NineLine

Self-fulfilling prophecy ... should be checking this out today

Guys, we are not going to play back and forth with people chatting all over the internet. When there is real news to share we will. Until then all we have is in the first post. Thanks.

Yes, we want people to like DCS and indirectly ED and it's 3rd Parties. So we do what we can to influence people to enjoy DCS and get into the sim. What we don't want to do is to influence anyone to take our side over anyone else, because at some point we will have to try to go back to normal, and trashing or making people pick our side is not going to make getting back to normal an easy thing. Enough damage has already been done, we don't need to add to it to start a he said/he said social media battle.

The first one has to be solved before the second one can be worked on. DCS and ED are healthy right now, and sure this has impacted things and it will need a lot of work once it's solved to move forward, but all our other 3rd Parties and ED are doing well. I don't think anything we do right now in a public sense would be healthy for anyone. Silence is currently the best bet for right now, and later down the road depending on how it all shakes out we can see what we need to do then. But we don't need to "influence cheerleaders", to me that is a bad look.

The legal dispute is between ED and RAZBAM, the court is not the court of public opinion or I should say, the court of public opinion will not solve this. We understand that we are not taking part in the public back and forth and we know what it looks like to some, but it's not professional or helpful to the legal process and in fact, as you stated, it would just sow more angst and anger than there already is. We stand behind everything we have said already, but will not be saying anything else until there is some form of resolution, one way or the other.

Once again you are falling into the same trap, we are not going to go into details because it's a legal manner, some people are jumping on that and saying it's not valid. You can choose to believe that, but please do not come here and try and champion for people to sway one way or the other. The announcements are as deep as we can go now based on the nuances of how legal disagreements are handled. Just because we can't or won't talk about it doesn't mean there is not more to it.

We simply cannot share any more than we have, we know it makes it tough but that is where we are at right now. When things dip into the legal realm, you do not try and use social media to win your case. It's really that simple. No, I do not agree, they are handling this as professionally and correctly as possible now that this is a legal matter. The court of public opinion will not solve anything, in fact it might make it worse in some cases, we choose to move forward as we have and hope for the best outcome possible.

Ok all, the second purge has come, as before you can find all the posts right here. Nothing has been removed that was here before: So there is nothing new and exciting to share. I/We really wish there was but the same things are going on right now. Management teams are talking with each other, its a legal manner and it's going as slow as it can be expected when you are talking with each other through others. No matter how you slice it, it's not a great situation. I also noticed that because me and BIGNEWY are trying to manage and maintain this thread we are taking some heat, suggesting we are ignorant, gaslighting, trying to steer the narrative, etc. If you feel this way or one I haven't mentioned, I, on behalf of myself and BN apologize. Our intention is only to point out that the only thing official is in this first post. We both understand there is more to it, but the details around different discord and websites don't show the full picture. So we are not trying to force you not to look, but as you consider everything before making snap judgements. This is not meant to be a pity party for me and BN either, this situation sucks and I am sure because we work with ED that venting on us is all you have. I just wanted to try and clarify a little more. If we could share more details we would, but right now it would not be professional or helpful. Another reason for the purge is the fighting here as well, at the end of the day we should all be here for a stronger and better DCS, getting this solved with the least amount of pain should be everyone's goal, and I believe it is. Fighting with each other, and hating on ED or RAZBAM, will just make whatever happens at the end of this much harder to comeback from. So consider that even if the person on the other side of the screen believes something different, they are just here to fly cool planes and enjoy DCS and all its partners. So once again I open this up to all of you. While I am not forcing you to look away from other sources, we will not be discussing them here. Our focus is on the professional resolution of the current issues, doing it on reddit, Disord or these forums is not the path ED has chosen to take. So sharing private DMs, or random unrelated financial reports is still not up for discussion. Frustrated user, SME, or ex-dev comments are not up for debate. Only the official public declarations that have been shared by both teams are to be discussed, and those have all been shared in the first post. Most importantly, be kind to each other. If you need to vent on me or BN, that is fine, send us a DM, and tell us what we are doing to frustrate you. Understand we are trying to do our best in a really terrible situation. Thanks all. NineLine/Norm

DCS: CH-47F Taxi and Takeoff (COMING SOON)

I think it's simply because the team is focused on more important systems and features right now, having a deeper system experience would be fun for many, I think combat systems and such are leading in priority right now.

I know we have talked about localized weather, how or what that would look like I am unsure right now.

The pages are present. We may add further functionality, later after early access, but a very low priority and not in current planning. Thanks

2 & 4 are reported already, I will look at the rest soon.

This already happens. On the other things, we are currently working on fog layers once that is complete we will see what the team has in store next for weather.

I am seeing formations having issues as well, I have reported both. Thanks!

Our test team are volunteers so they are customers the same as you. They deserve to be treated with respect as do you. If they ask for a track it's because they are required to. 90% of the time it's better to get a track from the person experiencing the issue. The other 10% of the time it's still better to get a track from the person with the issue. At the end of the day, our team is instructing and requiring them to get the track from you. I am aware there are issues with some training missions and we are looking into it, regardless, please give constructive and mature feedback, if you are feeling frustrated step back from the computer for a break, as well see my signature below for a link on how to properly report bugs. Thanks. Posts are hidden by ED Team, they are hidden based on the forum rules clearly shared at the top of the forums. If you have questions about how a post was removed, please send a DM to me or BIGNEWY. Last thing, this is not a bug thread, if you have a bug you need to create a thread in the appropriate section with the appropriate info. I am closing this thread now. If you have an issue please post a new thread.

So I replied late last night I should expand. The mission is set up to have 4 groups form up from 2 different airfields. 1 Group has you as a pilot, so these groups are set up to follow one lead unit which is all AI. In that time, travel to waypoint 1 is 29nm away at 12000 feet. The distance to 20,000 feet can be done in 10 minutes roughly at normal power. But the mission is asking for a distance of 10 minutes, to nearly half that altitude, limited to a set speed which I feel is slower for the rate of climb they are expected, and again asking 3 AI groups and 1 Player group to form up before this. COnsider the AI in the formation, if the lead is set to a set speed, the other AI in that group may have to slow or speed up to maintain, if its very restrictive (and in this case slower than it needs to be) the AI will struggle to maintain. The AI is AI, an all-player-controlled group could think about this, form up and then climb, but the AI is being told to do it all at once. It would make more sense to set up a more up WP after take off, then allow a proper climb speed either for the requested altitude, I feel that 12000 feet, could be a little faster. In WWII missions I usually set up an orbit to allow some sort of time to allow all aircraft to get airborne and then form up somewhat. You can set an orbit until a set time or condition. Once this is met, then sending them on their way ends up working better.

Is this your mission if I may ask? The reason why I ask is that from take-off to WP1 the speed is set to 157kn, this is much too slow so you have the AI trying to fly slower than expected, but also keep up with their own formation, and then follow others. The AI will 'cheat' a little to hold formation, but it looks and feels worse when they are flying outside normal limits. Try increasing the speed to WP1. I suggest increasing this to achieve the altitude you have set at WP.

Hey thanks all, I am on station now. I will digest this and see if I can see what is going on.

Just an update, I am waiting on an answer from the AI guys on this to see if it was intended or not. The current solution to this right now is to add another AI push to change RTB on Bingo fuel to 'AAR REFUEL or RTB' and I think keep the 'Refueling' AI push to make sure the AI doesn't RTB. Right now "No RTB on Bingo" is setting refuel from any source to 'off' so the AI will not attempt to refuel anywhere. This being 'off' you need to turn it on when you want the AI to refuel and at a time you want them to. "AAR REFUEL or RTB" turns the refuelling back 'on' and they will refuel from the closest source, having 'Refueling' there ensures they will head to the tanker.

I'll look into the fuzing issues, but the manual is not something we would do.

This is correct, and this is why we are offering a small form of a refund on the F-15E, the others are out of EA, considered feature complete by RAZBAM and we plan to make sure they continue to work on DCS no matter what happens. The SA Map is still in active development despite the disagreement.

Just checked, already reported, thanks!

Thanks I will pass along to the team soon.

When we have news we will let you know, nothing has changed, it's being worked on. It's a legal manner so that will complicate and slow things down. Accusing either side of stealing or wrong doing will not speed up the resolution. Thanks. Apparently, there is much more to it than this. Please note above, try and keep it somewhat constructive if not possible right now, it's probably best to leave this thread until there is more news. I know others are winding people up at various locations around the internet, but really there is nothing to be done until a solution is found.