Weta43 Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 (edited) So you have a mental image of E.D. riding a river of cash flowing from the huge world-wide flight-simulator sales bubble that's going on at the moment do you ? :) Perhaps you think perhaps Microsoft got out of flight sims because they'd just made so much money from them that they didn't need to make any more ? Or perhaps the development costs of realistic military flight simulators just mean there are easier ways to turn a profit in the gaming world, so that's where Microsoft have gone, and the prices E.D. charge reflect the cost of development & the expected sales volumes that are associated with this type of product. Edited August 21, 2012 by Weta43 Cheers.
Bucic Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 +1. The thing is such a pig it's not always very enjoyable to fly. This is the very reason why it's a joy to fly. Overloaded Su-25T, anyone? :) +1 from me. I'd definitely buy it. F-5E simpit cockpit dimensions and flight controls Kill the Bloom - shader glow mod Poor audio Doppler effect in DCS [bug] Trees - huge performance hit especially up close
159th_Viper Posted August 21, 2012 Posted August 21, 2012 Some of the prices ED gives for their product is simply unfair, I don't care how much the fanboys drone on and on about workload and complexity. 50 dollars is way too much for a single plane that doesn't even fit into the existing world..... And to think that I have to pay $70 for COD: Black Ops II.......:music_whistling: :megalol: Where do you get the $50 figure from? Novice or Veteran looking for an alternative MP career? Click me to commence your Journey of Pillage and Plunder! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] '....And when I get to Heaven, to St Peter I will tell.... One more Soldier reporting Sir, I've served my time in Hell......'
marcos Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 And to think that I have to pay $70 for COD: Black Ops II.......:music_whistling: :megalol: Do not mention the term 'COD'. MW3 was an absolute farce online. Didn't some of the early Su-25TMs have a GSh-6-30? That I'd like to fly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gryazev-Shipunov_GSh-6-30
Exorcet Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 I wish that most devs gave you $50 worth when you bought their software (let alone $40, which is how much ED charges). DCS is an unbelievable bargain. Can't say that the Su-25 is my thing though. I wouldn't even have time to fly it after getting neck deep in all the fighters coming out, and the Mustang, and possibly the Ka-50 which I've recently considered buying since I haven't done much which choppers before. Awaiting: DCS F-15C Win 10 i5-9600KF 4.6 GHz 64 GB RAM RTX2080Ti 11GB -- Win 7 64 i5-6600K 3.6 GHz 32 GB RAM GTX970 4GB -- A-10C, F-5E, Su-27, F-15C, F-14B, F-16C missions in User Files
Wolfie Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 (edited) So you have a mental image of E.D. riding a river of cash flowing from the huge world-wide flight-simulator sales bubble that's going on at the moment do you ? :) Perhaps you think perhaps Microsoft got out of flight sims because they'd just made so much money from them that they didn't need to make any more ? Lol, and this is why I have said many times that E.D. needs to go the ARMA route to survive. I know you guys want to concentrate on aircraft, and you have a few 3rd parties lined up to help you. It looks like your going to have about 10 new planes are so in the next few years. Now, in order to get the FPS guys ( the majority of computer gamers and the majority in inflowing money ) in with you, you or some third parties should put in some infantry, vehicle, and increased scenery modules to boot. That will be sure to really boost your sales and make everyone happy, especially since it looks like Bohemia is trying to increase its flight sim realism and compete with you. Some people say the graphics aren't good enough for FPS, but one of the BEST FPS sims EVER was the UT1 ( yes, ONE!) mod Infiltration. Twelve years later or so, its still one of the best. While graphics are great, they aren't everything. Immersion is. And I know you say that will also increase the load on computers, but modern day computers are pretty powerful and gamers tend to spend a lot on them, making them virtual Ferrari's. GPU's are especially powerful now, and you need to code to push more load on to those GPU's, since they seem to be the new upcoming number crunching powerhouses, leaving the CPU's just guiding traffic. Edited August 23, 2012 by Wolfie "Isn't this fun!?" - Inglorious Bastards "I rode a tank, held a general's rank / When the Blitzkrieg raged, and the bodies stank!" - Stones.
WildBillKelsoe Posted August 23, 2012 Posted August 23, 2012 I'd buy any DCS fidelity product on par with A-10. Su-25 Frogfoot is my lucky number Slevin!!! AWAITING ED NEW DAMAGE MODEL IMPLEMENTATION FOR WW2 BIRDS Fat T is above, thin T is below. Long T is faster, Short T is slower. Open triangle is AWACS, closed triangle is your own sensors. Double dash is friendly, Single dash is enemy. Circle is friendly. Strobe is jammer. Strobe to dash is under 35 km. HDD is 7 times range key. Radar to 160 km, IRST to 10 km. Stay low, but never slow.
Weta43 Posted August 24, 2012 Posted August 24, 2012 Not until they make DCS: PA-28. The Su-25A is one of the few planes in the sim to have actually seen serious combat... By the end of the war, nearly 50 Su-25s were deployed at Afghan airbases, carrying out a total of 60,000 sorties. Between the first deployment in 1981 and the end of the war in 1989, 21 aircraft were lost in combat operations. That's one loss per 2800 sorties, and that's with the Taliban equiped with stingers in the later part of the conflict. Cheers.
Milene Posted August 25, 2012 Posted August 25, 2012 If ed decides not to make a seperate dcs-su25t module can we at least expect a better modeled cockpit? Flanker, Flanker 2.0, Flanker 2.5, Lockon, FC1, FC2,FC3, BS1, BS2, A10C, CA and World [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]
Terrorvogel Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 Would buy Su-25T with clickable Cockpit and quality like DCS:A-10 instantly if released. It only has to be built... Regards Terrorvogel ASROCK X79 Extreme11 (WC), i7-4930K (WC), 32GB G.Skill TridentX, Vertex 3 120GB, GTX 980ti, 3x 39,5" Philips 4K, TrackIR 5, TM Warthog with PeterP´s FFB2 Mod, 2xSaitek Throttle, 2x Thrustmaster Cougar MFD Bezel, Simped Vario Pedals modded with toe brakes, Opencockpit Cards, 4x Soundcard, 2x Buttkicker Gamer 2, 4x GTX 950 with tons of touchscreens...
marcos Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 I'd buy DCS A-25T, in which you get an aircraft with the weapons load-out, SEAD, acceleration and climb capabilities of the Su-25T but with the A-10's cannon, avionics and low-speed lift. That would be an awesome game. It might have no basis whatsoever in reality but so what.
leafer Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 Basically, I'll just buy any goddamn thing ED puts out the door. :) From ED, yes, and may the next goddamn thing be Su27. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
Darkwolf Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 Anything that has DCS quality will land on my system, whatever my financial mess is and whatever i like or not this aircraft. It's like Pokemon, i'm going to catch them all. :) [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] PC simulator news site. Also....Join the largest DCS community on Facebook :pilotfly:
tintifaxl Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 Na, no Russian hardware for me, except a Flanker or a Hind. Better both! 1 Windows 10 64bit, Intel i9-9900@5Ghz, 32 Gig RAM, MSI RTX 3080 TI, 2 TB SSD, 43" 2160p@1440p monitor.
GGTharos Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 It isn't. The 'next goddamn thing' is a western fast-mover, insofar as we know. From ED, yes, and may the next goddamn thing be Su27. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
[DBS]TH0R Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 I'd probably get it. Since A-10C was my first venture into modern sims I was somethat turned off by the lack of fidelity (no clickable cockpit, no inherent 6 DOF, simplified radio, etc...). But, I'd rather see some other types released first - e.g. carrier ops and F-18. P8Z68 | 2500k @ 4.5 | GTX 1080Ti | 2x8 GB @ 1600 | TM Hog (extended 7cm) & MFG Crosswind (S/N 007) | TIR v5 WWII bomber formations | DCS P-51D: [TEST] TO distance / gross weight / temperature
leafer Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 It isn't. The 'next goddamn thing' is a western fast-mover, insofar as we know. No, modgamdit, I want a Su27. You know, the plane that catapulted ED from out of no where and set the path to dominate the simmulanian world. ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
GGTharos Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 No, modgamdit, I want a Su27. That's nice. I want an F-15C :D You know, the plane that catapulted ED from out of no where and set the path to dominate the simmulanian world. Yes, and now ED has created a huge simulation platform, and they have a plan for moving forward ... maybe at some point a Su-27 will happen, but when - who knows? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Reminder: SAM = Speed Bump :D I used to play flight sims like you, but then I took a slammer to the knee - Yoda
leafer Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 Sooner than later I hope. :D ED have been taking my money since 1995. :P
Napa Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 Would buy Su-25T with clickable Cockpit and quality like DCS:A-10 instantly if released. It only has to be built... Regards Terrorvogel +1 :thumbup: Count me in too DCS T-Frog!!! :joystick: 1 Intel i7 12700k / Corsair H150i Elite Capellix / Asus TUF Z690 Wifi D4 / Corsair Dominator 32GB 3200Mhz / Corsair HW1000W / 1x Samsung SSD 970 Evo Plus 500Gb + 1 Corsair MP600 1TB / ASUS ROG Strix RTX 3080 OC V2 / Fractal Design Meshify 2 / HOTAS Warthog / TFRP Rudder / TrackIR 5 / Dell U2515h 25" Monitor 1440p
SmokeyTheLung Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 who knows? Matt Wagner and his evil henchmen! :P DCS: "Insert any modern aircraft" will be a buy for me. System specifications: Computer, joystick, DCS world, Beer
EtherealN Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 DCS: "Insert any modern aircraft" will be a buy for me. Oki. :) :D [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Daniel "EtherealN" Agorander | Даниэль "эфирныйн" Агорандер Intel i7 2600K @ 4.4GHz, ASUS Sabertooth P67, 8GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600MHz, ASUS GTX 560Ti DirectCU II 1GB, Samsung 830series 512GB SSD, Corsair AX850w, two BENQ screens and TM HOTAS Warthog DCS: A-10C Warthog FAQ | DCS: P-51D FAQ | Remember to read the Forum Rules | | | Life of a Game Tester
SmokeyTheLung Posted October 23, 2012 Posted October 23, 2012 Who do I pay? :D System specifications: Computer, joystick, DCS world, Beer
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