Awesome work Belsimtek & ED

[Mike Busutil]

I'm not sure of the details of which company did what for the Huey but I wanted to say thank you for all the hard work put into this sim module. I am impressed with the detail's, functionality and complex physics put into this. Awesome work guys... :Thumbup:

Edited January 16, 2015 by Mike Busutil

[Anatoli-Kagari9]

I'm not sure of the details of which company did what for the Huey but I wanted to say thank you for all the hard work put into this sim module. I am impressed with the detail's, functionality and complex physics put into this. Awesome work guys... : Thumbup:

 

++++++++++++++++++1

 

 

Yes! It' realli IMPRESSIVE! So so good that I even finally decided to turn fully into DCS World, up to the point of buying FC3 :-)

[johno1066]

+1 I agree, while i've only flown R22 and R44 helis in real-life, was very impressed with the dynamics and flying characteristics.

[BacchusZA]

Agreed, very well done guys. The Huey is the most fun I've had in sims in a long time, been an absolute blast, even if I have been pulling my little remaining hair out trying to control the damn thing :)

[Highwayman-Ed]

Yep +1 here, loving the handling characteristics, reminds me of my younger years :)

[EagleEye]

Agree!

(Pls do not change FM/controls(dampeners) to much(if when). It should remain a challenge to properly fly it.):)

[leafer]

Please satisfy my curiosity and tell me what's so good about it? Explain it like you would to a wide eyed nerd. Use words like hard, harder than the hardest thing you've tried. :D

[HiJack]

Graphically vise it is a masterpiece and great detail. It still is a beta so judging it at this time would not be fair.

[leafer]

Nice. Hopefully it an indication that we'll get some sort of cockpit damage modeling for all modules.

[EagleEye]

Yes, canopy visual damage looks great(sure far from cockpit damage like Clodo but...). Also that the barrels from the gatling guns will start to glowing red when fired continuous with the highest rate(don`t know if this was the case before 1.2.4 though).

[zaelu]

Please satisfy my curiosity and tell me what's so good about it? Explain it like you would to a wide eyed nerd. Use words like hard, harder than the hardest thing you've tried. :D

 

 

I also don't really get it. What is so amazing about it that just trashes A10C and Ka50? So far all comments about "OMG is so amazing" looked to me like a scene from "The fifth element".

 

Just because is so hard to fly it? It didn't seem to me like pilots in real videos were putting their life in danger every time they took off. I played last night with a friend... me the trusty Shark him the new "OMG Huey"... he made few holes into Novosibirsk airbase and then we chat about anything else but the Huey...

 

And he waited the Huey like hot bread and bought it in first 5 minutes I think.

 

What is so amazing guys?... please... tell us. From the fence (as a forum member said earlier) it doesn't look like much beside the uh! oh!. Besides rudimentary avionics, rudimentary weapons... that can't impress like those from A10C and Shark...

 

Let me give you an example:

 

I like DCS P51. I flew many years IL-2 (the game) and DCS P51 now has:

 

Beautiful 6DoF cockpit

Almost all systems modeled and working

Cool, a bit challenging, startup procedure

Challenging but not prohibiting take off procedure

Very very nice flight model where you feel (as much as you can feel with your eyes) that the plane has weight and inertia. I like the slow realistic roll rate that make the plane look like in the ww2 gun-cams and not like an Arcadia PS3 little game. This way escaping an opponent is not a piece of cake.

Very good engine management, you actually need to keep one of the eyes on the engine not to kill it. No more slam the throttle and forget about it.

 

Is DCS P51 the best module of ED? I really don't think so. My favorite module is Ka50 but I must admit that DCS A10C steals the price from it. Although the default view in it is a bit skewed. The A10C avionics is just way more complex and the flight model enough challenging... With all those SAS Channels and AP gimmicks I am not surprised that is quite easy to fly... but it flies true.

 

 

So... you see... something like this we the guys on the other side of the fence would like to read... not just infinite praises. I could bet that right now if I would buy Huey I would be very disappointed because of this huge hype that is building up here. And many others might feel the same.

 

This is just my 2 cents opinion... don't throw tomatoes at me... I mean... you can throw but let me close the canopy first. :P

Edited May 2, 2013 by zaelu

[Revelation]

I also don't really get it. What is so amazing about it that just trashes A10C and Ka50? So far all comments about "OMG is so amazing" looked to me like a scene from "The fifth element".

 

I don't think anyone says it trashes any other module. Most people are impressed with the realistic flight model of the Huey. It takes a lot more work to get it to fly "right" than the BS or A-10, some people like the challenge it brings.

 

Just because is so hard to fly it? It didn't seem to me like pilots in real videos were putting their life in danger every time they took off. I played last night with a friend... me the trusty Shark him the new "OMG Huey"... he made few holes into Novosibirsk airbase and then we chat about anything else but the Huey...

 

It is a challenge to fly, yes, but one can learn to master this helo. If you look at videos of real Huey takeoffs you will notice the behavior that is displayed when trying to fly the sim Huey. In reality every pilot in every AC is putting their lives in danger every time they strap in. Pilots in real life also have years of experience/training. They don't just get strapped into a Huey on day 1 anymore and start flying like a pro. Even to this day pilots start in basic AC to learn the basics of controlled flight and go on from there.

 

What is so amazing guys?... please... tell us. From the fence (as a forum member said earlier) it doesn't look like much beside the uh! oh!. Besides rudimentary avionics, rudimentary weapons... that can't impress like those from A10C and Shark...

Please see above, also look at the Huey forums, there are a few real life Helicopter pilots that are praising the realistic flight model of the Huey.

 

Let me give you an example:

 

I like DCS P51. I flew many years IL-2 (the game) and DCS P51 now has:

 

Beautiful 6DoF cockpit

Almost all systems modeled and working

Cool, a bit challenging, startup procedure

Challenging but not prohibiting take off procedure

Very very nice flight model where you feel (as much as you can feel with your eyes) that the plane has weight and inertia. I like the slow realistic roll rate that make the plane look like in the ww2 gun-cams and not like an Arcadia PS3 little game. This way escaping an opponent is not a piece of cake.

Very good engine management, you actually need to keep one of the eyes on the engine not to kill it. No more slam the throttle and forget about it.

 

All of what you mentioned holds true for the Huey. So how can you praise the Mustang and chastise the Huey? I have all the modules and I enjoy each of them in their own right. A-10C gets most of my attention, but I still enjoy the others.

 

When it comes to the Huey, I'm currently loving the challenge of being able to fly the bird. It is much more challenging than the KA-50 - by a long shot. Things I could do effortlessly in the BS require my full attention in the Huey.

 

P.S. not every module will be a sophisticated, hi-tech, killing machine. In fact I can't wait for enough modules/terrain to be released to simulate a Vietnam era war.

Edited May 2, 2013 by Revelation

[Robert1983NL]

The Huey is so amazing because it's the Huey.

[Vlerkies]

 

When it comes to the Huey, I'm currently loving the challenge of being able to fly the bird. It is much more challenging than the KA-50 - by a long shot. Things I could do effortlessly in the BS require my full attention in the Huey.

 

 

+100!

It's easy to fly when your up there, the transitions though are quite challenging and the sense of accomplishment on getting it right after many many attempts is well worth it.

 

I havent so much as even dared to even consider flying missions or anything like that yet. Just practicing and practicing the very basics and trying to understand the physics of it all.

 

Slowly getting used to it, flights are getting smoother each time and have an idea of what to look at, monitor and when during things like transition to landings.

The Huey gives you enough warning and if you recognise the signs your on your way. If you don't she bites hard and boom.

 

I have all the DCS modules.

I love my A-10, the Hog is top class, and the Huey is top of its class from a helo perspective. But hey thats just my opinion.

[tintifaxl]

It's the sound, definately the sound of the rotor blades whopping through the air. :D

[159th_Viper]

It's a shiny new toy. The novelty will wear off, that's a given. What is important to recognise is that the Huey introduces a whole new dimension to gameplay/fills a void that has to date been lacking. Recognise that and the novelty might wear off, but the appreciation and usefulness never will.

 

As regards the Flight Dynamics, even in this Beta stage, it's a work of art.

[Lucas_From_Hell]

I'm also "outside The Wall" but my guess is that, for the same reasons you rave about the 'Stang, those lads and lassies are going bonkers because of the Huey.

 

It can be called the P-51 of helicopters if you will, it's way too iconic. While the jet crew grew up on the F-14 scenes on TOPGUN, the rotary crew had the UH-1 scenes in Apocalypse Now! (I haven't even touched the Huey, but I think we need a "Loudspeaker" added to the loadout so pilots can blast some music over the battlefield :D). We're talking about a helo that's been the backbone of nearly any Western army you name in the world for the past 50+ years.

 

Obviously, it isn't for everyone - while some people were hardly impressed by a 1940's piston-engined fighter, some folks don't really understand an utility helicopter that doesn't even carry countermeasures. But when you put those two together, things really work out, you get the fighter jocks cleaning the area, the muddy jet gang makes chews on enemy lines without having to worry about missiles raining on them, Ka-50s take out whatever they can find and the utility helicopter... You see, that's the beauty of it.

 

One would think that an utility helicopter is far from cool since it isn't really dedicated even vaguely to any task but it's rather the opposite - those guys can do ANYTHING they want. Need CSAR? You got it. MEDEVC? Yes sir. Need troop insertion? You got it. Need some strafing? Sure, right away. Recon? Easy. Spotting targets? Yup, got it. Coordinating friendly units? As you wish.

 

The Ka-50s deployment in Chechnya came with a Ka-29. The Helix would fly recce and designate targets for a pair of Ka-50 flying with it.

 

If the Huey doesn't appeal to you, just leave the fanboys and girls at it and go make sure the enemy leaves them alone too :D

[zaelu]

All of what you mentioned holds true for the Huey. So how can you praise the Mustang and chastise the Huey?

 

I'm really not... I was just expressing my fears of disappointment after so much praising without any details and there were people here that said that it bests Ka50 and A10C because they said it's the best DCS module. And that was after they barely took off with it. How can someone "chastise" DCS Ka50 and DCS A10C after just attempting some take offs with Huey? That's why I tend to "invalidate" those opinions and then... I'm not left with much more credible info about Huey module.

 

Look above... another "cyclic" definition that cannot help the cause... imho.

 

The Huey is so amazing because it's the Huey.

 

ok...

[Revelation]

I'm really not... I was just expressing my fears of disappointment after so much praising without any details and there were people here that said that it bests Ka50 and A10C because they said it's the best DCS module.

So you are upset that people can't put their thoughts/experiences into easy to understand words with detailed descriptions? Give it time, the same thing happened with the Mustang and every other DCS AC.

 

And that was after they barely took off with it. How can someone "chastise" DCS Ka50 and DCS A10C after just attempting some take offs with Huey?

Attempting some takeoffs, that's right attempting... It takes time to learn how to fly this bird properly. Even a member on this board who is a real-life helicopter pilot still took roughly an hour to get comfortable with the Huey. How can you expect your buddy to fly without issue after a couple of takeoffs?

 

Again, point out how someone is chastising the KA-50 or A-10? I think you are making it up and you are wanting someone to give you a reason to buy the module. I say, don't buy it - you're going to be miserable trying to learn how to fly the bird instead of flying a "game" and blowing stuff up....

 

That's why I tend to "invalidate" those opinions and then... I'm not left with much more credible info about Huey module.

 

You invalidate opinions? Opinions are personal experiences you cannot invalidate someone's opinion because they didn't get enough detail... There are multiple threads and videos showing you what the Huey is. The developer spends time in their own subforum, you can always ask the dev, what more credible info do you want?

 

Look above... another "cyclic" definition that cannot help the cause... imho.

 

ok...

 

Wow, really? BIG ****ING DEAL... Who cares? Obviously you are the only one...

[Vlerkies]

Some people like red cars, other blue.

I like my workhorse Huey more than my Shark but that just me, some other people may think differently.

For me it feels really great flying it. I know its new, but the novelty won't wear off for me, I will fly this thing forever.

[HuggyBear]

I drive a 70s muscle car.

 

It has no traction control, power steering, or anti-skid brakes.

 

It only has an AM radio and a heater that takes 10 minutes to warm up.

 

But it's made of metal, sounds like a growling bear and looks the way a car is supposed to look.

 

It feels right.

 

I think the Huey feels the same.

 

- Bear

[Lucas_From_Hell]

Sorry to be that guy, but guys, please tone it down a little bit, all are entitled to opinions but once the opinions start being about how you don't give a rat's ass about the other's opinion and/or about ones ma', it stop being fun and moderators jump in.

 

No need to be hostile here, regardless of how much each disagree with the other's opinions.

[Robert1983NL]

Great example Huggybear! The Huey is just very sexy!

[zaelu]

You invalidate opinions? Opinions are personal experiences you cannot invalidate someone's opinion because they didn't get enough detail...

 

 

 

Wow, really? BIG ****ING DEAL... Who cares? Obviously you are the only one...

 

Looks like you did invalidate my opinion isn't it? :smilewink: Now, I don't speak natively english but in my language opinions ("opinii" in romanian) and experiences ("experiente" in romanian) are two quite different in meaning words.

 

I think you didn't understood my point. Maybe it is the language... who knows. Chill, have a beer and let's just enjoy flying this sim! OK?

 

 

@HuggyBear

 

I think the Warthog is not pleased by your insinuation :lol: He might say: "What do you mean I am not made in 70s? I am exactly from 70s and I am made of metal and I might have also an UHF radio and a antiskid thingie but I still rock!"

Edited May 2, 2013 by zaelu

[Rotorhead]

I also don't really get it. What is so amazing about it that just trashes A10C and Ka50?

 

It does not trash anything. It's not better or worse than the other modules. But... it's different.

 

Many people here might start to hate me, but I have to admit that I don't like UH-1 much. It's just ugly to me. Unlike many others, I have no personal experience with this type, and, with few rare exceptions, I find the western hardware rather boring. Ka-50 will be my only love forever, unless someone models a Ka-52 for DCS (well, or at least a Hind).

 

So, you may wonder why I bought it as soon as it came out, when I don't even like this helo. It's easy. Because it has something that no other of current DCS modules can offer. First, and, at this moment, only conventional helicopter for DCS, that speaks for itself. Huey is the pure essence of rotary flight. No stabilizers, no autopilots, no nothing. Just collective, cyclic and pedals. And one hell of a pilot to make it work.

 

And that's why I like it so much. The challenge of learning new skill. I always had a huge respect for real helicopter pilots, and now, when I have chance to try out how hard it really is, I respect them even more.

 

In the last three days, I have crashed my Huey countless times, and I will crash it a lot in the future. But I can clearly see my progress. Yesterday, I wasn't able to hold hover at all. Today, I still over-correct a lot, but can at least hold her around one place. It won't be easy to get decent at it but one day, I will be hopefully able to say: "Well, maybe I can't fly a real helicopter, but at least, I am close to it." And that makes me feel kinda good... :happy: