fixed Petrovich Not Spotting Targets After Latest Update

[BoomBoom]

Hi everyone,

Since the latest DCS update, I’ve been experiencing an issue with Petrovich AI in the Mi-24P. He acknowledges that he’s “searching for targets,” but he doesn’t list anything—even when the targets are clearly visible and in plain sight.

Here’s what I’ve tried so far to troubleshoot the issue:

• Ensured the targets are within Petrovich’s field of view and in range.
• Verified that keybindings for Petrovich AI commands are correct.
• Confirmed the weapon systems are armed and properly configured.

I’m wondering if this is a known issue introduced in the latest patch or if there’s a configuration I may have overlooked.

Has anyone else encountered this issue? Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance,
BoomBoom

Edited December 25, 2024 by BoomBoom

[HC_Official]

I just took the hind up for the first time after yesterdays disastrous patch and yes Petrov will not see any targets at all

tried in MP on grayflag Sinai

[Deimos]

Same here ! The Pedrovic-AI seems offline.

i checked this in a single mission in Afghanistan (perfect weather) and everything was fine.

But online it looked like in the video so far.  

Edited December 25, 2024 by Deimos

[K-dot-B]

I tried it in signleplayer and I noticed some weird behaviour. If I turn off the fog entirely Petrovich becomes blind, but when I set some fog with finite visibility he starts spotting units around that specified range. Maybe the AI can't handle a visibility value of infinite/undefined. I'll test it more and post tracks later.

[K-dot-B]

Managed to reproduce it in singleplayer. The second track is an airstart and is much shorter.

Edit: Interestingly, adding fog to the same exact airstart mission will allow Petrovich to see.

mi24_petrovich_blind_9_11.trk

mi24_petrovich_blind2_9_11.trk

Edited December 25, 2024 by K-dot-B

[BIGNEWY]

Dear all,

we have the cause found and are working on a fix. 

It seems to happen for George / Petrovich if the mission fog is set to auto. 

Hopefully we can have a fix out ASAP but for now setting the fog manual or off will help. 

Thank you 

[GREG90]

После обновления ослеп не только петрович, но и ведомые на ка-50, которых посылаешь искать цели, а они возвращаются и говорят, что целей не обнаружено.

Edited December 27, 2024 by GREG90

[DST]

I set up this little mission for target practice, and it seems, petrovic AI is still unable to spot targets also with fog turned to OFF, so no workaround atm it seems

Maybe someone can look into it, maybe it´s me doing something wrong

CaucasusMi24TargetPractice.miz

[admiki]

Mission looks fine, and Petro finds targets.

Can you record track and post track?

 

[DST]

 I'm away from computer now for a while, maybe I overlooked something? Weapons were all turned on, Weapon selector turned to "OFF/MSL", I waited until petro turned on his sight thingie and gave command to search for targets and I can see the crosshair move aimlessly around, and the list of available targets doesn't appear despite I am right in front of the targets. Did they change petrovic handling maybe recently in an update? 

Edited January 10 by DST

[admiki]

Not really. Like I said, everything looks fine adnd when I tested your mission, Petro finds targets.

It's hard to say what the problem is until we can see what you are seeing/doing, so.....

[DST]

I tried again, and to no avail. Petro not spotting targets. What do I miss here, I did a thousand times before, I really don´t get it

Can somebody please look into the trk file?

petro1.trk

[MoleUK]

52 minutes ago, DST said:

I tried again, and to no avail. Petro not spotting targets. What do I miss here, I did a thousand times before, I really don´t get it

Can somebody please look into the trk file?

petro1.trk 2.44 MB · 0 downloads

When I play the track there, he finds the targets. The target list is open with a list of Gaz-66 iirc, I can see you scrolling up/down it as you try and get Petro to re-find targets.

I will say alongside the Fog problem, there is another bug that interferes with Petro's LOS sometimes resulting in him not finding targets. You might be running into that one, at least if the list of targets isn't appearing low down in the screen for you.

The LOS bug is not as bad as it was a few patches ago, I would routinely run into that one in MP. It would require re-approaching the ground targets from a completely different angle, as whatever was blocking the LOS was not blocking it from '360, only certain angles.

It's been suggested that it's some terrain bug, or dead units, or some other unit model blocking the LOS at times. I have never figured out what's doing it as it's not consistent. So next time it happens, just take note of what angle you're aiming from (the south/north etc) and move to another angle to see if he will pick up the targets again. Usually works, but not always.

I don't know when this LOS bug was introduced, but it was a few months back. I ran into it again today so it's definitely still there, it's just not happening as often.

Edited January 12 by MoleUK

[DST]

Thanks for looking into it. I tried from every angle, every distance, always the same, so I´m guessing not a LOS problem. I set up mission on syria map with 4 Busses, same again, list of targest will not appear. It just doesn´t work anymore. Very strange that this happens exclusively for me, I really don´t understand this.

[jonsky7]

9 minutes ago, DST said:

Thanks for looking into it. I tried from every angle, every distance, always the same, so I´m guessing not a LOS problem. I set up mission on syria map with 4 Busses, same again, list of targest will not appear. It just doesn´t work anymore. Very strange that this happens exclusively for me, I really don´t understand this.

Do you have any mods associated with Petrovich? Maybe something that alters the position of the AI controls?

The file
HelperAI_page_common.lua 
which is sometimes used to modify the position of the AI controls has undergone a fairly substantial update recently. 

Edited January 12 by jonsky7

[DST]

36 minutes ago, jonsky7 said:

Do you have any mods associated with Petrovich? Maybe something that alters the position of the AI controls?

The file
HelperAI_page_common.lua 
which is sometimes used to modify the position of the AI controls has undergone a fairly substantial update recently. 

No, only mods I have are A4 Skyhawk and OH6 Helicopter.

56 minutes ago, MoleUK said:

When I play the track there, he finds the targets. The target list is open with a list of Gaz-66 iirc, I can see you scrolling up/down it as you try and get Petro to re-find targets.

This is extremely weird, when I "played" this mission, he says "searching", I could see the crosshair moving around, but no list of targets appeared. This doesn´t make any sense.

[MoleUK]

41 minutes ago, DST said:

No, only mods I have are A4 Skyhawk and OH6 Helicopter.

This is extremely weird, when I "played" this mission, he says "searching", I could see the crosshair moving around, but no list of targets appeared. This doesn´t make any sense.

Not so weird if it's the old LOS bug kicking in tbh. It was always hard to replicate it and it still pops up, albeit infrequently.

[admiki]

Run slow repair.

[MorgothNL]

Hmm, patch notes mention George + fog issue is fixed, no mention of petro + fog fix… let’s hope they forgot to mention it. 
 

Can someone check? I won’t be able to update for a bit

[AhSoul]

7 hours ago, MorgothNL said:

Hmm, patch notes mention George + fog issue is fixed, no mention of petro + fog fix… let’s hope they forgot to mention it. 
 

Can someone check? I won’t be able to update for a bit

Fixed: Petrovich AI does not see the targets when fog is in Auto mod.

I guess they added that into the notes later.....

[DST]

Latest Update fixed everything for me 

[Flappie]

@BoomBoom Is it the same for you?

[AndyJWest]

Petrovich seems not to spot targets for me, though I'll need to test more.

[BIGNEWY]

Ive locked this thread as the main issue of spotting with Auto fog enabled has been fixed. 

If you are still having issues please make a new track replay and a new thread. 

Be aware of the distance to the target and line of sight which often are the cause for petro not seeing a target. 

thank you