DCS World 2.0 and New Maps Discussion Thread

[Exorcet]

Very exciting news. It wouldn't surprise me if we got more than just EDGE. I had always wondered what ED would plan to do next after the graphics engine, but I didn't expect to possibly see it come out as the same time. Also with EDGE released, I can spec out a new machine.

[upupandaway]

Hopefully there will be an official announcement soon to get this under control.

 

Hehe...

[Winfield_Gold]

When VEAO said the hawk needed 1.2.8 to be released prior to release of the hawk, before the legal issues were later stated to be the main hold up. Many times since then, it was said that the rendering engine has nothing to do with planes (boats, cars, helo's etc).

 

5 months on and apparently it does play a role. Mig guys have stated that EDGE needs to be released (public) prior to the Mig (public). Does this mean that if EDGE is delayed, the mig will be as will?

 

Sabre can be released with out EDGE as was the previous plan, curious why the mig guys need EDGE to make their plane work considering it was previously stated the rendering engine has nothing to do with aircraft.

 

Not phased when it's released as it will be a day 1 buy as with the HAWK and any other aircraft. Curious why moderators and ED testers say one thing yet the developer says another thing entirely different. ED Testers would all no doubt have copies of the Mig, Hawk, Sabre etc etc, has anyone tried it with 1.2.8? Curious to know why it won't work in 1.2.8

[NineLine]

1.2.8 is in public release, its not in our test environment anymore. Our goals would be 1.2.9 and beyond.

 

When VEAO said the hawk needed 1.2.8 to be released prior to release of the hawk, before the legal issues were later stated to be the main hold up. Many times since then, it was said that the rendering engine has nothing to do with planes (boats, cars, helo's etc).

 

5 months on and apparently it does play a role. Mig guys have stated that EDGE needs to be released (public) prior to the Mig (public). Does this mean that if EDGE is delayed, the mig will be as will?

 

Sabre can be released with out EDGE as was the previous plan, curious why the mig guys need EDGE to make their plane work considering it was previously stated the rendering engine has nothing to do with aircraft.

 

Not phased when it's released as it will be a day 1 buy as with the HAWK and any other aircraft. Curious why moderators and ED testers say one thing yet the developer says another thing entirely different. ED Testers would all no doubt have copies of the Mig, Hawk, Sabre etc etc, has anyone tried it with 1.2.8? Curious to know why it won't work in 1.2.8

[Ogami Musashi]

It has been officially stated on the facebook page that :

 

-DCS 2.0 will be free

-Mig-21 will be released at the same time

[Winfield_Gold]

1.2.8 is in public release, its not in our test environment anymore. Our goals would be 1.2.9 and beyond.

 

indeed, as would be my goals if I was a software developer. Still does not answer the question as to why it has been previously stated that the rendering engine has nothing to do with planes yet mig boys released a statement saying that it needs EDGE to be released before the mig can be released.

 

If that is the case, why does the sabre work with out edge and the mig doesn't? Previous statements have said that aircraft have nil to do with the rendering engine. Why does it seem that it actually does now?

[Stratos]

So 2.0.0 will have Edge and the Mig-21 included? That means good and bad news.

 

- Good news: EDGE will be release this year (read 2014) and I hope Nevada with it.

 

- Bad news: Mig-21 release is pushed to a later release than expected.

 

I understood everything correctly? Hope SiThSpAwN can check and quote my post so I can get a clarification, as he got my respect managing the DCS:WW2 "incident"

Edited July 18, 2014 by Stratos

[Winfield_Gold]

It has been officially stated on the facebook page that :

 

-DCS 2.0 will be free

-Mig-21 will be released at the same time

 

 

So if EDGE is delayed, Mig will be delayed?

[NeilWillis]

The modules being dependent on the graphics engine is hardly relevant. However, there may be necessary changes to the code to accommodate the new graphics engine that would mean that any modules need to have their code changed to comply with the new specifications.

 

That would apply regardless of whether or not the module happened to exploit the new graphics capabilities.

 

When development started on the aforesaid modules, they were aiming at v1.2.something. Then, ED announced the updated specs for the integration, so therefore, aforesaid modules would need more work to make them compliant.

 

How do module makers a) predict what the ED specs will be 12 months hence? b) Use that miraculous insight to predict exactly when they will be releasing their modules?

 

For goodness sake guys, there is NO conspiracy. There is NO definite release date until the release date has been fixed by public announcement. There is NO plot by ED to make sure they get their modules to the marketplace before the competition - they are after all, dependent on each other to move the whole simulation forwards.

 

Frankly, the debate has been going round in circles for months. If you have something new to say that isn't speculation, or just a whine about broken promises, then let's all hear it. If all you have to say is a wild guess about what will happen, and when, then keep it to yourself. If you want to moan, then just bang your head against a wall, and scream all you like. Just quit doing it here, cuz you are adding nothing to the debate, just making everyone have to wade through acres of pointless postings in the vain hope of learning something new, and relevant.

 

I'm not trying to criticise anyone, nor am I asking you to add more to this fruitless debate, I just want to make it possible to read what matters, and not all this worthless white noise that everyone stopped caring about months ago.

 

Enough is enough, don't you think?

[Eldur]

A much more legitimate major increase in versioning than the utter nonsense Google and Mozilla do with their browsers almost every other week which mostly should just be 0.0.1 increases instead of racing for ver. 100.x.x.

 

So if EDGE is delayed, Mig will be delayed?

 

And ATi/AMD support :D

[NineLine]

indeed, as would be my goals if I was a software developer. Still does not answer the question as to why it has been previously stated that the rendering engine has nothing to do with planes yet mig boys released a statement saying that it needs EDGE to be released before the mig can be released.

 

If that is the case, why does the sabre work with out edge and the mig doesn't? Previous statements have said that aircraft have nil to do with the rendering engine. Why does it seem that it actually does now?

 

As far as I understand it, it has nothing to do with the rendering engine and its just as simple as timing, as in the MiG wasnt able to be made ready in time for 1.2.8 or 1.2.9 so it needs to wait till 2.0.0.

[Winfield_Gold]

As far as I understand it, it has nothing to do with the rendering engine and its just as simple as timing, as in the MiG wasnt able to be made ready in time for 1.2.8 or 1.2.9 so it needs to wait till 2.0.0.

 

Thank you. This is the answer I was seeking

[Ogami Musashi]

So if EDGE is delayed, Mig will be delayed?

 

it reads

 

"The guys at Leatherneck have been doing a great job and this week we integrated the AI MiG-21bis into DCS World 2, version 2.0.0 (there will be no 1.3.0 due to the extensive DCS World changes that are coming). Later in 2014, after version 1.2.9, both will be released. The model looks stunning as we think you will agree!"

 

And later in the comments:

 

"DCS World 2 will be freeware"

 

Here you have

[NRG-Vampire]

So if EDGE is delayed, Mig will be delayed?

 

unfortunately yes, Cobra stated earlier they made the mig-21 for the edge version

they cant go back to 1.2.9 to make the module compatible - what ED do to able to bring f-86 sabre in time because edge is not arriving in time :(

 

So 2.0.0 will have Edge and the Mig-21 included?

 

i think mig-21 will not icluded in 2.0.0, only the ai and the 3d model will

mig-21 player module will be available/downloadable as a seperate install module (just like other modules) after edge has been released, i guess

Edited July 18, 2014 by NRG-Vampire

[cichlidfan]

i think mig-21 will not icluded in 2.0.0, only the ai and the 3d model will

mig-21 modul will be available/downloadable as a seperate install module (just like other modules) after edge has been released, i guess

 

That is rather obvious since it is a paid module. :doh:

[NRG-Vampire]

That is rather obvious since it is a paid module. :doh:

old forum members do know this well, new members dont

 

:D that was the question, a wrong question :doh:

 

So 2.0.0 will have Edge and the Mig-21 included?

[Stratos]

:D that was the question, a wrong question :doh:

 

Why?

[NRG-Vampire]

Why?

 

not for you Stratos, i know you are an old member :) sure, your join date shows that too

just for the really new members who will maybe think dcsw2 and mig-21 will be only one program: with free su-25t, tf-51d and mig-21bis

 

while we oldies all know mig-21 is a pay module

[Jona33]

Re-charging for the modules would be shooting themselves in the foot, especially with a community noted for getting worked up over small stuff, so a big thing like that...Well you can guess what would happen.

 

Stop panicking everyone, it's literally just a version number.

Edited July 18, 2014 by Jona33
Clarification

[Pizzicato]

Charging for the modules would be shooting themselves in the foot

 

I assume you mean "charging for engine updates". Charging for modules is the core of ED's business model.

[kontiuka]

I assume you mean "charging for engine updates". Charging for modules is the core of ED's business model.

I think he meant charging for the already free su-25t and tf-51d.

[Flagrum]

I think he meant charging for the already free su-25t and tf-51d.

And I believe he meant charging for the 2.0.0 version of the modules.

[kontiuka]

And I believe he meant charging for the 2.0.0 version of the modules.

Ya, that aint gonna happen. Of course, what do I know?

[Jona33]

I assume you mean "charging for engine updates". Charging for modules is the core of ED's business model.

 

Sorry I should have clarified, re-charging for the modules to use them in 2.0.0 is what I meant.

[SkateZilla]

Sorry I should have clarified, re-charging for the modules to use them in 2.0.0 is what I meant.

 

not going to happen AFAIK.

 

the version number change to 2.x.x is simply because of the vast changes, new GFX Engine etc.