Dev Update #22

[SimFreak]

WW2 update #22

 

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/508681281/dcs-wwii-europe-1944/posts/686163

Good morning everyone,

 

Let's look at a couple of cockpits today.

 

First, here's the much more complete P-47 cockpit. Not in-engine yet, but getting there.

 

 

And then, we're very proud to show a very early work-in-progress of the pinnacle of our kickstarter campaign, the cockpit for the flyable Me.262!

 

 

[Raven68]

Very nice progress! Looks like the P-47 is almost ready to be taken out of the oven! :thumbup:

 

Thanks for creating the thread SimFreak. :thumbup:

[SimFreak]

Very nice progress! Looks like the P-47 is almost ready to be taken out of the oven! :thumbup:

 

Thanks for creating the thread SimFreak. :thumbup:

 

Yeah, but I see moderator has something else in mind. Why wouldn't you want own thread for dev update?

 

People do not like checking huge thread for new update....this is easy to see.

[Raven68]

Yeah, but I see moderator has something else in mind. Why wouldn't you want own thread for dev update?

 

People do not like checking huge thread for new update....this is easy to see.

 

AGREED!!

[Barrett_g]

The Kickstarter said the P-47 was going to be a block 28.... Then one of the updates said it was going to be a block 30.... With these pit pics it looks like its a confirmed P-47D-30.... Check out the compressibility recovery flap switch on the left side!

[leafer]

Oohh I love wireframe. I wish ED would post models with their wireframe so we can see how the pro work their topology.

[Vlerkies]

All coming along nicely

 

:thumbup:

[Fifi]

OMG!!!! :surprise::surprise:

 

This P47 cockpit is trully stunning!! Looks so realistic!

Big thumbs up devs! :thumbup:

 

(on side note, would be great if our P51 could be upgraded with those amazing gauges reflections!)

[Pandacat]

Awesome, jug is one of my favorites. Btw, is jug gonna be modelled as 1 trigger controlling all 8guns or is it gonna be like that in IL-2-1946 where main trigger controls outter 4guns and secondary trigger controls inner 4 guns?

[NineLine]

Awesome, jug is one of my favorites. Btw, is jug gonna be modelled as 1 trigger controlling all 8guns or is it gonna be like that in IL-2-1946 where main trigger controls outter 4guns and secondary trigger controls inner 4 guns?

 

 

How was it in real life? That is how it will be :)

[Barrett_g]

Should be one trigger controls all 8 guns.

[horseback]

Should be one trigger controls all 8 guns.

 

But the pilot will be able to turn off a pair or two of his guns for 'getting home insurance', just like the real thing. Once his main battery has exhausted its ammo supply, he can switch the remaining guns' breaker back on and still be able to defend himself.

 

cheers

 

horseback

[Barrett_g]

But the pilot will be able to turn off a pair or two of his guns for 'getting home insurance', just like the real thing. Once his main battery has exhausted its ammo supply, he can switch the remaining guns' breaker back on and still be able to defend himself.

 

cheers

 

horseback

 

Never read such a thing! So six guns were on one circuit breaker while the last two were on another?

 

I have read instances where at a certain number of rounds, tracer rounds were loaded.... Once the pilot started seeing tracer rounds from his aircraft he knew he had "x" amount of rounds left.

 

Very interesting to hear of the circuit breaker... Makes sense. Where did you hear it? I'd like to read more!

[SlipBall]

wow the jug looks beautiful !

[Ganesh]

Yeah!!! Good progress and fine quality all in all

I am excited about theSchwalbe Pit :)

[horseback]

Never read such a thing! So six guns were on one circuit breaker while the last two were on another?

 

I have read instances where at a certain number of rounds, tracer rounds were loaded.... Once the pilot started seeing tracer rounds from his aircraft he knew he had "x" amount of rounds left.

 

Very interesting to hear of the circuit breaker... Makes sense. Where did you hear it? I'd like to read more!

On the contrary, from my reading of various pilot memoirs, each pair of guns had its own circuit breaker and/or charger, I believe (of course, US pilots and groundcrews in the 8th AF were notorious for improvisations). You would simply turn off the desired breaker(s) or leave a given pair of guns uncharged until you needed them. Some units or individual pilots had the outer pair of guns removed early on, but the lesser weight apparently did not affect performance appreciably.

 

I've read about the tracer round method myself, but I also read that the LW caught on to its meaning fairly early in the game, so that it was generally discontinued, because some of them were less than chivalrous when they realized that their opponent was out of or almost out of ammunition...

 

Like the P-38, the P-47 was conceived primarily as a bomber killer first and a fighter killer second. Four fifties could be considered overkill against fighters --certainly the Poles who 'filled in' with the 56th FG in late 1944 found it so--but very useful against a bomber or a ground target.

 

cheers

 

horseback

[SlipBall]

On the contrary, from my reading of various pilot memoirs, each pair of guns had its own circuit breaker and/or charger, I believe (of course, US pilots and groundcrews in the 8th AF were notorious for improvisations). You would simply turn off the desired breaker(s) or leave a given pair of guns uncharged until you needed them. Some units or individual pilots had the outer pair of guns removed early on, but the lesser weight apparently did not affect performance appreciably.

 

I've read about the tracer round method myself, but I also read that the LW caught on to its meaning fairly early in the game, so that it was generally discontinued, because some of them were less than chivalrous when they realized that their opponent was out of or almost out of ammunition...

 

Like the P-38, the P-47 was conceived primarily as a bomber killer first and a fighter killer second. Four fifties could be considered overkill against fighters --certainly the Poles who 'filled in' with the 56th FG in late 1944 found it so--but very useful against a bomber or a ground target.

 

cheers

 

horseback

 

 

Great idea they had, sadly, I doubt that we will see that in the game

[Krupi]

 

I can't wait :pilotfly:

[Mango]

Beautiful image, that is just inspiring! :D

[Weta43]

Great idea they had, sadly, I doubt that we will see that in the game

 

If it was the way it was in real life, I'd be more surprised if that's not what we get.

[Merlin-27]

If it was the way it was in real life, I'd be more surprised if that's not what we get.

 

On that note, has anyone ever resolved an issue in the P-51D by hitting the circuit breaker reset panel? Just curious. I assigned a button on my USB switch panel but I have not found a scenario to use it.

[SlipBall]

If it was the way it was in real life, I'd be more surprised if that's not what we get.

 

 

Great...I had thought DCS only goes by the blueprints and not by a field unofficial tweak by a aircraft crew

Edited December 13, 2013 by GT 5.0

[159th_Falcon]

Great...I had thought DCS only goes by the blueprints and not by a field unofficial tweak by a aircraft crew

 

Don't forget, IF they have managed to get some electrical system drawings from the weapons.

Then they can also easily find out if it was indeed possible to limit the number of guns firing by pulling Circuit Breakers.

 

Though, if this is indeed the case i would expect the following to happen.

Instead of having two key binds available in the options, only as in real life.

 

But if you decide to pull the right Circuit Breaker in flight, then only guns XYZ will fire.

 

So this way DCS is still going by the blue prints, AND we got our unofficial field tweak.

[Weta43]

Don't forget, IF they have managed to get some electrical system drawings from the weapons.

Then they can also easily find out if it was indeed possible to limit the number of guns firing by pulling Circuit Breakers.

 

Though, if this is indeed the case i would expect the following to happen.

Instead of having two key binds available in the options, only as in real life.

 

But if you decide to pull the right Circuit Breaker in flight, then only guns XYZ will fire.

 

So this way DCS is still going by the blue prints, AND we got our unofficial field tweak.

 

On history, that would be my expectation (but only on history)

If the CBs are manually pull-able in the cockpit IRL as it was manufactured - you'll probably be able to pull them.

[SlipBall]

Looks like only one circuit breaker in diagrams, it sure would save a lot of ammo though...ground crew probably rewired to separating toggle switch's