Announcing Lock On: Flaming Cliffs 3

[Witchking]

Yes, for all player SFM aircraft.

 

Basically, the wheels no longer "stick to the runway" now and landings are takeoffs are much more dynamic.

 

Fantastic news Wags. This was my primary wish for FC3. Glad to see. I hated the landings in regular aircraft after using Su25T and Su25 in FC1 and 2 and DCS A-10C. Glad to see this feature.

 

I am looking forward for the "Improved special effects".

 

Fingers crossed for explosions with debris...better fire...better smoke...dust...smoke trails....thicker smoke.....smokey engines....

 

For future in DCS..it would be awsome to see Falcon 4 BMS style turbulence effecting airframe model and ordinance. :smilewink::pilotfly:

[almonds]

What a great year for us fans :)

[Sanch0]

@Wags, any word about ECM and ECCM?

[NineLine]

If the F-15 is getting cockpit goodies, I would imagine a bright intelligent modder could add these options to the other aircraft, I would think anyways...

 

Anyways... looking forward to this for sure...

[prok]

Super!!!

[mwd2]

Expanded theatre of operations map into eastern Georgia.

 

How far east...? Any map previews pictures?

[Nate--IRL--]

How far east...? Any map previews pictures?

 

Expanded from FC2 terrain size to current DCS world map.

 

Nate

[Aries]

How far east...? Any map previews pictures?

 

Just follow the river after Inguri Dam... you'll find the spawnpoint... just be sure to take your CBUs along...

 

:D

[Vecko]

TY ED !!!:crash: ;)

Edited September 1, 2012 by Vecko

[Jona33]

For now maybe not but f*ck me that eagle cockpit looks incredible. You giving us a hint wags? :D (Waits for storm of speculation.)

[jmod]

Do we have the ability to buy only one aircraft from the collection?

I just care about F-15C Eagle, so, I have to install all other aircrafts?

[92nd-MajorBug]

Any map previews pictures?

Just fire up DCS World. Apart from the new F-15 cockpit, everything that's announced for FC3 is already there.

[mwd2]

Expanded from FC2 terrain size to current DCS world map.

 

Nate

 

Okay, so no additional terrain for DCS World, just the terrain size compare to FC2 growth up in FC3.

 

Question: I have a german version from Lock On:MAC - can i use it for the english version of FC3?

[EtherealN]

Just fire up DCS World. Apart from the new F-15 cockpit, everything that's announced for FC3 is already there.

 

Here you go:

 

Key Features of Lock On: Flaming Cliffs 3 include:

• A DCS World module that is compatible with DCS titles.
  
• New F-15C campaign and single missions.
  
• Improved takeoff and landing flight dynamics.
  
• New, advanced flight dynamics for air-to-air missiles.
  
• Updated and improved HUDs and other cockpit systems.
  
• Resource Manager that adds logistics control to missions.
  
• Countless other improvements in the areas of the mission editor, special effects, new models, improved terrain detail and AI.
  

 

I removed the F-15C cockpit from the list. As you can see, there's still quite a few things left. And remember, these are key features.

[Jona33]

One thing I noticed is "DCS world includes a Free Su-25T with unlimited online capabilities", that's new by the looks of things.

[Agg]

With "improved special effects" does this mean that we'll finally get some vapor effects?

 

The cockpit looks very nice, but I have'nt really made up my mind yet...

[Nate--IRL--]

One thing I noticed is "DCS world includes a Free Su-25T with unlimited online capabilities", that's new by the looks of things.

 

That is worded badly I think - AFAIK nothing in that regard has changed. I'll ask and find out.

 

Nate

[Kenan]

• Improved takeoff and landing flight dynamics.

Thanks ED for listening your community (once again). I'm buying FC3 only because of this + the new F15C cockpit looks amazing.

 

 

Keep up the good work! :)

[Wags]

One thing I noticed is "DCS world includes a Free Su-25T with unlimited online capabilities", that's new by the looks of things.

 

Yes, DCSW will soon allow unlimited online play for the Su-25T, regardless of a DCS purchase. This is a new change.

[92nd-MajorBug]

That "key features" list is only accurate from the point of view of someone upgrading from FC2 to FC3. That's a way to justify the high price tag, because telling people "our old code was a mess and we had to work a lot just to get those planes into DCS World" might not convince as much.

 

And honestly that's perfectly fine by me. ED isn't working for free, they need to make money, that's the way to go. But you can't expect that no one will see through the communication, especially since it's the second time it happens. A lot of the "loyal customers" know the drill by now.

 

I'll say again. Everything that is not specific to some FC2 plane (like the F-15C cockpit) is already in DCS World, or if it's not, it shall come around as a free patch. It was exactly the same with BS2 upgrade. Apart for some bug fixes, every "key feature" was already in DCS Warthog at that time.

 

After all, do you really mean that we don't already have the expanded map, better mission editor, resource management, better AI, better models, etc etc, in DCS World ? Come on ..

[Nate--IRL--]

Yes, DCSW will soon allow unlimited online play for the Su-25T, regardless of a DCS purchase. This is a new change.

 

Cool I didn't know that. Good idea.

 

Nate

[Kusch]

AI multiple targets its implemented in FC3?

[cichlidfan]

Do we have the ability to buy only one aircraft from the collection?

I just care about F-15C Eagle, so, I have to install all other aircrafts?

 

No. It is one product, not a package deal. You don't have to fly the other aircraft but yes, they will be installed automatically.

 

I take it, you have never looked at Lock-On, which you will also have to install (and purchase if you do not own it), or Flaming Cliffs 2.

[EtherealN]

That "key features" list is only accurate from the point of view of someone upgrading from FC2 to FC3.

 

Okey, I'll do this again. :)

 

Key Features of Lock On: Flaming Cliffs 3 include:

• A DCS World module that is compatible with DCS titles. New for FC3.
  
• New 6 degrees of freedom (6DOF) cockpit and model for the F-15C. New for FC3, but negated by your cockpit statement.
  
• New F-15C campaign and single missions. New for FC3.
  
• Improved takeoff and landing flight dynamics. New for FC3.
  
• New, advanced flight dynamics for air-to-air missiles. New for FC3.
  
• Updated and improved HUDs and other cockpit systems. New for FC3.
  
• Resource Manager that adds logistics control to missions. New for FC3.
  
• Expanded theatre of operations map into eastern Georgia. FC2-FC3-specific, but note how I didn't include it previously.
  
• Countless other improvements in the areas of the mission editor, special effects, new models, improved terrain detail and AI. Mix.
  

Edited September 1, 2012 by EtherealN

[Kenan]

but seriously I'm starting to feel "milked". 40$ is a steep price just for DCS World compatibility.

 

I respect your opinion, but I personally would pay every cent for it just because of the improved landing physics and 6DOF F-15C cockpit. Those 2 things alone, in my opinion, are worth the money.