angel)

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7 hours ago, Omega417 said:

I thought the most recent HB "Mini Update" had information about this in it. 

 

I meant the AI in general, not just an AI F-4E.

1 hour ago, Hiob said:

Becoming proficient in the F-4 will almost need a pilots training...🙈

Well, we do have 700-odd page manuals in DCS 😉

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Hiob

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13 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

Well, we do have 700-odd page manuals in DCS 😉

After seeing the latest video, I somehow doubt that it covers everything there is.....😁

I will probably leave the radar stuff in the trusted hands of Jester. 😂😬 (even though I find it fascinating)

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gulredrel

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3 minutes ago, Hiob said:

I will probably leave the radar stuff in the trusted hands of Jester.

Indeed, that's what I'm planning to do in first place. Maybe setting up a small SP mission with some huge IL-76 aircraft flying in a straight line and than trying to lock them while in the WSO seat.

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Raven (Elysian Angel)

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One foot in front of the other 😉

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Hiob

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44 minutes ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

One foot in front of the other 😉

Sorry, I had to....😂

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gulredrel

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36 minutes ago, Hiob said:

Sorry, I had to....😂

How to derail a thread with only one post. 🤣

Regarding the radar, I guess I need to watch it again. With this altitude line coming from the side lobe ground return, you are blind at this distance detecting targets? But this is only relevant at short distances. Is this also a problem once a lock has been established?

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Hiob

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5 minutes ago, gulredrel said:

How to derail a thread with only one post. 🤣

I'm just impressed and intimidated by the radar-video. Those feelings need to go somewhere I guess.

I all seriousness - I'm thoroughly impressed. Just think about the amount of research that must have gone into that. Writing code is one thing, but actually getting the required knowledge about such non-trivial technology.....🙈

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Raven (Elysian Angel)

Raven (Elysian Angel)

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27 minutes ago, gulredrel said:

Regarding the radar, I guess I need to watch it again.

Yes, I’ll have to watch it several times as well.

And we also have part II incoming, which will hopefully clear up some confusion.

 

@Hiob Had to what?image.png 

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