[REPORTED] Server Crashes Merged

[Pman]

So you installed a game developed for Windows 7 on a Server OS and it crashes? ...and not just a 2008R2, but the new Server 2012, with Windows8 UI / new program API and compatibility mode for windows7. No further comments. :huh:

 

funny that it didnt crash in 1.2.4 DCS doesnt work in server 2008, but has always been fine in server 2012

 

and unless you have a better suggestion for how to host the busiest server in DCS I am all ears.....

[shagrat]

funny that it didnt crash in 1.2.4 DCS doesnt work in server 2008, but has always been fine in server 2012

 

and unless you have a better suggestion for how to host the busiest server in DCS I am all ears.....

Did you try running it on Windows 7 ? The point is, people complain DCS crash and in the end they use a OS that is likely to be different than the environment the product was developed for.

 

Recommended system requirements: Operating system 64-bit: Windows Vista and 7

 

Let's say most likely any professional software company would simply tell you "This is an unsupported, installation. Can you reproduce the error in a supported setup? If not, it is your non standard setup which causes the problem. So good luck!"

I know the ED guys are dedicated and will not go for that approach, but it is a bit unfair having people try to reproduce a crash or find root causes and miss to tell them you are using a total different Operating System?

 

I don't want to be offensive or trolling here. Just my personal oppinion.

 

I really hope they get DCS World stable and may be a dedicated server that may even run the environment under Linux... but I guess that is a bit much to hope for.:thumbup:

 

Edit: ...and may be Microsoft had a security patch rolled out lately that broke something or it may be that Server 2012 is running internal service / API connections on the IPv6 Stack now, may even the new Firewall or Security essentials do something weird, because they are optimized for an Enterprise Server and not a Windows Gaming PC. Hundreds of new possibilities for ED to check on in the next years.

Edited September 14, 2013 by shagrat

[Frostie]

Did you try running it on Windows 7 ? The point is, people complain DCS crash and in the end they use a OS that is likely to be different than the environment the product was developed for.

It's the DCS software which is the issue not the operating system, our server runs on Win7-64 and crashes just the same as every other server that has more than 5 or more clients.

I've run my own system as a server with Win7-64 and with all the modules installed and it still crashes just as regular and just the same.

I've run a server with just FC3 module only and it still crashes no different.

 

Just about every host on DCS multiplayer that hosts popular servers are all making the same post with the same problem in this thread, I don't think that is a sign that it is their own systems being at fault, do you.

[ENO]

Where is the ping timeout setting?

 

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=97861&page=2

 

 

This thread describes it in a bit more detail. I'm not promising anything as its more of a multiplayer disconnect issue moreso than a "crash" per se...

 

It is a global setting so just put it outside of any { } as described in the thread.

 

The only difference is now network.cfg is in the saved games / dcs / config folder- not in scripts / net etc.

Edited September 14, 2013 by ENO

[Pman]

It's the DCS software which is the issue not the operating system, our server runs on Win7-64 and crashes just the same as every other server that has more than 5 or more clients.

I've run my own system as a server with Win7-64 and with all the modules installed and it still crashes just as regular and just the same.

I've run a server with just FC3 module only and it still crashes no different.

 

Just about every host on DCS multiplayer that hosts popular servers are all making the same post with the same problem in this thread, I don't think that is a sign that it is their own systems being at fault, do you.

 

Not too mention that 4 of the 3rd party Dev's use server versions of windows for making their modules...

 

There is nothing wrong with the OS, its just the sim having issues that need attending too.

 

P.s There is a dedi hosting bit of kit coming with edge but thats still a year away

[ENO]

Okay... well- ball dropped again here.

 

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8MeQLQ7pOpjMFFHdjZqb1E5Sk0/edit?usp=sharing

 

Again, I've included the tacview file of the mission as well as some SLMOD files in the event they help.

 

The tacview file is quite large even zipped (40 megs or so)... so I've had to gdrive it.

 

Hope this helps.

[Merlin-27]

For what it's worth,

I run my server with a vanilla install of Windows 7 and 16 Gb RAM. While on 1.2.6 it was crashing on average about once every 2 hours. Yesterday, for a dogfight event I reverted to 1.2.5 at around 2:30pm EST. 18 hours later it is still up and running. I hate going backwards, but it's just very interesting.

[shagrat]

(...) I don't think that is a sign that it is their own systems being at fault, do you.

Agreed, and no offense meant. I just wanted to point out, that a different especially new OS might not be the best platform to analyse the root cause. It is for the above mentioned reasons diffcult to track down or reproduce an issue on a different OS.

Even if you can reproduce a crash on Windows 7 it might be a totally different reason for it compared to Windows Server 2012.

 

I do not doubt the issue, there are crashes, definitely.

 

I just think it as a fair and important info for the devs, that you run it on a totally different OS.

[Cougar]

I just would like to apologize for crashing a couple of your servers today guys!!!

[Pman]

hehe, nothing we arent already used to lol

 

Pman

[badger66]

Im utterly cheesed off with these crash's ..... 1 foot forward , 2 feet back , absolutly no excuse imo . Im just tired of it all , its taking its toll on me .

[ENO]

I just would like to apologize for crashing a couple of your servers today guys!!!

 

Just went and checked my dcs.old and saw we were one of them. Think you're onto something?

 

I'm on my iPad right not but I will get you the log when I'm on a real comp.

[NineLine]

Cougar has been hard at it...

[NineLine]

I just would like to apologize for crashing a couple of your servers today guys!!!

 

Me too, I just took one down myself, but I blame Cougar in this instance :D ... the good news is we are getting closer thanks to Cougar's hard work...

[Pman]

It is appreciated :)

 

Nice to know you have some theories :)

 

Pman

[Frostie]

It's good to hear that some progress is being made, thanks guys.

The only part of DCS I partake in anymore is starting the server every 3 hours or so, I haven't flown or built a mission for ages nor feel motivated to do so.

 

A year of servers crashing daily/hourly can take its toll, it's hard to believe it would have taken this long had ED been running dedicated servers. Seems keeping multiplayer alive has been a tough unrewarding slog for many not associated with ED.

[ENO]

It's been some journey- that's for sure.

 

 

Thanks for staying on it guys-

[TimeKilla]

I just would like to apologize for crashing a couple of your servers today guys!!!

 

Great suggests you know how to replicate a crash just hope theres not more factors and you guys can find them. :)

 

great work

[159th_Falcon]

No idea if its still of use. But here's some crash files of our server last crash.

 

There were a couple .dll files involved i didn't see before, hence i'm posting them. See attachment.

1.2.6 crash 4.zip

[ENO]

Guess my zweiblau.dll repair didn't work- ah well... was good without a crash for 4 days...

 

If you think the tacview file will help let me know and I'll G drive it.

crash 09.18.13.zip

[TimeKilla]

Guess my zweiblau.dll repair didn't work- ah well... was good without a crash for 4 days...

 

If you think the tacview file will help let me know and I'll G drive it.

 

No crash for four days thats good!

[ENO]

Shouldn't have said anything...

 

Effects.dll crash last night in my "wartweasle" mission- I'm not sure what exploded... but whatever it was crashed the mission on the server.

crash 091913.zip

[Bandit.]

here is a link with the crash logs of the s77th dedicated server hope this helps.

 

i posted it on another thread so i cant re upload them

 

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1880084&postcount=4

[Shaman]

It's good to hear that some progress is being made, thanks guys.

The only part of DCS I partake in anymore is starting the server every 3 hours or so, I haven't flown or built a mission for ages nor feel motivated to do so.

 

A year of servers crashing daily/hourly can take its toll, it's hard to believe it would have taken this long had ED been running dedicated servers. Seems keeping multiplayer alive has been a tough unrewarding slog for many not associated with ED.

 

ED, current multiplayer situation is unspeakable, simply feels ruined. There is no motivation to connect and train anymore, forget bigger events. :thumbdown:

 

I am bored, flying patterns and offline campaigns. :bored: Waiting for a year for mp to be playable again.

 

-Hope dies last-

 

Edited September 20, 2013 by Shaman

[Breakshot]

+1

 

Indeed it is the biggest undermining factor of the current state of DCS MP, in summary = broken.

 

Seriously, how does the MP community expect to survive if we cant even fly with less than 20 people on the server without constant (unexplained) server crashes every 1 hour and crazy stutter/lag fests.... with each patch the stability is getting worse and worse.... sigh. FC2 is like a dream compared to this (and that wasnt that stable either).

 

I dont know about many, but the 51st PVO as a squad lives primarily for MP events, and if this continues we will simply take our server offline as the motivation for keeping it running is extremely low ATM. There are costs associated here as well, which at this moment do not justify keeping a broken dedi server online...

 

The only reason it even runs is due to guys like Frostie, who for the past year had been dedicated in rebooting the server every-time it crashes... but people do have lives!

 

Just out thoughts as a squad.