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It's a sad day when moderators get bossed around by regular users. Reminds me of Tron.

 

Also, Viper, you are a clown :P

 

No amount of avatar changing is going to affect that.

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Also, Viper, you are a clown :P

 

That's what they all say :megalol:

 

OK - back to FC3: Spread the word, Gents: There's a lack of target drones that needs addressing :D

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That's what they all say :megalol:

 

OK - back to FC3: Spread the word, Gents: There's a lack of target drones that needs addressing :D

 

I'll make posters to put up on my college's walls. Half the people here are aviation students anyways.

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I need to find a more frightening variant of my avatar. :(

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Well, Erichvon, there's a couple things:

 

1) If you're not using DCS World, then the reason why you're having issues finding servers is quite possibly that you're not using DCS World, which is what everyone (except FC2) is using for their most up-to-date. So the disappearance of open servers for BS2 might very well be caused specifically by you not using World.

 

2) You do not "add" World modules to your existing, pre-world installs. All you do is the following:

 

A) Download and install DCS World.

B) Download and install Modules for the products you have.

 

In B, these modules end up in DCS World, and gives you access to that aircraft in there. As mentioned, there are modules for BS2, A-10C, P-51D, CA and (soon™) FC3. Your old stand-alone installs are not modules; they are separate installs whereas what World does is bring everything into the same program on your computer.

 

The location on your hard drive of the previous standalones is irrelevant to World, mixing and matching will destroy both. The full procedure is therefore as indicated above.

 

To perhaps put it in a more explicit fasion: DCS World does not go into your pre-existing standalones. DCS World replaces them. All of them. With one install. (Well, all of them that there are modules for, as listed above.)

 

Objective is therefore that instead of having:

 

1x BS1

1x FC2

1x BS2

1x A-10C

(etc, with lots of file commonality between them wasting your hard drive space)

 

you will have

 

1x DCS World

...and any aircraft you have purchased (such as BS2 etcetera) will be flown from within there through installing the relevant module.

 

Thanks for the info.

 

I have the 1st P-51D beta and thusly is how I initially got DCS World. I also have the World's 1st Warthog Beta. Warthog 1st beta was not quite right compared to my DCS: Warthog 1.1.1.1 , so I did not use it much. The P-51D I used the 1st beta and flew it pretty well; it was hot for awhile but nobody was dogfighting, rare. I see the Tuskagee guys updated and they fly dogfighting sorties, now, from what I have read to forums.

 

as to (1): I realize this and why I just downloaded the DCS World 1.2.0 English 3 .bin modules and their .exe for it. But it is not installed, yet.

 

I do not want to destroy my current setup of DCS: Warthog 2011 final release and updates to 1.1.1.1 ; or my current Black Shark setup of BS1 for FC2 and BS2 for DCS before DCS World came along.

 

I do want to update my 2 pre-purchases of P-51D and Warthog and get the Update version for World for the Black Shark. Also want to buy FC3 for World and Combined Arms.

 

I have all the installation packages, each, and their updated patches, saved in their own folders in "My Documents" so they are not lost or will be.

 

My current installations of DCS: Warthog and Black Shark is what I do not want to lose.

 

I am not sure of the process of how to load all this mess and do not wish to lose what I have that does work currently. 1st betas in World do not work in multiplayer, anyway, no loss there.

 

MY DCS World setup currently is in my 64-bit "Program Files" (which I realize needs a separate directory, not Program Files).

 

My current DCS World is:

 

C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\Bazar\ (then the individual modules in their own folder titles of A-10C; Ka-50; P-51; World, etc.

 

I do not have Black Shark for World, yet.

 

If I leave my current Black Shark Update series up, will this interfere with Black Shark in DCS World? :

 

C:\GAMES\Ka-50 Black Shark\(then BS1 and BS2 in their respective folders) This works just fine.

 

My DCS Warthog:

 

C:\GAMES\DCS A-10C\(then all its folders below it)

This also works just fine.

 

Since I know the year 2011 version of DCS Warthog works and within the year 2012 World my A-10C beta works relatively well, I think I can assume (hate that word) I can leave my DCS Warthog setup as is and probably leave my BS1 and BS2 setup as is and just add to the World setup as necessary C:\Program Files\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\Bazar\etc .

 

I realize I am a bit too thick on this and don't want to screw up the new installations in World.

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My current installations of DCS: Warthog and Black Shark is what I do not want to lose.

 

You can install the current DCS:World 1.2 without touching your other installs. Since you have the older version of World installed you may want to install 1.2 to a new directory (such as c:\dcsworld). After installing World, install the A-10c and BS2 Upgrade modules. Since you already have BS1 installed the BS2 upgrade module should install without any problems. I am currently running World 1.2 and my A-10c 1.1.1.1 and BS2 1.1.1.1 upgrade standalone versions are still installed and run perfectly.

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You can install the current DCS:World 1.2 without touching your other installs. Since you have the older version of World installed you may want to install 1.2 to a new directory (such as c:\dcsworld). After installing World, install the A-10c and BS2 Upgrade modules. Since you already have BS1 installed the BS2 upgrade module should install without any problems. I am currently running World 1.2 and my A-10c 1.1.1.1 and BS2 1.1.1.1 upgrade standalone versions are still installed and run perfectly.

 

I will give it a go.

 

Thank you.

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I vote no because it requires earlier version of LOMAC or FC, which I have but I won't install on my Win7 machine because of Starforce.

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I vote no because it requires earlier version of LOMAC or FC, which I have but I won't install on my Win7 machine because of Starforce.

Don't you mean 'No, because I don't understand how to install FC3'.

 

FC3 will only require an installation of LOMAC which has nothing to do with starforce.

If there is already a FC version installed on your system then you won't need to do anything, but all FC versions require the basic LOMAC first.

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I didnt think LOMAC has starforce. At least the version I have does not contain any disk protection. I bought it from Ubisofts website as a download only with no disc. It installs and runs very well on Windows 7 64bit.

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Correct, no protection on LOMAC. (With reservations that there might be some reissue somewhere that has some sort of protection on it, but I don't know of any that do.)

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I just remember installing Lomac Gold (LOMAC and FC) two disk pack on my Win7 PC and it trashed it.

 

I've had FC2 sitting on a shelf for 2 years cos I daren't install it.

 

So, do I install Lomac and then FC2? Will it work on Win7 x64?

 

I would like to learn this sim.

 

Cheers.

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FC2 installed after installing LOMAC works flawlessly on my Win7 64 and has since FC2 released.

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Thank-you Exorcet, I stand corrected then, I shall give it a try.

 

It must have been FC1 that did it. I remember contacting SF and if I remember correctly they said something about the program not being designed to run on Win7 etc. but that's a whole other topic.

 

Off to install it now,

 

Cheers,

 

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I just remember installing Lomac Gold (LOMAC and FC) two disk pack on my Win7 PC and it trashed it.

 

FC1 used the "old" Starforce.

LOMAC did not.

LOMAC Gold was a set that had LOMAC on one disc, FC1 on the second.

 

I've had FC2 sitting on a shelf for 2 years cos I daren't install it.

 

FC2 uses Starforce Proactive, driverless. It is incapable of "trashing" your computer, because it has no rights at all on your computer. It has nothing in common with the "old" Starforce aside from trademark. (Think of it like comparing Windows 3.11 and Windows 7 - the only thing they have in common is the name "Windows" and being produced by the same company.)

 

So, do I install Lomac and then FC2? Will it work on Win7 x64?

 

For FC3 you will only need LOMAC.

For FC2, yes, you can install LOMAC only (no FC1, so leave disc 2 from your Lock On Gold alone if you wish), and FC2 will install correctly at that point.

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Thanks EtherealN,

 

I have installed as instructed and FC2 launched OK.

 

I don't like having SF on my PC but hey, that's just my personal opinion.

 

Gotta learn how to fly this sim now. :)

 

Thanks for your help,

 

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Thanks EtherealN,

 

I have installed as instructed and FC2 launched OK.

 

I don't like having SF on my PC but hey, that's just my personal opinion.

 

Gotta learn how to fly this sim now. :)

 

Thanks for your help,

 

Corker.

 

nobody does, that is why Starforce proactive is no longer doing anything that is not done by Windows as well. Registering a unique "PC hash code" that is bound to your serial number. When the PC setup changes considerably you need to register the new setup's hash code with your serial number... Microsoft calls this online activation, the new starforce is quite similar. The only difference is the master server since it checks your serial for multiplayer everytime you play online to ensure you don't use the same serial no. on multiple PCs at the same time.

 

But as etherealN stated earlier, no 'installation' or messing with the OS like the driver based starforce of old.

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FC3? No.

 

But eagerly awaiting the Fast Mover and still enjoying the Hawg.

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I vote no because it requires earlier version of LOMAC or FC, which I have but I won't install on my Win7 machine because of Starforce.

 

I have the LockOn Platinum boxed set. LOMAC is required only once on one machine, is what I was told by two separate moderators/testers here.

 

I have Windows 7 Pro, 64-bit on an Alienware machine not even a year old, yet.

 

I have it on two separate Win 7 machines, two separate Win 7, 64 bit installations, each about $100 operating system, not illegal copies. My other machine makes it easier to access the doc pages, me not being online with it, while playing with the other online.

 

LOMAC installs in an Ubisoft sub-directory, while FC2 is under a separate sub-directory titled, Eagle Dynamics.

 

LOMAC installs first. I even played with it before installing FC2.

 

I plan on keeping both FC2 and FC3 if that works out OK. Moa said his Stallturn server for VNAO will most likely stay FC2. But the Stallturn server is usually lean to non-existent if looking for guys to fly with or against. I just get a kick landing on his aircraft carriers.

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My believe,FC-2 or FC-3 is a good play dough for many pilots regardless of skills which could cover a wide range of interests.

I’m I gonna fly it? I don’t know.

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