New screenies of FC3

[Witchking]

Looks like a cushion in case of the pilots head being thrown forward rapidly.

 

Edit: Or do you mean the whole assembly?

 

 

look here too. Yeah! It seems common in the old generation planes...especially almost all russian aircraft have it.

 

IN black shark, That panel with the "day night" switch in the Ka 50....on top of that...its almost like a head rest as u say.

[monotwix]

Is that the thing with the zero?

Ah Bingo, HUD projector.

Edited October 5, 2012 by monotwix

[amalahama]

Okay, Okay, it's to show the Radar and Map*... commonly as a HDD - Heads Down Display..

 

*map as in waypoints and route... in Lomac the airfields aswel.

 

Not really... It has two modes: Map (showing datalink contacts as well, but no radar contacts) and HUD repeater. Radar is controlled and displayed on the HUD.

 

In Mig-29 though, only HUD repeater mode is available

 

Regards!

[monotwix]

I can assume that the electronic equipment is the same for all SU or MIG series, they only mess around with the assembly of flight dynamics.

[Scooternutz]

Looks like a hand hold to me.

[Witchking]

yup! Thats what I thought...but in some planes it is written (the Mustang) "No hand hold"

[cichlidfan]

yup! Thats what I thought...but in some planes it is written (the Mustang) "No hand hold"

 

Like this.

[Witchking]

yup! exactly.

[cichlidfan]

As for the Mustang, although it looks padded in some pics, I don't think it is. Also, IIRC from my reading, the pilots were strapped in fairly well by their crew chief so I am not sure it would have been likely that their head would reach it under normal circumstances. If their head did hit it I should think a risk of broken neck, assuming a pivot at the waist, would be quite high even with some padding.

Edited October 6, 2012 by cichlidfan

[monotwix]

I can’t think of anything less than an airbag for carrier landing.

[leafer]

It's a place to paint no hand hold. DUH!

[Presing]

...

In Mig-29 though, only HUD repeater mode is available...

 

What version of the MiG-29????

[DayGlow]

Yup and I think that's the main reason why we'll all buy FC3 but wait...that sounds familiar :

 

 

 

So once again ED is asking us to pay for something promised years ago and that we've already paid for.

 

The way I see it, ED is trying to fix mistakes they did in the past but in the meantime we pay for their mistakes.

I really hope it's gonna stop but it doesn't seem so evident since Wags already mentioned a possible Combined Arms 2.

The first one is still in beta but they already have plans for a sequel ?

And on the other hand we have almost 2 years of complete silence about the next DCS US fighter.

There's so much secrecy around ED's plans it's becoming ridiculous.

 

I know we're in a transition and the future seems quite bright but right now everything is so messy...

 

They have secrecy because a planned feature or idea that doesnt make the cut becomes a promise and a lie :doh:

Edited October 6, 2012 by DayGlow

[wasserfall]

No, no, it"s the head OFF display!!

[Eight Ball]

They have secrecy because a planned feature or idea that doesnt make the cut becomes a promise and a lie :doh:

 

I'm not against some secrecy but sometimes it looks like we're talking to CIA agents and the info we ask would endanger world security.

 

I've re-read my post and I admit it looks like a rant. It wasn't.

I have no problem paying ED for their hard work.

But I still think there's room for improvement in the way ED communicates with its community.

 

IIRC while the warthog was still in beta (or maybe it was right after release) Wags said they were working on a popular US fighter. Since then we haven't heard a single word from them. I can hardly believe that right now they're still not sure about their next modules.

[71st_Mastiff]

I'm not against some secrecy but sometimes it looks like we're talking to CIA agents and the info we ask would endanger world security.

 

I've re-read my post and I admit it looks like a rant. It wasn't.

I have no problem paying ED for their hard work.

But I still think there's room for improvement in the way ED communicates with its community.

 

IIRC while the warthog was still in beta (or maybe it was right after release) Wags said they were working on a popular US fighter. Since then we haven't heard a single word from them. I can hardly believe that right now they're still not sure about their next modules.

 

I think Wags worked at skunk works think tank over in Santa Monica at one point?

I didn't use the real name for a reason.

[EtherealN]

IIRC while the warthog was still in beta (or maybe it was right after release) Wags said they were working on a popular US fighter. Since then we haven't heard a single word from them.

 

Incorrect. It has been mentioned in multiple news updates as well as e-mail newsletters.

 

Regarding Dayglow's statement: there is much truth to it. ED has been very very burned by community reactions to things like stating ambitions and hopes - when it doesn't materialize the statement of ambition will have morphed in the collective consciousness into an absolute promise. Fact is that compared to most companies in the software entertainment industry ED talks a lot about it's future projects, and early. A quick example: Blizzard has a new MMO that has been in active development since at least 2007, and the only officially acknowledged information is:

 

1) It's an MMO.

2) It's been "playable" since 2011.

 

The reason people don't react to things like this, in general, for other computer game developers, is that they generally don't even let people know they've been working on anything until the project has already seen active, full-scale, development for several years.

Edited October 7, 2012 by EtherealN

[MemphisBelle]

The reason people don't react to things like this, in general, for other computer game developers, is that they generally don't even let people know they've been working on anything until the project has already seen active, full-scale, development for several years.

 

Another example is Valve with it´s secret about a probably or probably not been developed Half Life 3...the community hasnt got any info for years. This is what I call a bad way to communicate with it´s community.

 

The reason why we sometimes feel not enough informed by ED is the simple fact that we´re sitting too close to ED. We can nearly listen to them how they are working. That´s why we want to listen more and we want to read and know more about what happens behind ED´s closed doors.

 

that means..we need more distance sometimes and probabaly do somethings else then trying to get new info every day.

Edited October 7, 2012 by MemphisBelle

[wilky510]

Incorrect. It has been mentioned in multiple news updates as well as e-mail newsletters.

 

Regarding Dayglow's statement: there is much truth to it. ED has been very very burned by community reactions to things like stating ambitions and hopes - when it doesn't materialize the statement of ambition will have morphed in the collective consciousness into an absolute promise. Fact is that compared to most companies in the software entertainment industry ED talks a lot about it's future projects, and early. A quick example: Blizzard has a new MMO that has been in active development since at least 2007, and the only officially acknowledged information is:

 

1) It's an MMO.

2) It's been "playable" since 2011.

 

The reason people don't react to things like this, in general, for other computer game developers, is that they generally don't even let people know they've been working on anything until the project has already seen active, full-scale, development for several years.

Sadly being burned by the community CAN be a double edged sword. When you finally release said aircraft.. people will be unhappy with that 'certain' aircraft. I know i would flip if i found it was an early version of an F-4, or an F-86. While some people might enjoy those. Some people wouldn't. You just can't win these days.

 

But i understand why you guys won't let any information out. I understand so much, i check this site on a daily basis, just waiting for that information to be finally released!

[upupandaway]

I can´t really understand why people fixate on specific planes. There´s massive content inbound from 3rd parties. There´s gotta be something in this alone for everyone. Other than that, one just has to look at the A-10, the Ka-50 and the P-51 to know that it will be awesome (99%), whichever aircraft we get.

 

The leak of HL² was a debacle image-wise and the team of BM Source released only very limited info after they had made their own bad experiences.

Edited October 7, 2012 by upupandaway

[cichlidfan]

I think Wags worked at skunk works think tank over in Santa Monica at one point?

 

Actually, according to an old interview, Matt did once work for one of those three letter acronyms that are very security concious. ;)

Edited October 7, 2012 by cichlidfan

[Eight Ball]

Incorrect. It has been mentioned in multiple news updates as well as e-mail newsletters.

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Yes, mentioned. But did they reveal any new information ?

 

My main problem is the initial anouncement. What was the need to talk about the next module while we were still in the early days of the warthog ?

 

IMO the way ED communicated about CA and the P-51 was better.

A first anouncement then a bit later more info then a beta, etc.

 

2 years of waiting create big expectation and just like wilky said it's a double edged sword.

 

Also, IMO, saying that other studios are doing worst is irrelevant.

Other studio are also doing better too.

 

I mean it's just like kids who had a bad test and tell their parents "yeah but bill, john and bob had worst results". That's not how it works, you shouldn't be satisified of yourself just because others are doing worst than you do. You should look at those who're doing better and aim for that.

Edited October 7, 2012 by Eight Ball

[Nate--IRL--]

My main problem is the initial anouncement. What was the need to talk about the next module while we were still in the early days of the warthog ?

 

They were basically hounded into providing some sort of answer. They are under no obligation to satisfy your curiosity.

 

Nate

[leafer]

CA2?

[Eight Ball]

They were basically hounded into providing some sort of answer. They are under no obligation to satisfy your curiosity.

 

Nate

 

Yeah whatever, ED's communication is perfect, there're no critics to be made whatsoever.

 

CA2?

 

Wags was answering some features request and said they definitely wont be in CA but they might be considered for an eventual CA2

Edited October 7, 2012 by Eight Ball