Zimmerdylan

+1 Not only that, I would pay whatever they asked for it within reason. Some planes I wait for a sale, and even then I don't purchase them if the price isn't what I think is low enough because I won't get my money's worth out of them. I know I probably wont fly them all that much. But the P-38.....Yeah, it would most likely be the plane I would use the most.

Hm......This is kind of an odd topic for me. Lots of different opinions. I cannot speak for others but thus far I find the assets pack to be somewhat of a bust. I never create a mission using any of the assets except for the German transport trucks. The armor is indestructible for the most part. I had 8 direct hits on a panzer with rockets at some point and it still showed 0 damage. I've seen the Tigers take a direct 500 lb bomb hit and still survive. I thought they had fixed this issue until the other day when I set up unlimited ammo and went after a German tank. So I just use the Russian BTR 80 instead of the German tanks. It seems much more like what a WWII era tank should be and I really don't pay much attention to the visual difference when I'm running in one one. The AA is still a non starter for me as there are no shell bursts. What's the fun in that???? I opt for the modern Russian AA because I can at least see where the rounds are coming from and going to. Trucks are trucks so far as I am concerned. The WWII German vehicles do not look so different from the modern Russian vehicles (advanced weaponry aside) that I really don't pay attention to the difference in game. To be honest, I'm suffering a little buyer's remorse over the assets pack at this point. I know that it'll get updated and eventually fixed at some point but in the world of DCS it's the when that makes me kind of sorry I purchased it. From my experience, it could take years to fix these things sometimes. I'm perfectly content to shoot at the modern targets and just imagine they're old German vehicles for now. So in my opinion, it most certainly is not a must of any kind at this time. Maybe later when it's been updated to the point of usability.

LOL........My reaction exactly.

I'm not going to offer advice, solutions, or statistics from manuals or books. What I am going to offer is validation. Yes! The Spitfire is by far the hardest plane to land in DCS. Takeoff is a draw between it and the German planes. But landing is certainly a pain in the a$$ in this plane. Having no practical experience flying any of these planes, I cannot speak to the accuracy of this issue. Speaking from everything I have read about it and from everything I have seen on these forums, it is my opinion that the Spitfire does have something that's not correct about it. But then again....every DCS plane has it's little problems here and there. Will ED ever see fit to change or correct any of them? That's something that is never clear until it happens. Some of the issues that I have had with the modules have been addressed or fixed at some point and others not. It's really just a matter of whether ED and the devs. agree with those who point these things out. Sometimes they do and it gets fixed. Sometimes they don't and we learn to deal with them. Sometimes they do and it never gets fixed. And yet others, sometimes they fix things that I never knew were wrong. Bottom line is that this is a sim. It's very much about opinion as to how real or accurate everything is. But I feel your frustration with the Spitfire. I love the plane but don't like flying it due to the landing issue.

I purchased this module a couple of weeks ago. I have not really flown it all that much because there seem to be quite a few issues with it. Maybe if I list them here some of you will be gracious enough to help me or at least offer feedback. Issue 1. Flaps don't move at all. I cannot put them up, I cannot put them down. Doesn't matter whether I assign them to my HOTAS, use the default keys or just do it in cockpit. I can start cold or in flight, doesn't matter, flaps are inoperable. Issue 2. Can't get the GPU generator to go away. The guy will respond and turn it on, but no response when I ask them to disconnect. I have to just go and let em ask me what the hell I'm doing. Issue 3. Since the last update, when I spawn into the plane, there is this clump sound that won't go away. Sounds kind of like a windshield wiper shutting off only it just continues every half a second or so. The sound gets muted when I turn everything on and close the canopy. But it never goes away. Issue 4. Plane jerks to the left whenever I try to accelerate to taxi on the ground. It's not like it pulls left (which it does actually) but this is almost as though the game lags and the plane gets reset on the ground to the left whenever I accelerate from a dead stop. My rudder pedals make no difference in this issue. I do have to hold right rudder to taxi straight which is another issue altogether. All of this happens every time I climb into the aircraft. All of these issues are continuous and seem to be very consistent. :huh: Anyone have any input or know of why these things are happening? I did a repair but nothing changed. Thanks! Oh....I forgot about the issue with the 2 different variations. I can only seem to populate one variant of the plane. I do not remember which one I can get into. I think the CC version. However I cannot get into the EB version. Or it's the other way around, I don't remember. Again....thanks!

Yeah...You see. Unprocessed carbs are not harmful to you at all. Since you are eating boiled potatoes and brown rice, you are getting all of the nutrience with the carbs and your body disposes of it correctly. Thus, your weight and functions stay stable. Stuff like french fries, and white rice has been robbed of everything but the energy(starch, carbs) through it's processing so your body treats it as though it were sugar. I would never have believed that making this change would have changed so many things in my body for the better. It says a lot about big business, human apathy, and how dangerous deception is. Just think of the burden that would be lifted from the medical industry if there were better rules and the food industry actually cared about the human side of their product. Good on you BIGNEWEY!

Wow guys.....This is pretty amazing. 3 years ago I weighed 220 lbs. I'm only 5'7" so that's kind of big. I had 3 herniated disks in my back that hurt constantly from bailing hay as a teen, I had pre arthritic conditions in both of my hands, swollen Hemeroids, and several other aging type issues. I was pretty dumbfounded as I was eating healthy (or so I thought), I exercised regularly. and I'm only 53. I thought that I was just getting old. At some point, I just got disgusted with my physical appearance. I went to talk with a doctor to see if there were anything I could do. Again, I was eating healthy, and I ran 5 miles a day. Yet I was still gaining weight. Thankfully, I found just the person who would help me and change my life completely. Long story short, 3 years later with no simple sugars, processed foods, and NO STARCH unless it's in a natural grain, I have maintained 180 lbs easily, my back is great! Very little pain. Hemeroids are completely gone. No sign of them at all. My hands and joints are pain and swelling free, and my life is so much different. The food industry is as bad as the big tobacco guys so far as I am concerned. After doing a ton of research I have learned that most of what we eat and is advertised as "healthy" isn't healthy at all. Most of it is harmful. The way it was put to me by a doctor: "Food companies make stuff.......stuff that happens to be edible. It's not "food" by any means. They have to add sugars and chemicals to it just to make it taste like food. But it's just edible stuff." And that's the truth. I thought that eating natural was a hippy fad. If it is.......call me a hippy. I learned.

That's kind of funny, and accurate IMO. Too many guys spend too much time watching the History Channel where all American designed machines are far superior to the enemy stuff. The truth was that the 109 would have easily won WWII for the Germans had they had the leadership, and trained pilots. The P-51 was not the end all of aircraft. The 109 was a very capable fighter plane. More so than the P-51 in the opinions of those who flew them. Watch this full video, it tells it like it is. Reality comes crashing in!!!!!!!

OK....Cool, thanks a lot!

Hey guys, I cannot seem to get my flaps to completely close. I try it manually using the lever in the cockpit, I use LShift+F ,LCtrl+F, and I assigned them to my HOTAS but nothing I do seems to make em move at all. Is there something that I am missing?:joystick::joystick:

Yes....I just purchased this module a few minutes ago. I'm eagerly awaiting my first flight. I have only heard good things about this plane.

I would agree.......

What????

Wow!!!Friggin insane flick!!! have a look. Great graphics and the fighting is insane.

And as we all have learned, this is a very common phenomena here. I speculate on nothing that's to be released any more. In fact.....I just forget about it until it's actually released. It's the best way to get from one release to the next. :doh:

After sifting through a bunch of photos on the internet. I see some pix of these. I never saw anything like this while I was in though. Always shoulder stock on the choppers I flew in. But at least now I know they actually exist. Thanks for pointing it out to me guys.

OK......I have flown in many a Huey in my day. Back in the early 1980's I probably flew 2 times a week, or at the very least, once every couple of weeks. But that was over 30 years ago. But in all those years, I never remembered an M-60 that had handles and a lever. It's kind of like our Huey has a bastardized door gun that's half Browning .50 cal. and half M-60. I just wish it had the punch of the .50....... This has always been something that I noticed but never thought to ask about until just now. Is the DCS M-60 like this because it would be much more complicated to model the gunner in the shoulder posture? Just curious. :dunno:

I could go to another popular flight sim that I own and have a simplified P-47. Yet I don't. SO my answer would have to be yes. Having already purchased the simpler P-51, Spitfire, and ME109 from another sim company, I don't think I would be apt to want to own another. No matter who made it. Sorry.......just bores me to tears. :joystick:

The urban areas like downtown Las Vegas, Parump, and the other towns are generic and as was stated by Sith, many major landmarks aside, it's just generic flight sim type scenery. Although the new Vegas Strip is there, the older areas like Freemont Street (Where all the old rat pack flicks were filmed) is not there. But all in all, it's probably the best rendition of Vegas I have seen in a flight sim. I purchased a Vegas map from another sim and god I hate to even go there after flying the DCS map. I just flew into and out of Vegas (the real Vegas) last week as I do pretty regularly and I happened to notice some of the smaller populated areas that DCS seems to have managed to place in there pretty nicely. The desert areas look really good and pretty much like a desert looks from 10,000 feet and above. And as a whole (especially when set to late day) the desert makes the map IMO. All in all I really enjoy the Vegas map and since I don't spend tons of time looking for flaws in it as I know it can never be perfect, I find it quite easy to imagine that I'm flying over Vegas. And as another poster said, the closer you get, the less believable it is. But that's just flight sims in general. The only thing I kind of notice and that bugs me once in a while is the silly names they have for the casinos, and the lack of realistic show ads around town. It can really bug me once in a while. When I and others asked about this issue in the very beginning, ED just sighted copyright issues. And they also made it clear after being badgered by nitpickers over a time that this is just an imaginary rendition of Vegas and not actually Las Vegas. So I'm guessing it's kind of a touchy subject with ED. To our defense, in all of the other versions of Vegas for sims that I have, all of the names are accurate and the signage is also pretty darn close. So I fail to understand ED's reasoning. But It's really not that big of a deal any more. I enjoy it because it's a very nice, well detailed map.

Very cool.....Thanks!!!

Really? I own several of those simplified Flaming Cliffs planes and I just don't enjoy them. I have flown the F-15 only a handful of times and the SU-25 I have flown only once in 7 or 8 years. They just don't do it for me. I don't even have any controls mapped to any of them because I never touch em. I also kind of feel that the WWII planes are so simple to begin with that there isn't all that much to simplify. I don't think that the flight models are any different in the Flaming Cliffs planes so if this is the case, the actual flying of the WWII planes is the only really challenging part of flying them. Since the flight model would be the same. It seems kind of silly to just simplify the easiest part of the WWII modules. And......like another poster here. I have IL-2,and Rise of flight. I find them to be boring and I only fly them when I'm more or less just joking around. I never take either seriously. And I certainly never invest any money in any of their AC. I cannot imagine that I would purchase any simplified AC from DCS either. I wouldn't matter how much I like them. I've gotten to the point where I only purchase planes or modules that I would actually be interested in flying. Just My opinion but I can't see any good reason behind it.

I'm going to use some fake words to describe this thread. I have never seen a deader horse beaten harder or more deader. Guys this is thread # one million, six hundred trillion about the under powered Mustang. We all get it. we got it at thread number one thousand three. The rest were all just carbon copy dribble. It is quite obvious that this issue isn't going to change. My god.............A dead horse is a dead horse.

Ahhh yes! The first time flying the Mustang! I remember it well, and I remember thinking exactly what the OP must be thinking right now. I cannot really add much to the advice already offered to you, but I can offer you comfort in the fact that you are not the only one to ever suffer this feeling. When I started flying the P-51, I was banned from the forums due to my attitude toward it and DCS at that point. After study, practice, and a lot of broken planes, I realized that most of the issue was that I was expecting DCS planes to fly like XPlanes. That just isn't gonna happen here. The truth is that DCS has the flight model pretty accurately done and most other sims do not. You just have to get use to the flight model and learn to understand it's rules. I have had real world pilots sit with me and watch me fly this sim. They were all pretty impressed at the accuracy of DCS. Although I have to be honest and confess that I have never had a P-51 pilot sit with me, I have had 2 A-10 pilots, a Hawk pilot, 2 Huey pilots, and 2 guys who flew with P-51 pilots and were pilots themselves. If you can't trust that much experience then who can you trust? When I first flew the P-51 in DCS I could barely keep it steady and level because I expected the flight model that I had flown in the other sims that let me pretty much do whatever I wanted within reason. When I started the DCS P-51 I could not for the life of me do much more than fly the damn thing. Now I fly air to air combat and win against AI and other players 2/3 rds of the time. Just hang out on the forums, practice, learn the plane, and give it time. You'll be an ace in no time. I do have a question for the OP though. You say that the P-51 is impossible to fly. But many people cannot even get the 109, or the Spitfire off the ground much less fly them in the beginning. I'm finding it pretty astounding that you are having a hard time with the P-51 as it's the easiest of the WWII modules to deal with, yet the harder planes aren't an issue for you. Maybe I'm crazy but I fly all 4 of them regularly and the P-51 is the easiest by far.

However.......You can still beat it. Start out fighting it with less than 50% fuel in your Mustang, put the AI skill level at it's lowest, load it up with full fuel, and start with the Dora (was easiest for me anyway). You will still lose several of the battles but will start to feel the edge you have gained. After a short time, the difference in your and the AI's performance through changing settings will start to be apparent. This will give you time during the fights to realize your turning radius, stall speeds, and general abilities as a whole. When you are fighting the AI at it's full capabilities, it gives you absolutely no chance to do anything but run like he!!. Beginners need to be challenged, not beaten to death. As you keep fighting the AI with these settings, you will start winning more than losing. And then you can start to fiddle with the degree of skill the AI has. It takes some time but it works. I started out by getting killed 9 out of 10 fights. I now regularly beat AI aircraft 3/4 of the time. I don't really dogfight much and still have advanced that far.

Yeah.....I can feel the acidy bile forming in the back of my throat every time it gets mentioned.........