DCS: Spitfire Mk LF IXc Discussion

[DD_Fenrir]

Cheers for that info, F-4B. I have the "newer" control box for the 1133, but was never sure why it had replaced the 9D.

 

From a purely personal perspective, and having tried it out in my 'pit, I have to question that rationale for deletion of the headrest. One's view is obscured by the dirty-great slab of armour plate and frame 12 -> aftwards; but unless one has eyes in a funny place, a ~6" pad at the rear of one's skull has no negative effects upon either head-movement or peripheral vision.

 

I wonder if the ear phones of a type-c flying helmet might bump into the headrest and get caught, restricting, albeit temporarily, the pilots head movement. If so, nuisance value would probably see it removed.

[Cripple]

I wonder if if the ear phones a type-c flying helmet might bump into it a headrest and get caught, restricting, albeit temporarily, the pilots head movement. Nuisance value would probably see it removed.

 

Ahhhhhhhh! Now that makes sense. :) Reasonable hypothesis to work from.

 

Now, who'd like to crowd-fund my purchase of a type-c helmet for... testing purposes? :music_whistling:

[NightRush]

An interesting anecdote on modern day flying Spitfires and the IFF antenna, the reason you dont see many Spitfires flying with them is its nearly impossible to find one!

 

The company I worked for paid over 10k for an original IFF Antenna for the rebuild I worked on. Yup just for a non functioning Antenna.

 

The reason they are so expensive and hard to find, is aircraft landing with a low wing or the ground is uneven; Antenna digs into the ground, or just gets ground away by the runway! They really dont last too long out there!

[Friedrich-4B]

Cheers for that info, F-4B. I have the "newer" control box for the 1133, but was never sure why it had replaced the 9D.

 

From a purely personal perspective, and having tried it out in my 'pit, I have to question that rationale for deletion of the headrest. One's view is obscured by the dirty-great slab of armour plate and frame 12 -> aftwards; but unless one has eyes in a funny place, a ~6" pad at the rear of one's skull has no negative effects upon either head-movement or peripheral vision.

 

The headrest probably won't be a problem if your head isn't being subjected to positive and negative g while you're trying to look to the rear and/or down during combat...mind you, the 'rest was probably missed by pilots who bounced their heads off the armour plate. :wacko:

 

Anyway, here's a list of Spitfire modifications and the dates on which they were introduced: Mods 385, 662 and 801 describe the change-over to the T.R.1143, deletion of the headrest and introduction of the IFF Mk III with rod aerial. (Morgan & Shacklady, page 171).

 

[BerryMORE]

Yup. It's fairly easy to acquire. The ebay bundles of Spitfire manuals on a CD usually contain it.

Could you provide me some links to CD with manuals on ebay? Pleeease:helpsmilie:

And anybody have this one: A.P. 1590 S&U Vol 1? I`m seen the picture from this manual in this discussion.

Edited February 4, 2016 by BerryMORE

[Friedrich-4B]

Could you provide me some links to CD with manuals on ebay? Pleeease:helpsmilie:

And anybody have this one: A.P. 1590 S&U Vol 1? I`m seen the picture from this manual in this discussion.

 

Better still, these manuals are free, albeit with a small membership fee:

 

http://www.avialogs.com/en/aircraft/avialogs/aircraft-manuals-and-documents.html

 

Using the term flight manuals on cd produces (this outfit also sells via EBay):

 

http://www.flight-manuals.com/spitfire.html

 

while A.P. 1590 S&U Vol 1 can be found here:

 

http://www.flight-manuals.com/ap1590psu-vol1.html

 

and in Avialogs. Be aware, however that the pages on this Merlin 66 67 70 71 76 77 85 manual have been scrambled - when I have some spare time I'm going to get them back into their right order.

Edited February 4, 2016 by Friedrich-4/B

[BerryMORE]

Thank you very much!

[NineLine]

[Cripple]

 

 

Is this the proposed actual music? As someone who listens to 40s radio I find it a bit "jangly" and actually rather grating...

[Python]

I'll be honest, I love BTD's work, but I'm not feeling this one at all. Doesn't seem very fitting for such a graceful machine. Maybe it will grow on me though in time.

[Abburo]

Me not like it ! :)

[fastfreddie]

How close are we getting Sith on the release? I want my P-47 ...

[westr]

Sounds a bit mario bros for me :)

[Friedrich-4B]

Is this the proposed actual music? As someone who listens to 40s radio I find it a bit "jangly" and actually rather grating...

 

That's a bit harsh; this Edmond Hall and His Quartet recording is from July 1944 and embodies a similar slightly jangly but lively optimism to the theme for the Spitfire IX. :smilewink:

 

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(I don't know if Ed's budget stretches to hiring a jazz quartet for their soundtrack)

Edited February 9, 2016 by Friedrich-4/B
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[RoflSeal]

But I would argue something more like the Battle of Britain theme fits the Spitfire far more

 

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[Friedrich-4B]

But I would argue something more like the Battle of Britain theme fits the Spitfire far more

 

 

*Cough!* Surely the B of B theme is more suited to the Spitfire I? (fast exit, stage left before :tomato:)

[lmp]

But I would argue something more like the Battle of Britain theme fits the Spitfire far more

 

 

I like this idea a lot.

[NeilWillis]

I'd say the music needs to be softened down a little to make it sound like swing should.

 

But as long as it is in keeping with the period, and not something written long after the war as a theme tune for a war film, then it gets my vote.

[Reflected]

Oh boy, I can`t wait for this one. The release date should be this summer, correct?

 

Is there a way to preorder at a lower price?

 

I just heard some rumors that it will have a clipped wing?! Please tell me it ain`t true...

Edited February 9, 2016 by Reflected

[Foul Ole Ron]

We're not sure what the wing type will be. We've seen screenshots with both clipped and standard wings. It's possible that we could get both. The pre-order price is usually discounted.

[Cripple]

Hmmm, to me Jazz like that tends to evoke a more American theme (if that makes sense?). It is also very... civilian, and to my ears *too* upbeat for aircraft that was rushed in a stop-gap (albeit one that performed wonderfully). More snare-drum? And make the brass sound rather less... raw?

 

Alternatively there is a more modern take of the classic aircraft. It might not be to everyone's taste, but it is by British musicians and certainly gets the ol' blood pumping! :P

 

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[klem]

Well, there's the obvious - released 1942 along with the MkIX:

 

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and no, 'another place' doesn't have sole claim on the title ;)

 

of course if it had been the Mustang:

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[NineLine]

Oh boy, I can`t wait for this one. The release date should be this summer, correct?

 

Is there a way to preorder at a lower price?

 

I just heard some rumors that it will have a clipped wing?! Please tell me it ain`t true...

 

No timeline on release yet, currently, it sounds like it will have the full wing, and possibly, maybe, not for sure, a clipped wing option.

[VIKBELL]

+1 for the White cliffs for Dover..:)

[Friedrich-4B]

Just for interest, here's a 1940s vintage, Rolls-Royce film about manufacturing the Merlin:

 

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