Any news on producing 1.2?

[Kevlon]

yes I hope so. can't say for sure until beta-testing is started.

 

 

 

nope, only new planes will get AFM.

AFM is not just a checkmark near plane name. ED can not develop one AFM for all planes and make it differ by table numbers - this would be wrong way. IL-2 went this way and we all see what's they got.

ED have to spend much time on every single plane individually. And they can not release an add-on with F-15 AFM only, because of commercial reasons - most customers will never buy it, they'll say "no new planes here - it's a patch not add-on". we all saw this before.

But ED is going to make every new plane with AFM standards, simply because developing of new plane with CFM (common FM) is a stepback for ED.

 

May be later, in next projects ED will re-release old planes with new FM, I very hope so...

 

btw: GG, you read betas forum; AFAIK that question was explained before.

 

aw.. i would love AFM for the flankers.. but 1.2 sounds sweet :D

 

 

What new planes are we to expect?

[GGTharos]

The Ka-50, in 1.2 ;)

 

 

Dmut: Yes, I know, that was the point of my question. Just because one aircraft's getting something, doesn't mean the rest will.

[33rd_bratpfanne.]

nope, only new planes will get AFM.

 

Very Very Very sad news :icon_cry: :icon_cry: :icon_cry:

 

My AFM for F 15 is LOST, ITS LOOOST, MY PRRRECIOOOUUUUS

 

:Flush:

 

I m frustrated

 

Brati

[bflagg]

Dammit...

ED pres said a while ago that all aircraft will have AFM.. (I don't remember the site) - found it (http://world.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ru_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ogl.ru%2fpc%2f7779%2fmain%2f#lib) but it doesn't work anymore.

 

now it appears ED changed their mind.

 

ED....I bought flaming cliffs and never thought it was a patch and was half-expecting

the AFM for the other aircraft in the future...

 

now it's not going to happen....

 

very sad news for us Eagle fans...

[Olgerd]

Dammit...

ED pres said a while ago that all aircraft will have AFM.. (I don't remember the site) - found it (http://world.altavista.com/babelfish/trurl_pagecontent?lp=ru_en&trurl=http%3a%2f%2fwww.ogl.ru%2fpc%2f7779%2fmain%2f#lib) but it doesn't work anymore.

 

now it appears ED changed their mind.

 

ED....I bought flaming cliffs and never thought it was a patch and was half-expecting

the AFM for the other aircraft in the future...

 

now it's not going to happen....

 

very sad news for us Eagle fans...

 

Shhhh... Calm down please. Just calm down. :D

Anybody promised this "right now just on demand". Yes we had such plans and still have it. But it is long issue.

Really long.

[SUBS17]

No its good news actually since after 1.2 the lockon series ends and the next generation flight sim goes into development. So all those flyables might eventually get AFM as well as clickable pit and F4 level avionics.

[Olgerd]

No its good news actually since after 1.2 the lockon series ends and the next generation flight sim goes into development. So all those flyables might eventually get AFM as well as clickable pit and F4 level avionics.

 

Yep. ;)

[Ice]

The Way I see it LO-MAC is just one step in a long long staircase that started with flanker 1.0. Flaming Cliffs is the next and so-on.

 

My message here to everyone is if we support Eagle Dynamics. Sooner or later all of our wishes will come true. That means AFM's for all aircraft. In the end ED will have a repertoire of aircraft not unlike IL2 does today. Obviously each aircraft in a modern day jet sim is much more complicated and the community is alot smaller. But it is obvious to me that this is the ultimate goal. So cheer up I know that one day my squadron will get our carrier based F18. Ground Pounders will get there beloved F15E. The Euros will get their mirages. So on and So on. Until then. Apreciate what you have. There is no time like the present.

[Revvin]

Clickable cockpits are overrated, I'd rather see time spent on making a dynamic campaign. I use a full HOTAS and nothing ruins the immersion more than leaning forward to grab the mouse and click on a graphical representation of a cockpit button.

[Ogami Musashi]

Hello,

 

AFM require a lot of informations on a lot of system in the plane.

The more complex the plane, the longer and the harder the AFM to make.

 

So SU-27, F-15 and mig-29 AFM would require 1 year each to be completed.

 

Thus, you see that making it for ALL planes would be an impossible work for a one shot release.

 

 

While i'll deeply love SU-27 (SU-27P rocks) AFM, i have to admit that i prefer to see ED doing new planes, this is maybe more interesting.

 

As talking about future implements, the new ED team is full of great people!

Avionics are going to be better and better now thanks to new avionics programmers (one has a name that starts with Olg..)

 

See you

[Witchking]

Clickable cockpits are overrated, I'd rather see time spent on making a dynamic campaign. I use a full HOTAS and nothing ruins the immersion more than leaning forward to grab the mouse and click on a graphical representation of a cockpit button.

 

thaaaaank you!! :icon_roll I totally agree !

[Cobra360]

Will all the current flyables be carried over to the ''next project''? Or will one or two of the unpopular fighters be dropped in favour of more advanced variants of the type.

 

The reason I ask is that in the recent poll held here, the Mig-29A did not do so well. compared to the MiG-29S which was one of the most popular for obvious reasons.

[VMFA-Blaze]

My message here to everyone is if we support Eagle Dynamics. Sooner or later all of our wishes will come true.

 

Ok so since you mentioned it, and since Olgred seems to be here I have a question......

 

And yes I know that lose lips sink ships but my question is this (and I'm quite sure that a lot of the fanbois have this question as well ) just how is the support for this addon going????

 

I'm not asking for any figures or anything but is it positive or negative ?????

 

 

~S~

 

Blaze

[Cobra360]

I think it's positive in Russia at least. I think it was Olgred who said that the Ka-50 was famous in Russia as it is featured in a popular TV show there. So ED are looking after their home market and cashing in at the same time.

 

Nothing wrong in that? I say give ED all the money they want and we'll get what we want. Everybody wins.

[Olgerd]

Ok so since you mentioned it, and since Olgred seems to be here I have a question......

 

And yes I know that lose lips sink ships but my question is this (and I'm quite sure that a lot of the fanbois have this question as well ) just how is the support for this addon going????

 

I'm not asking for any figures or anything but is it positive or negative ?????

 

 

~S~

 

Blaze

 

If you mean information support, I will say yes. We have very strong support regarding to Ka-50. ;)

I am sorry guys. I am not autorized to say anything about our profits.

[Hogarth]

Hands and feet.

 

Clickable cockpits are overrated, I'd rather see time spent on making a dynamic campaign. I use a full HOTAS and nothing ruins the immersion more than leaning forward to grab the mouse and click on a graphical representation of a cockpit button.

 

I agree with that. But I've often wounder why they don't finish the cockpits with arms that move with the stick and throttel or push buttons, flip switches and so on. Feet that move with the rudders. This may put a new twist on a clickable cockpit or when you hit a key comand.

 

Oh ya and don't forget making those hand jesters like flying the bird. Just kidding!

[Megile]

Clickable cockpits are overrated, I'd rather see time spent on making a dynamic campaign. I use a full HOTAS and nothing ruins the immersion more than leaning forward to grab the mouse and click on a graphical representation of a cockpit button.

 

Totally 100% agree!

I'd take, having to hit a key on the keyboard over the mouse any day. Its a waste of developers time IMO

[GGTharos]

No, clickable pits aren't overrated; especially in view of complex avionics modelling.

[leafer]

I agree with that. But I've often wounder why they don't finish the cockpits with arms that move with the stick and throttel or push buttons, flip switches and so on. Feet that move with the rudders. This may put a new twist on a clickable cockpit or when you hit a key comand.

 

 

Brother Hogarth,

 

I have been asking for moving arms around cockpit since they're still working on LOMAC! It would be the coolest thing, at least for us :D, to push a button on the keyboard and a virtual hand moves to perform proper task in the time it'd take a pilot to do so in real pit. You won't need clickable pit; just push a button and the hand(s) do the rest. Clickable pit is annoying as hell as pushing tiny pixels with a mouse ain't my idea of fun; especially in battle.

 

But I was told it would be a resource hog so, I guess we're getting clicking pit. Which imo, isn't bad considering it would bullter proof ED's sim from all those elitist . :D lol

[GGTharos]

You don't 'push little pixels' in battle, and you don't have enough buttons to push all you need via keyboard in a high fidelity simulated cockpit.

 

If you're pushing buttons on screen during combat, you did something wrong, liek not setting up your HOTAS or failing to program your release modes for AG weapons and so on and so on.

[Olgerd]

Brother Hogarth,

 

I have been asking for moving arms around cockpit since they're still working on LOMAC! It would be the coolest thing, at least for us :D, to push a button on the keyboard and a virtual hand moves to perform proper task in the time it'd take a pilot to do so in real pit. You won't need clickable pit; just push a button and the hand(s) do the rest. Clickable pit is annoying as hell as pushing tiny pixels with a mouse ain't my idea of fun; especially in battle.

 

But I was told it would be a resource hog so, I guess we're getting clicking pit. Which imo, isn't bad considering it would bullter proof ED's sim from all those elitist . :D lol

 

Ok. How many key sequences you are ready to keep in your memory for succefull employment of a plane? 20? 30? 40?

[Dmut]

we, keyboarders, always have keymap card between keyboard and monitor :D

[33rd_bratpfanne.]

I would really like clickable cockpit and go through all the startup procedures with a Checklist, as long as there is the Option to turn it off for quick online flying. In adition, i would like to further be able to use all the possibilities of my HOTAS in Flight. It would really be bad to loose this capability. I could then turn back to my old MS Sidewinder Precision pro.

 

Greetings

 

Brati

[Cobra360]

Like Falocn 4 then. You can choose the cold start or not that takes between 5 and 8 minutes. The reason it takes so long is that you have to wait for the INS to allign itself. I love that part. And you can still use all your keyboard commands and HOTAS controls.

 

Every button around the MFDs in Falcon all have their own keyboard shortcut aswell. Each of the two MFDs has 20 buttons each. It's maddness but I love it. Can't wait for the day ED introduce this in future products.

[airea]

So, with all the fantastic stuff in the old flyables, and newly introduced Ka-50, when will we exactly be able to play 1.2? That is the question, to play or no not to play...