woofer15 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Seems I find little tid-bits here and there on the forums about which settings rely on GPU v CPU- but not for all. Could a brilliant and informed contributor let us know which settings rely on CPU or GPU (which one predominates)??? It seems, from forum feedback, that my CPU may be the bottleneck and it appears I have available overhead with my GPU (example: I can up scenes and textures from MED to HIGH with ZERO FPS hit…but get low FPS during many highly populated missions, esp. the campaign). Just trying to reduce load on CPU as much as possible since this thing won't use multicore or xfire to help out… TEXTURES: ? SCENES: ? CIV: ? WATER: ? VIS: ? HEAT: ? SHAD: ? RES: ? DISPLAY RES: ? MSAA: ? Clutter: ? TREES: ? HDR: ? TSSAA: ? MIRRORS: ? TGP view on (lose 10fps): ? MY STATS: 2x Crossfired XFX Double D HD-687A-ZDFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCIE AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor (OC'd to 3.7GHZ) ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALx 500GB 7200 RPM G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Thank you very much!! SPECS: Phenom II X4 965BE OC 3.9GHz on M4A79XTD EVO | XFX GeForce 970 GTX 4GB FTW+ (single monitor) | HOTAS Warthog | TrackIR 5 | CH Pro Pedals | G.SKILL Ripjaw 16GB DDR3 | Win 7 64-bit Home Premium | Corsair TX750W | WD Caviar Black 500GB @ 7200 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadTommy Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 AFAIK the only 'setting' that will use more CPU that GPU is civilian traffic. And even that i'm unsure of. The CPU gets hammered by all the AI logic and numerous calculations required in a complex sim. No settings can influence that. i5-3570K @ 4.5 Ghz, Asus P8Z77-V, 8 GB DDR3, 1.5GB GTX 480 (EVGA, superclocked), SSD, 2 x 1680x1050, x-fi extreme music. TM Warthog, Saitek combat pro pedals, TrackIR 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofer15 Posted October 6, 2012 Author Share Posted October 6, 2012 Well thats discouraging - but thanks anyway. I don't really get increased FPS in campaign by turning off civ traffic. Guess the CPU is too busy with other things to even notice…recommended CPU spec is "AMD Phenom X3 8750 or better" - mine is certainly better! I just don't get it ……what a shame. SPECS: Phenom II X4 965BE OC 3.9GHz on M4A79XTD EVO | XFX GeForce 970 GTX 4GB FTW+ (single monitor) | HOTAS Warthog | TrackIR 5 | CH Pro Pedals | G.SKILL Ripjaw 16GB DDR3 | Win 7 64-bit Home Premium | Corsair TX750W | WD Caviar Black 500GB @ 7200 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApoNOOB Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 I read something like that about Shadows, that one should turn them on medium or high. Can someone confirm/deny this? Also I have everything on low and still my FPS suck. Is turning on Window mode also bad for FPS? I turned this on because of crashes in MP+Alt Tab. I don't have my specs in my head but it should be Phenom II 940 @3ghz,8GB Ram & ATI 4890 HD. Not sure right now. In the mission Trax Dogfight_V4.9b I went as low as 3fps.. Something is not right here. :) Sorry for engrish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chazz_BMF Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 MY STATS: 2x Crossfired XFX Double D HD-687A-ZDFC Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCIE AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor (OC'd to 3.7GHZ) ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2 750W Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALx 500GB 7200 RPM G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 Thank you very much!! crossfire doesnt help at all with DCS, I get much better performance with it disabled. :thumbup: :pilotfly:Wolfpack Production:pilotfly: -=<[WiN 10, I7 3770K @ 4,5 Ghz, Corsair H100i, Sabertooth Z77, 16 GB Dominator, Sapphire 7970 VaporX 6GB, C70 Vengance, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS, Saitek Pro rudder, Track IR, Beyerdynamics MMX 300 ]>=- DCS/FC2/FC3/Arma videos on my channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/WolfpackproductionDK "Fortes Furtuna Juvat" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I Run: MED Preset, Text.=Med, Scene=Med, Civ Traffic=Hi, Visibility Range=HI, Water=HI, Heat Blur=On, Shadow=Med, 6048x1080, 5.6 Aspect Ratio, Monitors: Custom LUA (1 Viewport, GUI Center Screen only), Pit Displays=256px, MSAA=2x, HDR=Off. VSYNC OFF, TREE SHADOWS OFF, FULL SCREEN OFF, Cockpit Shadows OFF, TSSAA Off Never Dips below playable FrameRates. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey45 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Xfire and SLI is not supported AFAIK. The only way to make sense out of change is to plunge into it, move with it, and join the dance. "Me, the 13th Duke of Wybourne, here on the ED forums at 3 'o' clock in the morning, with my reputation. Are they mad.." https://ko-fi.com/joey45 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt-1 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 recommended CPU spec is "AMD Phenom X3 8750 or better" - mine is certainly better! I just don't get it ……what a shame. I feel for you. I posted a similar question more than 2 yrs. ago about FC2. And never got any reply from them. My Specs. below ASUS TUF Z390 Pro Gaming I5 9600K@4.5 Ghz. 32 Gb. G. Skill Rip Jaw V DDR4 @ 3200 MSI Gaming 1070 TI Samsung 970 EVO+ NVME Pcie 500GB Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD OCZ 120GB vertex 2 SSD Win10 64 Pro TM Warthog TM Cougar Samsuny Odyssey + CH Pro Pedals ASUS 32" 2560X1440 Main Samsung 23" LED/LCD 1920X1080 Corsair TX 850W Corsair H100i GTX HAF 932 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lange_666 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 recommended CPU spec is "AMD Phenom X3 8750 or better" - mine is certainly better! Don't get caught in this "recommended" phrase when buying a computer game/sim. Even high end systems can't run some games decently when they are released although the recommended CPU spec is way lower then that system. It's a major rule which i learned through the years. Sometimes (mostly) you even have to wait a CPU generation or two before you can. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind combat pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TZeer Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Xfire and SLI is not supported AFAIK. SLI works, running dual GTX 580 without a problem :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Druid_ Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 SLI works, running dual GTX 580 without a problem :) Yeh the sim runs but have you checked to see if both VGA cards are running in unison (i.e. equal load distribution)? You'll find they aren't. i7-7700K : 16Gb DDR4 2800 Mhz : Asus Mobo : 2TB HDD : Intel 520 SSD 240gb : RTX 2080ti: Win10 64pro : Dx10 : TrackiR4 : TM Warthog : ASUS ROG SWIFT PG348Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofer15 Posted October 7, 2012 Author Share Posted October 7, 2012 Thanks all - I got a 20% boost after updating to 1.2.1.6192 (or whatever is most recent) - one more improvement like that and it will be playable 95% of the time …seems like theres room for ED to improve so I will hold my breath. Standing by… SPECS: Phenom II X4 965BE OC 3.9GHz on M4A79XTD EVO | XFX GeForce 970 GTX 4GB FTW+ (single monitor) | HOTAS Warthog | TrackIR 5 | CH Pro Pedals | G.SKILL Ripjaw 16GB DDR3 | Win 7 64-bit Home Premium | Corsair TX750W | WD Caviar Black 500GB @ 7200 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisBelle Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Don't get caught in this "recommended" phrase when buying a computer game/sim. Even high end systems can't run some games decently when they are released although the recommended CPU spec is way lower then that system. It's a major rule which i learned through the years. Sometimes (mostly) you even have to wait a CPU generation or two before you can. That´s why I never have and never will buy a new "recommended" PC. I always put all parts together by my own and built them together by my own. A day in a PC shop makes also fun...ok...the wife´s exploding when I get home, because I´ve could have "waste" the money for decoration or flowers...but that blast at least worth it :D DCS-Tutorial-Collection BlackSharkDen - Helicopter only Specs:: ASrock Z790 Pro RS; Intel i5-13600K @5,1Ghz; 64GB DDR5 RAM; RTX 3080 @10GB; Corsair RMX Serie 750; 2x SSD 850 EVO 1x860 EVO 500GB 1x nvme M.2 970 EVO 1TB; 1x nvme M.2 980 Pro 2TB+ 3 TB HDD Hardware: Oculus Rift S; Meta Quest 3; HOTAS Warthog; Logitech Rudder Pedals, K-51 Collective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lange_666 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 Same here, self build since first PC. Win11 Pro 64-bit, Ryzen 5800X3D, Corsair H115i, Gigabyte X570S UD, EVGA 3080Ti XC3 Ultra 12GB, 64 GB DDR4 G.Skill 3600. Monitors: LG 27GL850-B27 2560x1440 + Samsung SyncMaster 2443 1920x1200, HOTAS: Warthog with Virpil WarBRD base, MFG Crosswind combat pedals, TrackIR4, Rift-S. Personal Wish List: A6 Intruder, Vietnam theater, decent ATC module, better VR performance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceflier Posted October 11, 2012 Share Posted October 11, 2012 Yeh the sim runs but have you checked to see if both VGA cards are running in unison (i.e. equal load distribution)? You'll find they aren't. Really? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distiler Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 I read something like that about Shadows, that one should turn them on medium or high. Can someone confirm/deny this? Also I have everything on low and still my FPS suck. Is turning on Window mode also bad for FPS? I turned this on because of crashes in MP+Alt Tab. I don't have my specs in my head but it should be Phenom II 940 @3ghz,8GB Ram & ATI 4890 HD. Not sure right now. In the mission Trax Dogfight_V4.9b I went as low as 3fps.. Something is not right here. :) Sorry for engrish. That would be really interesting to know. I think in Arma turning shadows to high passes the load from the cpu to the gpu, making the game faster if the right comnbination of cpu/gpu. Perhaps with shadows, water and other settings happens the same? AMD Ryzen 1400 // 16 GB DDR4 2933Mhz // Nvidia 1060 6GB // W10 64bit // Microsoft Sidewinder Precision 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofer15 Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 That would be really interesting to know. I think in Arma turning shadows to high passes the load from the cpu to the gpu, making the game faster if the right comnbination of cpu/gpu. Perhaps with shadows, water and other settings happens the same? After quantifying carefully, I notice a ~1.5 FPS hit when upping Shadows from LO to either MED or HI (didn't matter which at that point). Cockpit shadows didn't really exacerbate that hit to a noticable degree...so I just now have Shadows HI with cockpit shadows enabled. Lose about 2 FPS but worth it, I think. Definitely did NOT gain. Water hits me hard for about 3 FPS (LO TO MED) and 4 FPS (LO to HI). Also, on another note, I've overclocked my CPU even further to 3.9GHz and noticed no change in FPS. Guess I'm just maxed out at the CPU...it's not even that old!! SPECS: Phenom II X4 965BE OC 3.9GHz on M4A79XTD EVO | XFX GeForce 970 GTX 4GB FTW+ (single monitor) | HOTAS Warthog | TrackIR 5 | CH Pro Pedals | G.SKILL Ripjaw 16GB DDR3 | Win 7 64-bit Home Premium | Corsair TX750W | WD Caviar Black 500GB @ 7200 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Rider Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Try turning CPU Core Parking to Off and (NVidia users) turning Thread Optimisation to Off as well Don't know if AMD/ATI VGA's have a similar (Thread Optimisation) function City Hall is easier to fight, than a boys' club - an observation :P "Resort is had to ridicule only when reason is against us." - Jefferson "Give a group of potheads a bunch of weed and nothing to smoke out of, and they'll quickly turn into engineers... its simply amazing." EVGA X99 FTW, EVGA GTX980Ti FTW, i7 5930K, 16Gb Corsair Dominator 2666Hz, Windows 7 Ultimate 64Bit, Intel 520 SSD x 2, Samsung PX2370 monitor and all the other toys - "I am a leaf on the wind, watch how I soar" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woofer15 Posted August 20, 2013 Author Share Posted August 20, 2013 Try turning CPU Core Parking to Off and (NVidia users) turning Thread Optimisation to Off as well Don't know if AMD/ATI VGA's have a similar (Thread Optimisation) function Hmmm -- doesn't seem too...but I'll take a closer look. Thanks! SPECS: Phenom II X4 965BE OC 3.9GHz on M4A79XTD EVO | XFX GeForce 970 GTX 4GB FTW+ (single monitor) | HOTAS Warthog | TrackIR 5 | CH Pro Pedals | G.SKILL Ripjaw 16GB DDR3 | Win 7 64-bit Home Premium | Corsair TX750W | WD Caviar Black 500GB @ 7200 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrysound Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 I have a 27" 2012 top spec iMac with 3.4/3.9ghz i7 and a Geforce 680MX running at 2560x1440. I bought Track Ir 5 a couple of day ago, previously for the last year (and on my old windows machine i7 2.8ghz/ATI 7850 2gig) had been using Freetrack. The switch alone to Track ir made my FPS go through the roof (60+) I generally roll on the high preset then turn down Scenes to medium and shadows to medium. NO AA, no MSAA or AA on reflections. No mirrors, No tree shadows and make sure the cockpit displays are set to 256 (cockpit displays I think take the most out of performance for me) Useless information for all of you i'm sure but it's a bit of a revilation, now my game finally looks like the promotional training videos on Youtube :) Smoooooth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newspeedy Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 the only thing i can say it's your ATI card, dcs don't like them... try using driver 13.6 for it. if you want to test that, just ask a friend if you can use his nvidia card for a day.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 13.8 Beta 2 is out. http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst13-8WINBetaDriver.aspx Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newspeedy Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 13.8 Beta 2 is out. http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalyst13-8WINBetaDriver.aspx then its better you role back, i got -10 fps on 13.8 and had to role back to 13.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkateZilla Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 13.8 Beta 2 is better, I'm still on 13.8 Beta 1 with no problems. Windows 10 Pro, Ryzen 2700X @ 4.6Ghz, 32GB DDR4-3200 GSkill (F4-3200C16D-16GTZR x2), ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate, XFX RX6800XT Merc 310 (RX-68XTALFD9) 3x ASUS VS248HP + Oculus HMD, Thrustmaster Warthog HOTAS + MFDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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