DCS: Cold War Germany - preview

[OneEyeRoss]

A few things I want to do:  Overfly Hohenfels, Grafenwohr and Wildflicken training areas.  Land a chopper in Romerplatz, Ffm.  Drive a jeep from Friedberg to Alsfeld.  Drive a jeep down Kaiserstrasse, Ffm and see how the lights of the "houses" look in DCS.   Too many things....going to be fun.

[Stanlesuper]

This map looks OK regarding 3D objects, but the colors and textures on the ground, roads and trees are really disappointing.

I'm sure they'll deliver it like it is, as it has been done since Normandy and Syria...

The care taken is not the same as Iraq, for example.

We're in 2025 I think the dcs customers deserve something much more realistic in terms of fidelity.

 

Stan

Edited March 18 by Stanlesuper

[RVT2403]

I am super happy Ugra did not go for satellite imagery but does proper, good looking textures. Satellite imagery looks like crap and i regret wasting money on Kola and Afghanistan. I had uninstalled both soon after buying.

[VFXBLENDER]

I mean Afghanistan and Kola look pretty decent in some parts, but then they look like crap for 70% of the map.

[Hotdognz]

This map looks amazing, my hope is that they assigned Dynamic Spawn slots correctly for the appropriate aircraft and helicopters to each base, many DCS maps have them set wrong.

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[RVT2403]

10 minutes ago, Hotdognz said:

This map looks amazing, my hope is that they assigned Dynamic Spawn slots correctly for the appropriate aircraft and helicopters to each base, many DCS maps have them set wrong.

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Germans invented accuracy, we'll certainly use the bug section

[Punkmonkey22]

What year is the map set in?

[Bremspropeller]

Mid 70s to late 80s.

[MAESTR0]

Hallo, Kampfpiloten.
We are glad that you are interested in the map and liked the chosen territory. Thank you for your feedback and information, this is very valuable to us. We do not hide the territory of development, we immediately opened the list of airfields and showed the map so that you know what to expect. But some questions and wishes have appeared (you are so insatiable! ), so we will answer some of them.

Many asked about the date (I will not list them all) for now we can answer that we are planning the release of the map within a year.

@Geschirre, yes, there is Bibturg, it is included in the first phase and, moreover, you will see it this week.

There are a lot of wishes about adding phase 3 airfields and bases located outside the map boundaries. We are happy with this, it means that we have covered all the most important things in phase 1. It is too early to talk about expanding the map (spare your SSDs), but we are analyzing all your suggestions and arguments, when the time comes to update the map boundaries, we will announce it.

@cfrag  about German Asset Pack: we will think about it, if we release it, it will be after phase 3. Cold War Germany map is our priority. You can create a topic and specify the models that you would like us to move to the pack.

We will try to keep you updated and publish reviews of the map every week on Friday and Saturday. Follow the forum and subscribe to the Youtube channel (at your request, we renamed it), sometimes short videos may appear there.

Also, at the end of this or next week, our joint FAQ post with ED will be published

Ich bin weggeflogen!

 

Edited March 20 by MAESTR0

[Geschirre]

Bitburg! Yes! Thank you! 

[Esac_mirmidon]

@MAESTR0

Any rough estimation about map size in GB?

 

[TheBiggerBass]

vor 2 Stunden schrieb MAESTR0:

Hallo, Kampfpiloten.
We are glad that you are interested in the map and liked the chosen territory. Thank you for your feedback and information, this is very valuable to us. We do not hide the territory of development, we immediately opened the list of airfields and showed the map so that you know what to expect. But some questions and wishes have appeared (you are so insatiable! ), so we will answer some of them.

Many asked about the date (I will not list them all) for now we can answer that we are planning the release of the map within a year.

@Geschirre, yes, there is Bibturg, it is included in the first phase and, moreover, you will see it this week.

There are a lot of wishes about adding phase 3 airfields and bases located outside the map boundaries. We are happy with this, it means that we have covered all the most important things in phase 1. It is too early to talk about expanding the map (spare your SSDs), but we are analyzing all your suggestions and arguments, when the time comes to update the map boundaries, we will announce it.

@cfrag  about German Asset Pack: we will think about it, if we release it, it will be after phase 3. Cold War Germany map is our priority. You can create a topic and specify the models that you would like us to move to the pack.

We will try to keep you updated and publish reviews of the map every week on Friday and Saturday. Follow the forum and subscribe to the Youtube channel (at your request, we renamed it), sometimes short videos may appear there.

Also, at the end of this or next week, our joint FAQ post with ED will be published

Ich bin weggeflogen!

 

That's so cool! Would like to do that in my home town (between Cologne and Düsseldorf) with a F-16 too. This will be fun 

Edited March 19 by TheBiggerBass

[Beirut]

On 3/18/2025 at 11:19 AM, MiGCap1 said:

I would suggest to wait for the announced official F-104 module from Aerges.

 

Ooooh, with those big beautiful German airfields, that's going to be some serious good fun.

[NoPro]

On 3/16/2025 at 10:58 AM, C525 said:

Without a doubt, the most anticipated map at the moment! Even if my "homebases" Neuburg and Lechfeld probably won't make it.

One question regarding the Shelters at the FRG airbases like Buchel. The Shelters look a bit odd, unless they're still WIP. Do you have reference pictures from that time frame? The ones we have since at least the last 30 years or longer don't have any edges, as the frames are roundish. Also it looks like the doors (4 per shelter) are missing, and I don't think they were open at the back.

Just something that I noticed, Spangdahlem for example looks perfect.

Cheers

@MAESTR0, any heads-up on this? 

[M-Flux]

Wow, that's a nice surprise, really looking forward to this map. I'm wondering what level of detail the historic city center of Lübeck or Lübeck-Travemünde beach will get. Will we be able to do practice some low-level flybys on an obstacle course around the seven church towers in its city center?

I also do remember that as a child it was quite a sight to watch a rescue helicopter land once every few years on our nearby soccer field. Will we be able to fly rescue missions between (soccer) fields and the local hospital in Lübeck?

Edit: Having obstacle courses around the many wind turbines we have in northern Germany would also be fun. But they were unfortunately only built in the recent one or two decades.

Edit2: Oh, or seeing the Herrenbrücke again would make my heart jump. And being able to fly through it with a jet. When it finished construction in 1964 it was the biggest draw bridge of Europe. It was replaced by a tunnel in the 2006. This bridge would create massive traffic jams for 30mins and it needed a long time to open and close. And has had countless repairs. One story of it is that its architect jumped from this bridge due to the many flaws it has had: https://rainer-wiedemann.de/die-herrenbruecke-europas-groesste-klappbruecke-von-1964-2005/

 

Edited March 20 by M-Flux

[flanker1]

vor 1 Stunde schrieb M-Flux:

Wow, that's a nice surprise, really looking forward to this map. I'm wondering what level of detail the historic city center of Lübeck or Lübeck-Travemünde beach will get. Will we be able to do practice some low-level flybys on an obstacle course around the seven church towers in its city center?

I also do remember that as a child it was quite a sight to watch a rescue helicopter land once every few years on our nearby soccer field. Will we be able to fly rescue missions between (soccer) fields and the local hospital in Lübeck?

Edit: Having obstacle courses around the many wind turbines we have in northern Germany would also be fun. But they were unfortunately only built in the recent one or two decades.

Edit2: Oh, or seeing the Herrenbrücke again would make my heart jump. And being able to fly through it with a jet. When it finished construction in 1964 it was the biggest draw bridge of Europe. It was replaced by a tunnel in the 2006. This bridge would create massive traffic jams for 30mins and it needed a long time to open and close. And has had countless repairs. One story of it is that its architect jumped from this bridge due to the many flaws it has had: https://rainer-wiedemann.de/die-herrenbruecke-europas-groesste-klappbruecke-von-1964-2005/

 

Stay cool, we don´t need a touristical sightseeing or google streetview map. . . we need cold war military focus on military sites and POI and especially airfields (details on hardware, equipment, layout, SAM and radar sites, ground installations with historical correctness). Dont get me wrong, I love details the more the better, but surely will make no helicopter missions in Lübeck when I can access a Germany cold war map. . .   

[RVT2403]

2 hours ago, M-Flux said:

unfortunately

 

I too think all buildings important for orientation should be present, but we do not need them down to the (last) rivets - impossible at that size of a map anyways. I rather have more landmarks in less detail (but a detail level to have them identifiable) than missing important POIs.

[draconus]

3 hours ago, M-Flux said:

Will we be able to do practice some low-level flybys on an obstacle course around the seven church towers in its city center?

The more pronounced buildings like churches are very likely to be recreated at least with the common model so I'd expect that to be entirely possible.

3 hours ago, M-Flux said:

Will we be able to fly rescue missions between (soccer) fields and the local hospital in Lübeck?

If the stadium and hospital with a heli pad are modeled (there are such models ex. on Syria, including the wind farms, btw) you can fly such missions - you have to make the mission yourself though.

Edited March 20 by draconus

[MiGCap1]

The Lübeck area of the Baltic was not unimportant … Soviet HINDs tested the NATO here sometimes by violating the border in a low level flight if I remember right.

[VFXBLENDER]

Does anyone know approximately how many GBs the map is going to be?

[ouky1991]

2 hours ago, VFXBLENDER said:

Does anyone know approximately how many GBs the map is going to be?

We can only guess at this point. Normandy, which is done by same team and the same tech is 43GB. This seems something over twice in the size, but since it's not sat textures it can't be easily deduced. I'd say no more than 100GB, either way it'll be smaller than comparable sat texture maps.

[OneEyeRoss]

On 3/19/2025 at 10:25 AM, MAESTR0 said:

Hallo, Kampfpiloten.
We are glad that you are interested in the map and liked the chosen territory. Thank you for your feedback and information, this is very valuable to us. We do not hide the territory of development, we immediately opened the list of airfields and showed the map so that you know what to expect. But some questions and wishes have appeared (you are so insatiable! ), so we will answer some of them.

Many asked about the date (I will not list them all) for now we can answer that we are planning the release of the map within a year.

@Geschirre, yes, there is Bibturg, it is included in the first phase and, moreover, you will see it this week.

There are a lot of wishes about adding phase 3 airfields and bases located outside the map boundaries. We are happy with this, it means that we have covered all the most important things in phase 1. It is too early to talk about expanding the map (spare your SSDs), but we are analyzing all your suggestions and arguments, when the time comes to update the map boundaries, we will announce it.

@cfrag  about German Asset Pack: we will think about it, if we release it, it will be after phase 3. Cold War Germany map is our priority. You can create a topic and specify the models that you would like us to move to the pack.

We will try to keep you updated and publish reviews of the map every week on Friday and Saturday. Follow the forum and subscribe to the Youtube channel (at your request, we renamed it), sometimes short videos may appear there.

Also, at the end of this or next week, our joint FAQ post with ED will be published

Ich bin weggeflogen!

 

Ausgezeichnet!!  Vielen danke!  

[Beirut]

5 hours ago, VFXBLENDER said:

Does anyone know approximately how many GBs the map is going to be?

 

If it's under 100GB that will be a nice surprise.

[MAXsenna]

Does anyone know approximately how many GBs the map is going to be?

Only the Devs. Assume 200GB with the first release, and add 50GB for every other season.

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[VFXBLENDER]

52 minutes ago, MAXsenna said:

Only the Devs. Assume 200GB with the first release, and add 50GB for every other season.

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200?! Holy crap, my computer is DEFINITELY gonna run out of space after I install it. Good lord! It's gonna be the largest map in GBs in all of DCS. My oh my.

57 minutes ago, Beirut said:

 

If it's under 100GB that will be a nice surprise.

That would be a blessing. I'll pray every day for to hope it is so.