DCS: P-47D-30 Discussion

[Weta43]

It’ll be interesting to see what the turbo-lag is like...

[grafspee]

It’ll be interesting to see what the turbo-lag is like...

 

It is a big turbo + exhaust duct is long as plane, so lag will be quite big, but this engine isn't build for quick response, i don't think so that this will get in way of flying this thing

Edited December 25, 2019 by grafspee

[Snapage]

Q1 of 2020 starts in six days..... so six days until P47 is released? :lol:

[ctguy1955]

"P-47 had a higher service ceiling than any other American fighter"

 

If they can fly higher then the mustang, then why does the P51 get all the

glory in 45 with protecting bombers ? More importantly, Did they put extra tanks

on the P47 and use them to escort bombers ?

 

Thanks for Your answer. I was not going to purchase the P47 as that

was flown during Pearl Harbor and the modernization of planes and jets

came so quickly after 45.

[Snapage]

"P-47 had a higher service ceiling than any other American fighter"

 

If they can fly higher then the mustang, then why does the P51 get all the

glory in 45 with protecting bombers ? More importantly, Did they put extra tanks

on the P47 and use them to escort bombers ?

 

Thanks for Your answer. I was not going to purchase the P47 as that

was flown during Pearl Harbor and the modernization of planes and jets

came so quickly after 45.

 

The radial engine the P47D has eats a lot of fuel. The P51D was a flying fuel tank. It just did not have the range the P51D had.

[grafspee]

Q1 of 2020 starts in six days..... so six days until P47 is released? :lol:

 

I would hope so, but hardly possible :P Day before Q1 ending is more likely.

[msalama]

So which exact subtype are they modelling, the D-15? And that one's still a razorback, isn't it?

[Yo-Yo]

It is a big turbo + exhaust duct is long as plane, so lag will be quite big, but this engine isn't build for quick response, i don't think so that this will get in way of flying this thing

 

Comparative to the speed of sound in the gas?

[grafspee]

Comparative to the speed of sound in the gas?

 

Comparative to situation where turbo would be installed as close as possible to engine not 5 meters away.

Edited December 27, 2019 by grafspee

[Bozon]

So which exact subtype are they modelling, the D-15? And that one's still a razorback, isn't it?

 

They were razorbacks up to D-23. D-25 is the 1st one with bubble canopy. I don’t remember what happened to D-24.

 

D-15 IIRC came off the production line with water injection as standard. Possibly the paddle blade prop too - they sure had them in the field, but I’m not sure about the exact time that became the factory standard.

[grafspee]

I think it will be D-30 as the title says

[Flanker35M]

S!

 

Will be an interesting plane to learn :) Saw a P47D in Hendon and it is HUGE :D

[msalama]

I think it will be D-30 as the title says

 

Well DUH! Stopped reading at "7" it seems :doh:

[Yo-Yo]

Comparative to situation where turbo would be installed as close as possible to engine not 5 meters away.

 

Like in car engines? That have turbo lag too...

[grafspee]

Like in car engines? That have turbo lag too...

 

Cars engines don't fit here i think, different load factors etc.

I would compare it to maybe engines from diesel locomotives. When you switch from partial power to full power it needs couple of seconds to reach that power.

[Yo-Yo]

Cars engines don't fit here i think, different load factors etc.

I would compare it to maybe engines from diesel locomotives. When you switch from partial power to full power it needs couple of seconds to reach that power.

 

Because of long pipes? ;)

[Lieuie]

Because of long pipes? ;)

 

That would be one of the reasons. Also I would assume that the turbocharger would have a rather large moment of inertia due to its size and weight (compared to an automotive application).

 

However that's not as much of a problem in airplanes as it is in cars since you don't move the throttle as much as you do in a car (same thing with locomotives). A great illustration of that is that jet powered cars never gained much traction.

[grafspee]

That would be one of the reasons. Also I would assume that the turbocharger would have a rather large moment of inertia due to its size and weight (compared to an automotive application).

 

However that's not as much of a problem in airplanes as it is in cars since you don't move the throttle as much as you do in a car (same thing with locomotives). A great illustration of that is that jet powered cars never gained much traction.

 

Yes all would account for turbo response,

and even if pilot move throttle a lot engine is on rpm thanks to constant speed prop, so response time will be reduced.

This is part where manual says hold brakes because turbocharger need time to spin up for desire MP

This one is from p-38 manual. Im not sure if p-47 can use turbocharger for take off

Turbocharger wont give instant MP like supercharger and mounting turbine quite far from engine wont help it.

Edited December 28, 2019 by grafspee

[Chaz]

Already putting in a request for this skin. From the Boeing Museum of Flight.

 

[Brigg]

Yeah that's a good one

[Brigg]

https://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=4160206&postcount=232

omg omg omg :thumbup:

[Barrett_g]

I hope they do a 1940’s version of the Mariana Islands. In the theater P-47 were loaded onto carriers by crane and shipped out to the islands. They were launched from the carriers and landed under gunfire on the newly rebuilt runway there. They performed almost none stop CAS for the Marines while they overtook the rest of the island. From there they bombed Tinian and helped the Marines push through that island as well.

 

Unfortunately it’s hard to find much info on the P-47’s role in all this because this part of history is over shadowed by the Hellcats and their “Marianas Turkeyshoot,” which was happening north of the island while the P-47’s were dropping napalm on the enemy.

[twistking]

I hope they do a 1940’s version of the Mariana Islands. In the theater P-47 were loaded onto carriers by crane and shipped out to the islands. They were launched from the carriers and landed under gunfire on the newly rebuilt runway there. They performed almost none stop CAS for the Marines while they overtook the rest of the island. From there they bombed Tinian and helped the Marines push through that island as well.

 

Unfortunately it’s hard to find much info on the P-47’s role in all this because this part of history is over shadowed by the Hellcats and their “Marianas Turkeyshoot,” which was happening north of the island while the P-47’s were dropping napalm on the enemy.

what version of the p-47 flew in the pacific theatre? i couldn't find any solid info, but i assume that our bubble canopy 47 will be relatively similar to whatever operated in the marianas. p-47N escorting bomber raids on mainland japan should be quite a bit later, if i'm not mistaken...

[msalama]

assume that our bubble canopy 47 will be relatively similar

 

Not sure, but I think it was an earlier version, at least somewhat. Not sure though.

Edited January 4, 2020 by msalama

[Art-J]

When 318th FG was transported to Saipan to provide support for the rest of the Marianas campaign, they flew razorback -Ds, so our upcoming bubbletop doesn't fit that scenario. They later switched to -Ns.

 

As far as later campaigns are concerned, bubbletop -Ds flew over Philippines and Burma.