Gremlin's A-10

[Flim]

Looks good man, is the fps loss due to crossfire or 3 USB monitors connected?

[Gremlin77]

due to loss of CrossFire. Okay, running at full details and 1880x1800 pixels. But I think will get problems in future when I use the three projectors. Then resolution is at 4440x1800. Maybe I'll have to change graphic card then...

[mr_mojo97]

So Gremlin, what you gonna do when ED bring out the Tornado IDS?

[Gremlin77]

Start from the beginning.....................making panels

[metalnwood]

Thats a strange thing with the crossfire. There has been a bit of discussion about it over the last couple of years and I have never seen anyone get any real FPS gain with it enabled let alone a big drop when it is disabled.

 

Because DCS doesnt support it most people have seen a small increase in FPS with it disabled.

[Mr_Burns]

Okay, bought a "wireless spy-cam" from the store for 28€.

 

Here is the result: (In reality you can't see the pixels like in the pic)

 

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The camera looks like this:

 

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The result is let me say okay for rwr. But if you try it out with e.g. Backup ADI the quality is too poor for a good reading.

 

For my RWR I'll use it as "cheap solution for future improvement"

 

What a great idea!! :thumbup:

[Gremlin77]

I always thoght that the use of CrossFire is done via graphics drivers Catalyst. This should not depend on game. But perhaps I'm wrong.

The only thing I can say is, that I had about 80-90 fps with CrossFire, two Lilliputs and two beamers and only about 33-40 fps without CrossFire, one beamer and three Lilliputs. So I thought the loss of about 50% couldn't come from the one more USB monitor, 'cause overall resolution is less.

 

I will try to take out one graphic card, because DisplayLink doesn't support multiple graphic cards. Perhaps because of this the loss is so extreme.

[Gremlin77]

okay, did some programming last night.....

 

And what we have here: a nice little program that sends a monitor snippet over the network to another PC.

 

Why did I write that program?

 

Because I f... of with having only one PC for all my MFD's HUD etc.

 

Now I am able to use all my Lilliput monitors on a second PC and send the desired Screenparts to the displays.

 

In the pic below you can see A-10 running on the two big screen just for trying. The MFD's are exported through monitor configuration on the right screen. From here they are copied over UDP to the small laptop in the front and displayed on screen.

 

 

Now I can finally run HELIOS and the rwr, MFD's and CDU on a dedicated PC Halleluja!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

And the best thing: No fps drop due of program running in background

 

If there is interest, I'll pimp the prog the next days, so you can adjust which screenparts you want to copy where on the client PC screen more convinient. Now, you have to write it "in-code"

[Hansolo]

Great idea Gremlin and good job :thumbup:

 

That will be a very nice option to have the screens exported via ethernet. Seen quite a few request for this in the forum. How good/fast is the update rate for the screens?

 

 

Cheers

Hans

[Gremlin77]

At the moment I export 4 screen areas with 300x300 pixels every 0.1 Seconds. With this setting it runs very smooth. Every screenarea has compressed about 8 kB in size, makes about 320kB/Second to transfer. For experiment I used the laptop connected via WLAN at medium strength having no problem. In my pit I'll connect via LAN, should be no problem also. Will have to check what happens when the HELIOS data UDP stream also runs.

I am a bit surprised, that the whole copy from screen, compress and transfer process doesn't affect DCS framerate at all. Seems that the whole process needs only very few CPU power.

Don't know if it is usable for players who play in multiplayer mode. Think, there could be problems with network traffic then.

Edited March 12, 2013 by Gremlin77

[whartsell]

okay, did some programming last night.....

 

And what we have here: a nice little program that sends a monitor snippet over the network to another PC.

 

Why did I write that program?

 

Because I f... of with having only one PC for all my MFD's HUD etc.

 

Now I am able to use all my Lilliput monitors on a second PC and send the desired Screenparts to the displays.

 

In the pic below you can see A-10 running on the two big screen just for trying. The MFD's are exported through monitor configuration on the right screen. From here they are copied over UDP to the small laptop in the front and displayed on screen.

 

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Now I can finally run HELIOS and the rwr, MFD's and CDU on a dedicated PC Halleluja!!!!!:lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

And the best thing: No fps drop due of program running in background

 

If there is interest, I'll pimp the prog the next days, so you can adjust which screenparts you want to copy where on the client PC screen more convinient. Now, you have to write it "in-code"

 

I am VERY Interested in this :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[agrasyuk]

This is awesome. The reason for minimal FPS impact is that the entire compression process probably runs on different CPU core. Way to multi thread Grem :)

[Gremlin77]

okay, then I'm happy that I was lucky that it works like this.....

[Succellus]

Damn Gremlin, i wish i had your drive to be able to buils such....

Gratz, its awesome.

[Gremlin77]

A little update of the pit build, or better the around the pit thing.

 

Started last week making the support structure of the new floor.

 

This is how far I am at the moment after two days work:

 

And this is the remaining amount of wood. Damn!

 

So sorry guys for not finishing up the program for network sending of screencaptures. But if this room looks like this for a longer time, my wife will throw me out of the house! So finishing this room has priority now. But I promise, I'll finish up the prog as quickly as I can. If anybody wants, I can send him the VB code. Just send me a PM

[Hansolo]

Well Gremlin. You know; happy wife..... happy life :music_whistling:

 

Cheers

 

Hans

[Gremlin77]

this is the hard truth casually spoken...............

[Gremlin77]

just a quick update.

 

finished up the woodwork for the floor. After 2.500 screws I am quite happy with the result. And my hands are happy that it is finished :megalol:

 

Next step is the curved screen with about 9 meters in diameter and a segment of about 120 degrees. For this step the rest of the wood you see is necesarry.

 

Hope it will work easily to continue making simulator stuff......

[BIGNEWY]

Looks amazing gremlin, very neat

[whartsell]

Gremlin,

I checked out your sample screen server code here at work and it appears to work great. Ill prolly do some tweaking this weekend or next week to make it a little more user friendly and share the results. If that is fine with you.

[Gremlin77]

sure, just do it. Would save me a lot of work if you can do this!

[Krupi]

:fear:

 

Simply incredible :thumbup:

[71st_Mastiff]

Dont forget to put some wood trim around the base of you plane.. Will make it loook cleaner.

 

Nice work. :thumbup:

[Gremlin77]

the wood is not the final layer for the floor. when the ground construction is completed, I'll put some aluminium diamond plates on the floor. Probably I'll powder coat them in camouflage (light grey, light blue and white). BTW I'm the manager of a powder coating company, so would be easy to realise for me.

[hegykc]

WOW!

 

Does the room look out to the street? There were some big windows on the side if I remember correctly. Should be an interesting view for anyone passing by when it's not in use.

 

Oh look, a tornado in this guy's house, hm..