East Afghanistan

[Ryno91p]

I got the whole Afghanistan map and none of the eastern part is showing up on the map. Do i have to buy the eastern part?

[Beirut]

Did you update? Are you sure you bought the whole package and not just one part?

[Ryno91p]

for some reason my DCS wasn't updating when i started it. its good now.

[Beirut]

Excellent!  

[Caldera]

So I am going to piggyback on this thread here.  I am still not all the way sure how the Afghanistan map is supposed to work.

I bought the Afghanistan map (actually I think I bought it as soon as it came out), but today is my first use of it.  So I take off from Kandahar, flying to Bagram.  It is a very long flight (A-10C) so I use autopilot and speed up time.  Then I notice that I am "offmap" and Bagram is still a long way off.

When I try to search the ED website for what I paid for originally it indicates "Afghanistan bought" and "South West Afghanistan" still available for purchase.  So I think I indeed purchased the Afghanistan map.

Yesterday I updated DCS to the latest update available and I rechecked today, there are no further updates available.

 

How do I know for sure which map I purchased?

Why does it say "offmap" if I am supposed to have gotten East Afghanistan?

 

Thanks in advance,

Caldera

[t_hedlund]

On 2/22/2025 at 1:49 PM, Caldera said:

So I am going to piggyback on this thread here.  I am still not all the way sure how the Afghanistan map is supposed to work.

I bought the Afghanistan map (actually I think I bought it as soon as it came out), but today is my first use of it.  So I take off from Kandahar, flying to Bagram.  It is a very long flight (A-10C) so I use autopilot and speed up time.  Then I notice that I am "offmap" and Bagram is still a long way off.

When I try to search the ED website for what I paid for originally it indicates "Afghanistan bought" and "South West Afghanistan" still available for purchase.  So I think I indeed purchased the Afghanistan map.

Yesterday I updated DCS to the latest update available and I rechecked today, there are no further updates available.

 

How do I know for sure which map I purchased?

Why does it say "offmap" if I am supposed to have gotten East Afghanistan?

 

Thanks in advance,

Caldera

Hey Caldera, How much did you pay for it? 

Check out the 1st page of the FAQ, it breaks it down by price, it should help you determine which one you purchased. 

 

[Ironhand]

On 2/22/2025 at 2:49 PM, Caldera said:

…When I try to search the ED website for what I paid for originally it indicates "Afghanistan bought" and "South West Afghanistan" still available for purchase.  So I think I indeed purchased the Afghanistan map…

When you go to “My Orders”, if it shows “DCS: Afghanistan Map” as being purchased, you bought the complete map.

[Caldera]

Thanks guys,

I didn't remember when I bought it or how much I paid for it.

This is what I get when I click on BUY.

Why would I get "OFFMAP" blinking in the A-10C HUD just about as soon as I depart Kandahar?

Caldera

[Ironhand]

So you did buy the complete map, not just one section. Even if you had only bought one section, you would still have the complete area. It’s just that only the portion you bought would be highly detailed. That being said, I have no idea why you’re seeing “off map” in the A-10 pit.

[Dallenbach]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb Ironhand:

So you did buy the complete map, not just one section. Even if you had only bought one section, you would still have the complete area. It’s just that only the portion you bought would be highly detailed. That being said, I have no idea why you’re seeing “off map” in the A-10 pit.

Maybe that is the reason:

DTSAS OFF MAP: Displayed when the current aircraft position is off the loaded digital map. Default map size is 150 km.

[Caldera]

Thanks guys,

Dallenbach,

I have no idea what you mean by this:

Maybe that is the reason:

DTSAS OFF MAP: Displayed when the current aircraft position is off the loaded digital map. Default map size is 150 km.

 

So currently, (since I got some spare time) I am sitting on runway 21R at Bagram in the A-10CII.  The textures of the air field don't exactly look low res, but the country side on the way in kind of did.

On the left side of the HUD "OFFMAP" is flashing as "OFFMAP/B1".  And on the right side of the HUD there are four "XXXX" flashing below "0/INITPOS" as "269M/XXXX".

 

I took a look at creating a support ticket, that process is a monster in comical confusion.

 

Any A-10 drivers or moderators take a look and comment?  Would be nice to understand if this was supposed to happen or not.

Feeling like I got ripped off,

Caldera

[rforce]

@Caldera

was it a hot start ?

i have done a cold start at bagram and are now at runway 21R

For me it looks normal.null

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Edited March 14 by rforce

[Minsky]

7 hours ago, Caldera said:

On the left side of the HUD "OFFMAP" is flashing as "OFFMAP/B1".  And on the right side of the HUD there are four "XXXX" flashing below "0/INITPOS" as "269M/XXXX".

...

Would be nice to understand if this was supposed to happen or not.

It's not a map's bug, but the aircraft's feature limitation.

DTSAS can only hold so much data in its memory.

You get this message whenever one of the waypoints in your route is further than ~245 nm from the starting position.

If you have further questions, the A-10C forum would be the better place to ask.

Edited March 14 by Minsky

[Caldera]

OK so oops...

I had flown from Kandahar to Bagram, just checking out the sites.  I will move my base of operations to Bagram and see if anything changes.  I was not aware of the 245nm thing as it had never come up before for me, unless I actually flew off the edge of the map.

From a quick Google search, this was the main base for A-10 operations anyways?

 

To ED's credit, they did respond to my support ticket (and very promptly) and I should get an answer soon as exactly what the status my East Afghanistan map is.

Thanks guys,

Caldera

[H60MTI]

Bagram was one of the main bases for the A-10. When I was at Bagram, the Air Force had HH-60 "Pedro", A-10's, and F-16's. 

[Caldera]

H60,

Do you happen to know the other bases the A-10's operated out of regularly?

[graveyard4DCS]

Kandahar at some point. During the very early days of OEF they departed from Pakistan. 

You can read the Osprey books about A10s during OEF: 2002-2007 and 2008-2014. I also made a short book review here (personal page, not ED's forum) .

Edited March 16 by graveyard4DCS

[Nealius]

Mission making for OEF is going to be a bit like mission making for the Normandy map. Everything really depends on which specific time frame you're wanting to replicate.

[Caldera]

Were there A-10C II In Afghanistan? 

The A-10C II,which are far as I know, is a DCS only name for an actual upgraded A-10C.  I think that the HMD is part of this upgrade, but basically unsure.  The Litening Pod, was certainly required for precision munitions, but I am not sure the time frame from these upgrades taking place.

DCS in general, really sucks at CAS for troops in contact with other troops so I am not entirely sure of the scenarios that I can create all too realistically.

[Minsky]

1 hour ago, Caldera said:

I think that the HMD is part of this upgrade, but basically unsure.  The Litening Pod, was certainly required for precision munitions, but I am not sure the time frame from these upgrades taking place.

They started using the Litening II on the Bagram-based A-10As in October 2003.

The first "Charlies" arrived to Bagram in November 2007.

The HMD actually had its operational debut during OEF, in December 2012.

If you're really into this topic, I would recommend getting the two Osprey books mentioned above.

Edited March 16 by Minsky

[Minsky]

1 hour ago, Caldera said:

Were there A-10C II In Afghanistan? 

The A-10C II,which are far as I know, is a DCS only name for an actual upgraded A-10C.

The "A-10C II" is just a name ED made up for marketing purposes.

As far as I'm aware, there weren't any sub-variants of the A-10C. The jets gradually received several software and hardware upgrades as part of the Precision Engagement program, and that's about it.

Edited March 16 by Minsky

[Nealius]

They really use have named it with the Suite number like Razbam did with the Mudhen. A-10C S.7 or whatever the suite would be for our "II" model.

[Victor3]

On 3/15/2025 at 2:30 PM, graveyard4DCS said:

Kandahar at some point. During the very early days of OEF they departed from Pakistan. 

You can read the Osprey books about A10s during OEF: 2002-2007 and 2008-2014. I also made a short book review here (personal page, not ED's forum) .

I'm about halfway through the second book, lots of great info/stories. I highly recommend them both!

[pimp]

I am really impressed how good East AFG looks. Especially around Bagram area. Very nice mesh work.

[BIGNEWY]

5 minutes ago, pimp said:

I am really impressed how good East AFG looks. Especially around Bagram area. Very nice mesh work.

thank you pimp, appreciate the kind words.