English cockpit with metric units?

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

Hello,

As mentioned before in other threads and on YouTube, *language* options should be independent from *units* in my opinion.

With Avionics Language set to Native, Units set to Metric and cockpit in the special options set to English, gauges are calibrated in feet and knots instead of metres and kilometres per hour.
We've had comments from ED staff that there is a way to have metric units in the English cockpit (such as it currently is in for example Mi-24 and Mi-8), but if Native Avionics, Metric Units and English cockpit doesn't do the trick, I'm at a loss as to what does...

[Derbysieger]

The unit option in the gameplay options should not influence the units on cockpit instruments as well. This belongs in the special tab for each module, not in the general gameplay settings. 

I don't want to switch to metric every time I step into a russian cockpit and then back to imperial when I'm flying a western aircraft.

[MickV]

Wags was asked this exact, specific question re: English cockpit with metric units, and answered that it would be an option.

It would be nice to get clarification if Wags misunderstood the question, and there are no plans for English cockpit/metric units, or if it is something we can expect to be updated in the future.

[Drona]

ED, please have metric units with English cockpit implemented as soon as possible. Thanks.

[YoYo]

6 hours ago, Derbysieger said:

The unit option in the gameplay options should not influence the units on cockpit instruments as well. This belongs in the special tab for each module, not in the general gameplay settings. 

I don't want to switch to metric every time I step into a russian cockpit and then back to imperial when I'm flying a western aircraft.

Good idea. 

[Slice313]

So if I understand correctly, English plus metric is not possible right now?

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

7 minutes ago, Slice313 said:

So if I understand correctly, English plus metric is not possible right now?

It is not.

[gabuzomeu]

Hello, 

there is a number of discussions on the subject. 

As a wish, subject to others suggestion:

- cockpit language , avionics language and displayed unit shall be possible to select separately (ie any combination)

- these choices should be available at the aircraft options level, superseding if need be the choices made for the full game (units).

Obviously, some of it is already available.

And it should be implemented the same way for all the aircraft (eg the Voggen seems to behave differently than the Mig)

Does not seem to be so complex to modifiy the aircarft options menu this way, but, one never knows

[Mainstay]

Agreed

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

I think it's best to keep the default options the way they are for other Russian ED modules, and optionally add a convenience option to have imperial units for those who so desire (I personally find that more immersion breaking than an English cockpit but that's just me).

[draconus]

Until the update I had game units set to imperial but when flying soviet birds (except 29G) I still had them in native units and all was fine.

Now I have to change between units depending on which aircraft I fly?

Edited 7 hours ago by draconus

[Raven (Elysian Angel)]

2 hours ago, draconus said:

Now I have to change between units depending on which aircraft I fly?

So it seems, until ED gets both feet on the ground again.

[Volator]

19 hours ago, Raven (Elysian Angel) said:

Hello,

As mentioned before in other threads and on YouTube, *language* options should be independent from *units* in my opinion.

With Avionics Language set to Native, Units set to Metric and cockpit in the special options set to English, gauges are calibrated in feet and knots instead of metres and kilometres per hour.
We've had comments from ED staff that there is a way to have metric units in the English cockpit (such as it currently is in for example Mi-24 and Mi-8), but if Native Avionics, Metric Units and English cockpit doesn't do the trick, I'm at a loss as to what does...

With avionics language to "English", units to "Metric" and the English medium cockpit textures I am getting this:




Speedometer and altimeter are in km/h and meters, HSI shows km (even though the label wrongly says "miles")... but the radar altimeter is still in feet 

[SlipHavoc]

I was just going to post about this, and I see people have beaten me to it!  This is also a problem in the L-39.  I would really like to have English cockpit labels, and English speech, but native metric instruments, HUD numbers, etc.  In the L-39, the manual is all in metric units, as is most information you can find about it online, so it's very convenient to have the cockpit in metric units so I don't have to convert back and forth to figure out takeoff and landing speeds, etc.  The MiG-29 manual unfortunately all seems to be in English units, even though almost no one flew the MiG-29 in real life with English units.

If you set the Avionics Language to English, and the Units to Metric, and the Special tab options to English cockpit, you get a really weird mish-mash of stuff: one airspeed indicator in kph, the other in kts, the altimeter in meters and what looks like mmHg, but the radar altimeter is in feet, and the HSI and fuel gauge show miles.  IMO it really needs to be all one or the other, and it would be nice if it were a simple switch.

Here's my wishlist: One setting to control default units for map and infobar (toggleable in game in the F10 map with the existing button at the top).  One setting to control speech language (e.g. speech and text from ATC, AWACS, crew chief, flight engineer, etc.)  And then in the Special tab, for each plane, one setting for cockpit labels and one setting for units.  The units setting should also control what instruments are shown (the metric or English airspeed indicator for instance, which are physically different in the cockpit, not just a different label).

[Romeo]

Sorry for posting in this thread, but I didn’t want to create multiple topics. My question is the following: the Mach number and true airspeed Vист indicator is blocked by the control stick (РУС). Would it be possible to add these values to the virtual HUD with the controls overlay (Ctrl+Enter)? After all, this is a very important instrument for a jet fighter, and I wouldn’t want to fly without the stick being visible in the cockpit.