pixelpilot Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 +1Whats with the BS2 update requires BS1 installed and activated? Am I going to get this everytime? I had a rant about that too. I was tired and pissed off at the time, but yes it is quite annoying. Here is a different question tho, After uninstalling i'm left with any folders which have modified files in (custom liveries, a few LOD fixes and zzzspace's sound mod) is there any reason i cant stick these back in after the new version is installed? will i even need the LOD fixes?
Frogisis Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) Hi, what are your system specs please? Maybe the FPS problem is just nVidia related? Oh, duh, sorry - I was even thinking I had to post those before I started writing: Win7 64x AMD Phenom II x6 @3.8GHz GTX 570 OC'd to 988/1970 16GB DDR2 @500(ish) Resolution at 1920x1080, MFDs at 256, everything else at maximum except the AA, which was just on 2x, and I was getting about 50~60fps above 2000ft, and about 30~40 below. Mitigating factors: MaxFPS set to 60 in graphics.cfg, episode of The Colbert Report on other monitor, and it's a "custom" machine Ship-of-Theseus'd together from an old HP Pavillion. I might turn off the tree shadows, though, since outside the AA that seems to have the biggest effect on frames and I haven't tested anything really over-the-top yet, though even the CBU-87 impacts are less choppy than they were before (~10fps instead of 2~3). Something about the smoke on the new explosions seems a little toy-like again, though... Edited October 2, 2012 by Frogisis For when it goes wrong: Win10x64, GTX1080, Intel i7 @3.5 GHz, 32GB DDR3, Warthog HOTAS, Saitek combat rudder pedals, TrackIR 5 / Vive Pro, a case of Pabst, The Funk
Tellurico Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Oh, duh, sorry - I was even thinking I had to post those before I started writing: Win7 64x AMD Phenom II x6 @3.8GHz GTX 570 OC'd to 988/1970 16GB DDR2 @500(ish) Resolution at 1920x1080, MFDs at 256, everything else at maximum except the AA, which was just on 2x, and I was getting about 50~60fps above 2000ft, and about 30~40 below. Mitigating factors: MaxFPS set to 60 in graphics.cfg, episode of The Colbert Report on other monitor, and it's a "custom" machine Ship-of-Theseus'd together from an old HP Pavillion. I might turn off the tree shadows, though, since outside the AA that seems to have the biggest effect on frames and I haven't tested anything really over-the-top yet, though even the CBU-87 impacts are less choppy than they were before (~10fps instead of 2~3). Something about the smoke on the new explosions seems a little toy-like again, though... Thank you Frogisis. I'll try to work out what is causing the FPS drop tonight changing various settings...
cohead Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 i comfirm.... uninstall 1.2.0 and instal 1.2.1 eat one activation. But uninstall 1.2.1 and install again dont need activation btw.. same players report flashing mouse cursor in cockpit. yellow cross chang to mouse arrow every time when moving.. i have this problem too. I have this problem too... It's very annoying...
doveman Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I uninstalled 1.2.0 before installing 1.2.1 and it's asking me to waste an activation as well. I've already used a few as I have two Win7 and one XP partitions which I've been testing in, so I don't want to waste one unnecessarily. I don't understand why it's asking, as my licence details are still in the registry and besides it says in the first post that "A new activation will not be required unless this is the first time you have installed the product" so can someone fix this please? Main rig: i5-4670k @4.4Ghz, Asus Z97-A, Scythe Kotetsu HSF, 32GB Kingston Savage 2400Mhz DDR3, 1070ti, Win 10 x64, Samsung Evo 256GB SSD (OS & Data), OCZ 480GB SSD (Games), WD 2TB and WD 3TB HDDs, 1920x1200 Dell U2412M, 1920x1080 Dell P2314T touchscreen
Loki_ Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I have 1.2.1.5970 - just installed world and it already had an auto-update to apply. Is anyone else running a different version?
71st_Mastiff Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I have 1.2.1.5970 - just installed world and it already had an auto-update to apply. Is anyone else running a different version? no its looking for the update server and verify.. "any failure you meet, is never a defeat; merely a set up for a greater come back", W Forbes. "Success is not final, failure is not fatal, it is the courage to continue that counts", "He who never changes his mind, never changes anything," Winston Churchill. MSI z690 MPG DDR4 || i9-14900k|| ddr4-64gb PC3200 |zotac RTX 5080|Game max 1300w|Win11| |turtle beach elite pro 5.1|| ViRpiL,T50cm2||MFG Crosswinds|| VT50CM-plus rotor Throttle || Z10 RGB EVGA Keyboard/ G502LogiMouse || PiMax Crystal VR || 32 Asus||
kobac Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Now I want to know if we should still must to deactivate all modules and uninstall v.1.2.0 then install version 1.2.1 (in order to preserve activation), and whether the removal of perceived errors (bugs) will go through AutoUpdater or we need to wait for a new version (eg 1.2.2)? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC]Everything is possible ...
Speedbrake Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Auto Update??? Whenever ED updates DCS World or it's modules I burn the updates to a DVD(s) after I'm sure they installed correctly. With auto update is there a way to back up each update? I realize that this might save a great deal of time and effort. Does that mean the there will now longer be total program updates that can be backed up on one's computer, harddrive or USB drive?
SGT Coyle Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Can I disable auto update? I'd rather not have my game go to shit every week because the update was ****ed. Night Ops in the Harrier IYAOYAS
Fakum Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Bookmarking this one Windows 10 Pro - 64 Bit / ASUS ROG Strix B650E-F Gaming / AMD 7800X3D / G.Skill Trident Z5 NEO 64GB DDR5 6000 Ram / SSD M.2 SK hynix Platinum P41 2TB / MSI Gaming GeForce RTX 4090 SUPRIM Liquid X 24G / SteelSeries Arctis 7 Headset /LG-Ultragear 38" IPS LED Ultrawide HD Monitor (3840 x 1600) / Track IR4 / Thrustmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals / Virpil HOTAS VPC Constellation ALPHA-R & VPC MongoosT-50CM3 Throttle
ajax Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Regarding the issue of activation: I've noticed in v 1.2.0 that every so often (every 5th? connection to the master server) the activation window pops up for one of the modules I have. As they are all already activated I just hit cancel (or exit?) and everything works fine. I wonder if this is the same thing for v 1.2.1. Has anyone just cancelled the activation step to see if it works anyway?
Tellurico Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) Anti-aliasing makes FPS drop!!! Regarding the FPS problem, the cause is indeed in anti-aliasing! :mad: I did a lot of testing in the past days (on 1.2.0) with MSI Afterburner and CPU monitoring tools always opened on my 2nd monitor while trying to overclock my i7 2600K and 680GTX at their top and I created some benchmarking situations to get a hang on the performance I was getting while OCing. Today, in the same situations, my GPU was always working at 97-98% (even in outside views) when before updating it used to run at 70-80%. Selectively deactivating the features in my nVidia control panel I finally got back to the old FPS with anti-aliasing set to OFF. Probably something was changed to the AA handling in the code and is now uselessly overloading the GPU, where before it made a 1-2% difference going from no AA to 16xQ CSAA now puts a 20-30% stress on the GPU. I hope the guys at Eagle Dynamics are aware of this and will provide a patch soon. Now the only option is flying with AA at 2X or 4X to get the minimum impact on FPS... :doh: Edited October 2, 2012 by Tellurico
wess24m Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Your system specs? Intel Core i7-3960X 80 Gig SSD 16 Gig of DDR3 GTX 580
wess24m Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Hi, what are your system specs please? Maybe the FPS problem is just nVidia related? My system is: - ASUS Sabertooth Z77 - i7 2600K OC @ 4.8GHz - 16GB RAM 1600MHz - PNY nVidia GTX680 2GB VRAM - Samsung SSD 256GB Before updating I had 60-80 FPS average in the first A-10 instant action mission, after update it's 30-40 FPS... I have a nvidia gtx 580, no problems so far. I'm running at 1080 with every ingame setting maxed with mirrors enabled (something that would slow me down to a crawl before).
Tellurico Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I have a nvidia gtx 580, no problems so far. I'm running at 1080 with every ingame setting maxed with mirrors enabled (something that would slow me down to a crawl before). Anti-Aliasing setting?
doveman Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Regarding the issue of activation: I've noticed in v 1.2.0 that every so often (every 5th? connection to the master server) the activation window pops up for one of the modules I have. As they are all already activated I just hit cancel (or exit?) and everything works fine. I wonder if this is the same thing for v 1.2.1. Has anyone just cancelled the activation step to see if it works anyway? No, I tried that and clicking exit brings the activation window up once more and clicking exit again then tries to load BS2 but after waiting the usual length of time for it to finish loading, it then obviously realises it's not activated and quits, starts to reload the GUI and then crashes with a message that DCS has stopped working. Main rig: i5-4670k @4.4Ghz, Asus Z97-A, Scythe Kotetsu HSF, 32GB Kingston Savage 2400Mhz DDR3, 1070ti, Win 10 x64, Samsung Evo 256GB SSD (OS & Data), OCZ 480GB SSD (Games), WD 2TB and WD 3TB HDDs, 1920x1200 Dell U2412M, 1920x1080 Dell P2314T touchscreen
wess24m Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Anti-Aliasing setting? I'm at work but I believe it's set at 32x or 16x (in nvidia control panel) i'll look when i get home. I do remember that I went into control panel and set everything towards quality vs speed.
LordLobs Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I'm still getting "DCS has stopped working" everytime I quit a mission in 1.2.1 6055 Anyone else having this issue?
Gaanalma Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Regarding the FPS problem, the cause is indeed in anti-aliasing! :mad: I did a lot of testing in the past days (on 1.2.0) with MSI Afterburner and CPU monitoring tools always opened on my 2nd monitor while trying to overclock my i7 2600K and 680GTX at their top and I created some benchmarking situations to get a hang on the performance I was getting while OCing. Today, in the same situations, my GPU was always working at 97-98% (even in outside views) when before updating it used to run at 70-80%. Selectively deactivating the features in my nVidia control panel I finally got back to the old FPS with anti-aliasing set to OFF. Probably something was changed to the AA handling in the code and is now uselessly overloading the GPU, where before it made a 1-2% difference going from no AA to 16xQ CSAA now puts a 20-30% stress on the GPU. I hope the guys at Eagle Dynamics are aware of this and will provide a patch soon. Now the only option is flying with AA at 2X or 4X to get the minimum impact on FPS... :doh: :thumbup: Great! [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] www.36stormovirtuale.net
Tailgate Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 Did the Train , JTAC and F7 (? vehicle view) fixes make it into this build?
doveman Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I see Wags has edited the first post to say "Note: Deactivate your products!" although it still says "Note: A new activation will not be required unless this is the first time you have installed the product." So ED: Are you going to credit me an activation to make up for the one lost by following the original bad instructions? Main rig: i5-4670k @4.4Ghz, Asus Z97-A, Scythe Kotetsu HSF, 32GB Kingston Savage 2400Mhz DDR3, 1070ti, Win 10 x64, Samsung Evo 256GB SSD (OS & Data), OCZ 480GB SSD (Games), WD 2TB and WD 3TB HDDs, 1920x1200 Dell U2412M, 1920x1080 Dell P2314T touchscreen
Nate--IRL-- Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 I see Wags has edited the first post to say "Note: Deactivate your products!" although it still says "Note: A new activation will not be required unless this is the first time you have installed the product." So ED: Are you going to credit me an activation to make up for the one lost by following the original bad instructions? I assure you the situation is most definitely not being ignored. Nate Ka-50 AutoPilot/stabilisation system description and operation by IvanK- Essential Reading
ED Team BIGNEWY Posted October 2, 2012 ED Team Posted October 2, 2012 http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1566540&postcount=3 DCS 1.2.1 Update - 2 October 2012 The team is reading the feedback and is actively taking steps to remedy the problems identified in 1.2.1 to include: 1- Reimbursing used activations when updating to 1.2.1. 2- Addressing continued issues with the master server. 3- Migrating several fixes in the internal versions to the auto updater. 4- Providing a change log to the Auto Updater dialog window. 5- Providing solutions to frame rate issues that some users are having. The team is working hard on these and we hope to have this issues resolved as soon as possible. Thanks Even with all the problems I am having with FPS and effects.dll I would like to thank Wags and his team for the auto update feature and the quick customer feedback. It is very encouraging. 1 Forum rules - DCS Crashing? Try this first - Cleanup and Repair - Discord BIGNEWY#8703 - Youtube - Patch Status Windows 11, NVIDIA MSI RTX 3090, Intel® i9-10900K 3.70GHz, 5.30GHz Turbo, Corsair Hydro Series H150i Pro, 64GB DDR @3200, ASUS ROG Strix Z490-F Gaming, PIMAX Crystal
YoYo Posted October 2, 2012 Posted October 2, 2012 How many updated news the last time ;) but its very good to inform about all process and progress. Better than be a silence and no infos. Thx a lot and keep good work!! Webmaster of http://www.yoyosims.pl Win 10 64, i9-13900 KF, RTX 5090 32Gb OC, RAM 64Gb Corsair Vengeance LED OC@3600MHz,, 3xSSD+3xSSD M.2 NVMe, Predator XB271HU res.2560x1440 27'' G-sync, Sound Blaster Z + 5.1, TiR5, [MSFS, P3Dv5, DCS, RoF, Condor2, IL-2 CoD/BoX] VR fly only: Meta Quest Pro
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